Well done Ed Miliband for speaking out about the Daily Mail's article on his father

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The Daily Mail used a low tactic of accusing Ed miliband's father of hating Britain.

I think it was a nasty thing to do. Just because someone is a Marxist and may criticise some aspects of the country or its instiutions does not mean that they hate Britain.

A coalition, you mean?

We don't like coalitions in this country, remember? We were offered the option and voted "no", even though it works in Germany, that well-known unstable and unproductive and poor country .

Sigh.

Hah, yes! A specialist coalition, with all the grown-ups in it
I sort of vaguely think we may have done this once before, in a national emergency? My brain's gone on strike and I'm going to take a break, though, so will bow to greater knowledge.

Good point about Germany.

God, I would vote for a specialist coalition.

Grown ups. No shouting at PMQs and smug in jokes that no one cares about but their mates. No 'everything is the fault of this government/everything is repairing the damage of the last government'. Just grown ups.

Just seen this do the rounds on FB.

Basically it's a photo of Lord Rothermore (founder of Daily Mail) cosying up to Hitler. Not only that, apparently he sent the Fuhrer a telegram saying:

"My Dear Führer, I have watched with understanding and interest the progress of your great and superhuman work in regenerating your country."

"The British people, now like Germany strongly rearmed, regard the German people with admiration as valorous adversaries in the past, but I am sure that there is no problem between our two countries which cannot be settled by consultation and negotiation…I have always thought that you are essentially one who hates war and desires peace."

Well based on the DM's recent reporting of Ed's father I guess we should now infer that the Daily Mail is in fact a mouthpiece for the Nazi's.

Or is that somehow a bit out of order?

On that basis we could say the same for the Mirror, which supported Mosley and the Blackshirts.

www.annaraccoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/independent-fascist-past-daily-mirror-chris-corrie.jpg

So now that the Mirror and Mail are both mouthpieces for the Nazis and the Guardian and Independent are both mouthpieces for the Communists, is everyone happy?

We had a National Government i.e. a Coalition through much of the 30s I believe. And during WWII of course.

It worked before. It could work again.

Now let's decide who would be in it :o

I love Ally Ross, he writes this week " of all the many bad tv sights at Labours conference, the weirdest was Ed MIlliband and Ed Balls telling jokes about David Cameron's beachwear to Hacked offs Steve Coogan and his fellow flat earthers.
Weird because these gags were based on paparazzi shots taken and used without the Cameron's permission and exactly the sort of privacy invasion the comrades claim to despise.
Truth is of course, labour have no problem invading people's privacy, if it belongs to their enemies.
It's not a moral crusade they are running its a political one.
Double standards, labour are just so good at it.

hester you've got me thinking about that now!

So far I vote for Theresa May shes consistent and hardworking, Ken Clarke, Charles Kennedy if he could stay on the wagon and part of me says Nigel Farage just because I love a bit of a loose cannon

Oh and definitely Ann Cryer if she would come out of retirement

Paddy Ashdown for Defence
Vince Cable for Chancellor

TheHammaconda

Paddy Ashdown for Defence
Vince Cable for Chancellor

You'd like a man who doesn't know the difference between deficit and debt to run the country's economy? Jinkies.

"I think if Ed uses an opportunity to quote his father he shouldnt really be surprised that his opposition looks at some of the other things his father has said."
This is the heart of it, for me. Using quote from Ralph is fine. Attacks are fine. But it's just obviously wrong and moronic to use quotes from a 17 year old's private diary, especially when that person became an emonent academic who wrote reams of material later that you could pick through to find your evidence to support your assertions. It is completely absurd and speaks of a mindset utterly twisted by rage against the left.

"Labour seem to have no issues bringing up the Conservatives background at every opportunity." As it goes, there's remarkably little of this, considering the rich pickings. We are talking about a Chancellor whose family fortune is substantially untaxed due to trusts, for example.

I like all the analysis of the DM gameplay. Usually it's just me

I didn't see Ed speaking out about all the lefties wanting to 'dance on Thatchers grave' - Hmm.

The Daily Mail have reported on a story they believe is in the public interest. That's what newspapers do.

It's not a "story" ffs! It doesn't contain news! It's a vindictive character assassination, which cherry picks the diary writing of a 17 year old kid.

for anybody who thinks the Mail were "reporting a story" & justified in what they said

\link{http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/02/thatcher-ally-daily-mail-ralph-miliband-lies\this piece from one of Thatcher's cabinet members} makes interesting reading

\link{http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/oct/01/daily-mail-distorted-book-ralph-miliband\also this}

Well it was news to me.

Interesting piece from Thatcher's friend Lord Moore, TheOne, thanks for linking.

Not read the thread yet, but I did see Alistair Cambell rip the deputy editor o f the DM a new one on newsnight. That was good.

Flatpack you mean like George Osborne?

Seriously though, where has Cable got that wrong? He's got a PhD in Economics, I've never seen or heard him get it wrong (unlike Cameron and Osborne).

You'd like a man who doesn't know the difference between deficit and debt to run the country's economy?

As opposed to Gidiot, whose only job outside politics was as a towel folder?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

For the record flatpack, before you derail by asking whether I've lived under a Stalinist regime, I believe in capitalism, just not the system you defend, which is capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich. Taking money from the poor to pay for the mistakes of the bankers is not capitalism, it's theft.

I think it was Stanley Druckenmiller who, two weeks ago, said "this is the biggest transfer of wealth from the middle classes and the poor to the rich ever. Am I in favour of it? Of course. I had a very good day yesterday".

That's the type of thief your beloved neoliberal wankers are being bankrolled by flatpack. They're stealing from us all, to benefit themselves. Unless we take control back we are fucked.

I wish Ralph Miliband was still alive, he sounds like a Top Bloke to be honest.

NicholasTeakosy I share your righteous anger
I am so so sorry that people cannot see that this is happening. When it is completely fucking obvious and they will be next.