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WildThongIWannaKnowForSure · 15/04/2013 20:27

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-22157968

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Alibabaandthe40nappies · 17/04/2013 16:59

HeySoul - so why has the father changed his story? I'm not saying that she didn't do it, just that it is in all likelihood not as 'straightforward' as it initially appears.

MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel · 17/04/2013 17:06

What isn't adding up, or isn't right?

We can't expect to be told every detail about another families tragedy.

Can you imagine losing a child and having people gossiping about your involvement in that childs death? I can, I've been there and its fucking hideous.

Until he is implicated by the police, who are the ones with the full facts, I think speculation and talk of 'feelings' and 'instincts' that he is in some way involved are just nasty and do nothing but prove that the people who see fit to broadcast their thoughts on a public forum are pretty bloody heartless.

HeySoulSister · 17/04/2013 17:20

ali

your in receipt of full facts from the police? youve read his 2 statements

ObiWankenYoni · 17/04/2013 17:58

There's no need to be nasty to each other.

There's enough sadness in this world, without inflicting on each other here.

I understand the passion cases like this bring out in people, but please. A little respect for each other isn't hard.

Peace and love

Maggysinge · 17/04/2013 18:26

The hypocrisy here is just astounding! A woman has murdered her children and all of a sudden it's oh she must be ill, abused etc and that it doesn't feel right, he must be dodgy etcbut if it was a man I guarantee that you would be calling him a murdering bastard and no sympathy whatsoever.

MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel · 17/04/2013 18:38

Showing a little respect for the man who has just lost 4 children isn't hard either Obi.

I didn't see much 'peace and love' for him in your pp.

everlong · 17/04/2013 18:40

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HeySoulSister · 17/04/2013 18:53

maggy

bloody well said!!! this woman made a choice!!

duchesse · 17/04/2013 20:55

I'm thinking that what's quite possible is that she did indeed attack him at their home, and that he went for treatment at hospital and reported that he'd been attacked in the street by a randomer in order to avoid getting her into trouble. Hence the "false" report.

2old2beamum · 17/04/2013 21:03

Please don't judge until you have walked in her shoes.
I feel so sad where was her support? Her midwife Sad? she was not much more than a child herself!!!

Darkesteyes · 17/04/2013 21:39

The Mail have mysogynistic form for this. There was a case of family annihalation last year commited by the father.
But the Mail trawled the mothers facebook posts to see how he could have been "driven to it"
I clearly remember discussing it on the Feminism boards at the time.

everlong · 17/04/2013 21:51

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HeySoulSister · 17/04/2013 23:59

Yeah she did. How do we know she didn't have support? 'Support' does not prevent someone murdering others

ThatVikRinA22 · 18/04/2013 00:06

im afraid i judge anyone - man or woman - who can kill their children.

gender is irrelevant.

to be in the frame of mind to kill your own children - be you a male or female - i would say you have some kind of mental impairment and are in a desperate situation.

it is desperately sad.

Darkesteyes · 18/04/2013 01:09

The case i mentioned earlier there were certain people scrabbling around trying to find a way to blame the mother when in the other case it was the father who killed them.
All i meant was that you cant go by what you read in the Mail.

CautionaryWhale · 18/04/2013 07:38

Complete double standards here
The reaction so such events should be consistent irrespective of gender
but never is.
As I am 7 months pregnant with two other children and have a history of depression I can understand her desperation but cannot excuse her actions. They were pre-meditated and the police let those kids down badly.

CautionaryWhale · 18/04/2013 07:39

to not so

HeySoulSister · 18/04/2013 09:42

How did the police let them down??

ThatVikRinA22 · 18/04/2013 15:09

here we go again then - blame everyone but the person responsible.

clearly i need to put a request in for the standard issue of crystal balls along with pava and batons.

handcream · 18/04/2013 15:39

I have to say I agree with a number of other posters. Why are we looking to blame everyone else, 'she was let down by the police, social services, even her ex boyfriend'

She potentially killed her children in cold blood. She was so young to have so many children.

Are we now going to say that everyone who murders someone else is depressed, on the edge or driven to it.

MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel · 18/04/2013 16:10

Yes thats right, it was the police officers fault, totally.

Clearly what they should have done, without evidence, or a statement, or any reason whatsoever was arrest the mother. Shame on them for not arreseting a heavily pregnant woman in charge of 3 small children in the early hours of the morning for nothing.

There was only one person who let those children down, and thats the only person who a lot of people don't want to blame for some reason.

Thewhingingdefective · 19/04/2013 13:26

Hand cream, no of course people have different motives to kill, bt in cases like this there must be a cause that could possibly have been avoided.

Is it so terrible to wonder if this young woman was so disturbed or depressed that she really couldn't cope? Having so many children in such a short space of time and at a young age herself clearly messed her up somehow.

It's tragic. I cannot imagine what state her mind was in when she took her children's lives. The poor father now has to live with this nightmare. Really sad stuff.

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