another of cod's parpy artricle s - this time...about sweets

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i think i have done you proud my friends
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midget gems are little sweets aren't they? little jelly sweets

oh no, midget gems.... chewy

iced gems are soooo over

"the only bad thing about sugar is it makes your teeth rot. "

erm, no, eating a diet high in refined sugar increases the risk of various cancers, heart disease, diabetes, and that's just off the top of my head. I may not know my branded confectionary but I do know that

I act for Tate and Lyle and find many of the comments on this thread offensive

Reminds me of a mother I know who, if her kids are given a sweet at school (for someone's birthday), makes them put it in a jar at home and only lets them have one once in a blue moon. She doesn't even let them have sweets on their own birthdays, sends in home baking for the classmates (which I'm sure is delicious but...)

There was an article somewhere a few months ago, giving the opposing viewpoint, extolling the joys of going to a sweetshop as a child, which was quite refreshing.

I KNOW Franny I am just teasing tho the phrase "fish in a barrel" comes to mind
eating a diet high in these things is not the same as sometimes eating them
or indeed having, say, two sweets a week
moderation, like olive says

Dh taught in a rough part of town for a while. whislt waiting for fish and chip one night her heard a young mum complaining that " she's fine with them chocolate buttons but I can't get her to take a mars bar." Friend asked how old baby was. "12 weeks" came the answer.
all things in moderation, but can't you equate certain sweets with special times in your childhood? No one would want their child to have to assocaite pleasant times with ... medjool dates fgs. BTw don't raisins cause a lot of tooth decay cos they leave some sort of residue on the teeth?

Dh taught in a rough part of town for a while. whislt waiting for fish and chip one night her heard a young mum complaining that " she's fine with them chocolate buttons but I can't get her to take a mars bar." Friend asked how old baby was. "12 weeks" came the answer.
all things in moderation, but can't you equate certain sweets with special times in your childhood? No one would want their child to have to assocaite pleasant times with ... medjool dates fgs. BTw don't raisins cause a lot of tooth decay cos they leave some sort of residue on the teeth?

Dh taught in a rough part of town for a while. whislt waiting for fish and chip one night her heard a young mum complaining that " she's fine with them chocolate buttons but I can't get her to take a mars bar." Friend asked how old baby was. "12 weeks" came the answer.
all things in moderation, but can't you equate certain sweets with special times in your childhood? No one would want their child to have to assocaite pleasant times with ... medjool dates fgs. BTw don't raisins cause a lot of tooth decay cos they leave some sort of residue on the teeth?

Dh taught in a rough part of town for a while. whislt waiting for fish and chip one night her heard a young mum complaining that " she's fine with them chocolate buttons but I can't get her to take a mars bar." Friend asked how old baby was. "12 weeks" came the answer.
all things in moderation, but can't you equate certain sweets with special times in your childhood? No one would want their child to have to assocaite pleasant times with ... medjool dates fgs. BTw don't raisins cause a lot of tooth decay cos they leave some sort of residue on the teeth?

oops, perhaps the 8 bars of dairy milk I had on the way home from school affected my mouse finger.

She usually writes good stuff about how Food Is Nice; I reckon she's a bit pushed for time, and hasn't arranged proper childcare and is banging this out to deadline, frankly.

go on then, someone show me the research linking moderate sugar intake to health risks
not by "Dr" Gillian McKeith or anyone who has purchased their qualifications from a bloke in the pub

Yes, I know this is supposed to be a thread for slagging off the writer, and boy, does she deserve it, but I am intrigued by this notion that too much sugar makes kids go bonkers. Is this a fact? My father is a pediatrician and thinks this is bollocks.

My kids have a fair amount of sugar ( shoot me now) and I have never noticed any difference in their behaviour.

I beleive it is no longer considered that sugar is worse than other refined carbohydrates in relation to diabetes..once you have it or beforehand...

ie eating sugar doesn't lead to diabetes

but if you eat glucose, doesnt that give you an energy rush, and we all know what an energy rush in a 2 year old sounds like....I thought that was what she was talking about.

well spotted cod!
I dont get the logic of preaching against sugar, and then admitting that she is adding stuff like carrots to sweeten food. Er, they taste sweet cos they contain sugar dont they?

it does come across as a bit muesli belt, but the woman's got a book to promote after all, lets be charitable.

she did an article slagging off low fat cheese once which I read going 'yes...yep...YES!'.

Low fat cheese is the work of the devil imo so she is well up in my estimation.

Low fat cheese v haribo's = no contest.

"I know some children react badly to additives etc, But do any of your act bonkers after a bit of chocolate? I mean I have never ever noticed this in my children, they have McD's, Fruit Shoots, Crisps, sweets, chocolate etc and I have never noticed a reaction."

The DDs (3 and 5) do. A couple of pieces of chocolate or a handful of Smarties fine, but if they eat a lot of sugar they go completely bananas. Particularly DD2 (she weighs close to zero so I guess it has a greater proportional effect). It's almost like they are inebriated: they laugh like drains, run around like lunatics, find everything inappropriately funny and generally lose their inhibitions (if there was a handy photo-copier they would definitely be copying their bottoms). There was one memorable evening when I let them eat a Chuppa Chippa lolly (present from a well-meaning friend) just before bed-time. I virtually had to sedate them to get their pyjamas on. It hasn't stopped us giving them sweets, quite frequently in fact, but I tend to limit the quantities and definitely not before bed-time.

By the way, the effect wears off after an hour and, provided we're not trying to do anything, it's actually quite amusing. Bad parents.

I remember that Jane Clark / Nigel Slater food diary.
He said 'even I know that champagne is not a balanced meal' and he ate a whole box of Mr Kipling cakes!

I love N Slater.

Do you know, I read the thread without reading the article and I had guessed it was by JC after the first 20 or so posts. I quite like her articles too, but only when she isn't writing about children, when she becomes totally sanctimonious.

Harpsi, just for you, here is the abstract of the only paper in the whole of Pubmed that relates to sugar intake and IQ:

Br J Nutr. 1994 Jun;71(6):897-918. Related Articles, Links

Dietary intake and micronutrient status of adolescents: effect of vitamin and trace element supplementation on indices of status and performance in tests of verbal and non-verbal intelligence.

Southon S, Wright AJ, Finglas PM, Bailey AL, Loughridge JM, Walker AD.

Institute of Food Research, Norwich Laboratory, Norwich Research Park, Colney.

Relationships between micronutrient intake and status, and micronutrient status and performance in tests of intelligence were investigated in a group of adolescents (13-14 years old). Dietary intakes were assessed using a 7 d weighed dietary record method, coupled with the collection of duplicate diets. Vitamin and trace mineral intakes calculated using food composition tables were compared with those obtained by direct analysis of duplicate diets. Micronutrient status was judged via a range of biochemical indices measured in blood samples taken after a 12-15 h fast. Blood samples were taken both before and after a 16-week period of vitamin and trace mineral supplementation. Individual tests of verbal and nonverbal intelligence were also performed pre- and post-supplementation. The results of this study indicate that the use of food table data may lead to substantial over- or underestimation of the intake of several micronutrients. In general, the total calculated or analysed amount of a specific micronutrient consumed did not adequately predict status, as judged by a range of biochemical indices. There were significant changes in status measurements over the 16-week study period, irrespective of supplementation, and these changes were markedly influenced by the initial status of the subject. There was no effect of supplementation on performance in tests of intelligence. However, there was a significant association between plasma ascorbic acid and initial non-verbal intelligence quotient (IQ) in the boys, and between whole blood glutathione peroxidase (EC 1.11.1.9) activity and non-verbal and verbal IQ in both sexes. These findings are discussed in relation to other recent studies of the influence of micronutrient supplementation on the psychological performance of children.

Hardly blooming conclusive, then.

That's where I have heard of her!
I love Nigel too. He likes bacon sandwiches. He loves proper food.

(sorry got to take this chance to ask Issyfit, are you Issymum?)

Tamum, dearest, being as how I am an English graduate and all, what does that article actually mean?

issyfit, I'm glad to read your post, I was too embarassed to write that yes, my ds's do appear to go rather hyper after any quantity of sugar....
agree about the parpyness of the article though. I've started developing antibodies to any article by a meedja type that mentions their darling children by name...