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Vicky Pryce is guilty

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UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea · 07/03/2013 15:05

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edam · 07/03/2013 22:01

It seems particularly unfair that she had to go through two trials because at least one member of the original jury was a thicko. (I read the jury's questions to the judge in the original trial as a coded message reading 'we are all really frustrated with one dimwit who thinks they can reach a decision based on stuff that is completely irrelevant and nothing to do with the case, please tell them where to get off'.)

EchoBitch · 07/03/2013 22:04

If she goes to prison he should get double the sentence.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 07/03/2013 22:04

she made no allegation of violence against him. As for the rest of it, she failed to convince the jury, who were there and heard the evidence; the rest is speculation and her own self-serving version of events.
it is clear that when it suited her she was willing to turn the events against him and implicate a wholly innocent third party. In those circs I'm not surprised the jury refused to accept that she had been intimidated into her role.

UdderlyBanal · 07/03/2013 22:04

She had two/three children from her first marriage to Mr Pryce, didn't she? A marriage she left because she was having an affair with the rich glamorous, ambitious, successful Mr Huhne. She was already pretty successful. I guess they fed off each other's ambitions. They used to host great salons and really fancy themselves as a leading thinking couple.

He may well have bullied her into taking his points but she did do it. And for a highly intelligent, incredibly well educated person to be so stupid as not to know that this was illegal is completely unbelievable. Yes, he may have been a bully towards her, quite possible. He is an arrogant fucker. But for heaven's sake, she loved his arrogance before they fell out.

After the relationship fell apart she was manipulative, arrogant and slippery. I thought trying to put the blame on a young aide, who had to get PCC protection, was despicable. Any shred of respect or sympathy I had for her disappeared then.

I am sure she was very, very hurt by agreeing to have an abortion. But you don't throw all this stuff about in public when you have children. She has caused all this despair and horror in her family. My mother had a very bad time in her first marriage. But as my siblings have a good relationship with our father, she is able to share her pain only with me. To share it with my siblings, even privately, would cause them enormous pain. So she doesn't do it.

Yes, Huhne was, is, a shit. And he left his wife in a truly unpleasant manner. But he did not set up the train of events which has led to them going to prison. She has.

I agree with what has been said about Carina Trimmingham. You spend your life selling shit - hardly surprising when it comes back to bite you.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 07/03/2013 22:06

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Dromedary · 07/03/2013 22:06

bisjo - Huhne supposedly pressurised her into having one abortion, and she later became pregnant again and he pressurised her again, but she went ahead with the pregnancy and had her younger son.
Karlos - taking somebody else's points may be a criminal offence (but there are very many more serious ones). But many wives would more readily agree to do that than to terminate the life of a baby they want to give birth to and bring up.

edam · 07/03/2013 22:08

Karlos - seriously, read the notes the original jury sent to the judge. Clearly there was at least one person a few sandwiches short of the full picnic. Bizarre questions that indicated at least one member didn't even begin to have a clue but thought they could reach a verdict on imagination and prejudice.

flippinada · 07/03/2013 22:10

I'm sure there was a thread on here some time ago where a woman was debating whether she should take her husband's points on to her licence because otherwise he'd get banned. Pretty sure the consensus was ffs don't do it! Whether she went ahead I don't know.

Quite sure it wasn't VP - wrong timescale.

EchoBitch · 07/03/2013 22:10

I believe he did pressure her.

She shouldn't have done it but it's really not a hanging offence.

He's the elected MP,not her.

He was the one convicted of driving while using his mobile phone only 16 days after the speeding offence.

His arrogance led to all this.

His lies.

Yes,she colluded but who wouldn't if their husband's job was on the line.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 07/03/2013 22:11

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edam · 07/03/2013 22:11

see here Questions like: 'Can a juror come to a verdict based on a reason that was not presented in court and has no facts or evidence to support it either from the prosecution or defence?' from people who have sat on a jury and been given clear instructions by the judge are amazingly daft. Presumably there were some sensible people on the jury who were driven mad by some idiot/s who just didn't get it at all.

edam · 07/03/2013 22:14

Hey Karlos, I've been perfectly civil to you. We can are each entitled to form different opinions of the justice or otherwise of the finding in this case - there's no need for you to make a personal attack.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 07/03/2013 22:15

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Bessie123 · 07/03/2013 22:21

edam I agree with you - there were some full on dumbass questions

LineRunner · 07/03/2013 22:24

UdderlyBanal very insightful.

LineRunner · 07/03/2013 22:25

KarlosKKrinkelbeim Thu 07-Mar-13 22:15:18
"Maybe they weren't given clear instructions."

But they were.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 07/03/2013 22:30

I've done plenty of jury trials.
Most jurors don;t understand the difference between speculation and inference. maybe that makes them "thickos"; it's not a judgement I'm in the habit of making about people I don't know. I'm not that sort of person, thankfully. But it's a difficulty they share with 99.9% of the posting population here, I'd have to say.

Xenia · 07/03/2013 22:35

One survey found 300,.000 people had taken points for others in the last 10 years and over 50% did not even realise it was illegal. Hopefully now a lot more do know.

She was naive to get involved with the press.

However let her not be defamed. I believe she met Huhne only a year after her first marriage was over.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/07/chris-huhnes-marriage-to-vicky-pryce_n_2828544.html?utm_hp_ref=uk?ncid=GEP

It is he who cheated on her and he who deserves what he gets for doing it particularly as she put a lot of career things on hold to help his career and he was not around much. I cannot see why he could be attractive to her at all. She could do a lot better than him.

LineRunner · 07/03/2013 22:45

KarlosKKrinkelbeim Thu 07-Mar-13 22:30:48
"I've done plenty of jury trials."

Gosh. Go you.

girliefriend · 07/03/2013 22:48

I feel like I am missing something here Confused I understand what they did was stupid and dishonest, do they need to go to prison though? Are they a danger to society?!

It does seem a bit ott.

And to put it in perspective a man locally who admitted to murder and took the police to where he had buried the body will not even go to trial because of a technicality that happened when he was arrested!!

The legal system seems to have gone a bit mad.

KatieMiddleton · 07/03/2013 22:49

Confused I really can't see what Edam posted that has deserved such unpleasant attention from Karlos. Edam's even cited sources.

Would it be a personal attack to call someone a hypocrite? Just out of interest Wink

duchesse · 07/03/2013 22:51

Karlos, no, no you haven't. You can't be called to be a juror more than once every two years and with about 40 million people eligible to be called you'd better be buying lottery tickets as well if you're lucky enough to be called up more than once in a lifetime.

duchesse · 07/03/2013 22:52

I'm beginning to wonder if we don't have CH himself in our midst, I have to say.

edam · 07/03/2013 22:57

Thanks Katie. Am a bit taken aback, tbh.

LineRunner · 07/03/2013 23:01

Maybe Karlos is a regular defendant? Who knows.