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4 sisters returned to Italian father after their Australian Mum took them to Australia.....dragged kicking and screaming onto the plane.

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AmberLeaf · 05/10/2012 00:59

Apparently the girls aged between 9-15 are dual citizens.

Link sorry its the DM.

Do they not take the childs view into account in Australia?

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Morloth · 06/10/2012 23:21

Yes, they have the right for the family court to hear their case and make a decision.

I hope the Italian courts expedite this as much as possible so it can be sorted out.

If I were the mother in this case I would be ensuring good legal representation and applying as much pressure as possible to get this heard NOW.

LineRunner · 06/10/2012 23:21

The rights of the girls are the only thing I have discussed on here since yesterday.

difficultpickle · 06/10/2012 23:23

I would have thought that the girls have the right to be together. I am surprised that the court order didn't stipulate that.

Morloth · 06/10/2012 23:27

If he is breaching orders then he needs his arse kicked as well.

They should all get to make their submissions (including the children), all the evidence be presented and then an impartial ruling needs to be made as to what is best for the kids.

Clearly their parents are incapable of this sort it should be taken out of their hands.

adogforever · 06/10/2012 23:28

One wonders are the 4 daughters needs looked after? what do they want or where they live and it seem they want their mother and Australia, he said in Australia they could have contact with their mother and on this news report the daughter cry they are not allowed to talk to their mother not even a phone call to settle them down and adjust, a lot of talk about Laura Garrett and her original family has no bearing on her what her or her children , this is about the parents of these 4 daughters and their happiness, so please no more talk of white trash and the like which I feel is degrading to the family and these girls.

Redsilk · 06/10/2012 23:44

adogforever, I just watched the video and it's exactly what I said would happen yesterday and again today. The older girls have been programmed by mum to bring hate and problems. The dad will have his hands full. But they'll get over it.

Leave it to an idiot Australian reporter to invade such a private and delicate moment. She ought to be in jail.

Again, I've said here repeatedly that the older girls were poisoned against the dad and they were coming to bring trouble. I'm sorry to have been shown to be right.

I've also said mum is a liar about not coming to Italy.

Redsilk · 06/10/2012 23:49

The girls are 14 and 15. My guess is that they want their friends (and boyfriends) more than anything else. That's their age.

This also shows the girls are not being kept by the Italian authorities, as was suggested yesterday. But if they keep up this behaviour, they soon will be.

The girls have not lived in Italy for 2 years. Give the dad a chance to deal with the challenge he's facing. Not an easy one for any parent.

adogforever · 06/10/2012 23:54

www.couriermail.com.au/news/sisters-at-centre-of-custody-dispute-in-traumatic-scenes-at-fathers-italian-villa/story-e6freon6-1226489984517

It has been reported in Italy the mother could be charged so this shoots your idea down

Morloth · 07/10/2012 00:00

She doesn't need to physically be there to fight for custody.

LineRunner · 07/10/2012 00:08

Oh dear. The officials in Florence won't rule out prosecuting the mother.

needanswers · 07/10/2012 00:14

I dont see anything in the most recent linked article that suggests anything other than a family who want to heal.

The family have made it clear they dont want to prosecute.

The Australian authorities separated the children not the father.

He is right, all the media at their gate wont be helping them at all, so what if the grandmother is there, so she should be, med families hold family and extended family veyr dear, which makes it all the more wrong she spirited the girls away from everything they knew in the first place.

Redsilk · 07/10/2012 00:16

adogforever, I'll bet you a good Italian dinner that the mum does go to Italy and that she doesn't get arrested. If i lose, my skill is limited to a mean spaghetti Alfredo, which I've been told is not Italian. So we'll have to go out.

If these were my children, not even the risk of a life sentence would stop me from going. And I really don't think a prosecutor will waste time pursuing charges without a complainant.

Also if these were my children, I'd be getting short on patience with the behaviour of these older two.

LineRunner · 07/10/2012 00:16

It would help if the Italian authorities would rule out prosecution. What a slap in the face for the Australian judge.

adogforever · 07/10/2012 00:23

redsilk have to ever lived in Italy? or been married to a Italian?

Redsilk · 07/10/2012 00:24

If my teenage daughter were suddenly whisked away to live with dh's family in another country, she would yell and kick and scream.

But not because she misses me. Alas, those years are gone.

No, she'd want her friends and especially her boyfriend.

Hormones

The price of being a mum is that your children take you for granted by this age.

adogforever · 07/10/2012 00:25

redsilk that may relate to your daughter but not everyones daughter is like yours

Redsilk · 07/10/2012 00:26

Adogforever, I've visited and am certainly open to the idea! Why? got any suggestions for me?
Smile

adogforever · 07/10/2012 00:29

The more these girls are bounced around by the father and his family and the reporting to the news about their mother they will only make them stand up and fight for what they want, and if they come down heavy on them they will run away. fact

Redsilk · 07/10/2012 00:31

No, I suppose not. But I've always felt that the expression that says it all is the one that having children is to forever to have your heart go walking around outside your body. So I suck it up and don't complain. I know I'm loved. And, more important, I know that my love is felt. And that's all that matters.

14 is a rough age for any girl. Lets not forget that.

adogforever · 07/10/2012 00:32

redsilk just step back and take a breath you may see things different.

Redsilk · 07/10/2012 00:35

Adogforever, agree fully with your last comment. These will be challenging weeks to come.

When my family lived through a similar situation, it took a few months for the children to restore the normal attachments they previously had. But then it all passed.

My advice to the dad is to show the girls he won't prevent contact with their mum and that he does not speak ill off her to them despite any anger he may feel.

Redsilk · 07/10/2012 00:36

Adogforever, the comment I agreed with was not the one about breathing. I do ok in oxygen intake. But thanks for the concern.

AmberLeaf · 07/10/2012 03:37

Just watched that video.

I really hope all of you who are blaming the Mum and who think the girls are only reacting like that because they have been manipulated by her are right, because the alternative interpretation of the girls behavior in that video is awful.

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Mosman · 07/10/2012 04:02

This actually makes me laugh because when I wanted my Australian ex to pay half towards his daughters school fees I was told the British courts had no durestriction so even if I won at great expense they couldn't enforce the order. Apparently that doesn't work both ways, cannot wait until my girl turns 18.

Morloth · 07/10/2012 06:14

The children were removed from Australia in accordance with the Hague Convention Mosman, unless your ex abducted your daughter and ran to Australia with her, then there is no parallel at all.

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