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Salt poisoning case - didn't someone who knew the couple post here once?

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hunkermunker · 23/03/2006 11:34

Very convincing of their innocence iirc?

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fuzzywuzzy · 23/03/2006 11:35

hmmm, she said she was a parent of one of the couple.....

Callisto · 23/03/2006 11:38

I am very sceptical of the original conviction since all of the 'expert witnesses going outside their area of expertise' stuff has come to light.

hunkermunker · 23/03/2006 11:39

Me too - plus one thing they put a lot of emphasis on was that she'd gone back to work while he stayed home iirc. Wtf that had to do with it I don't know.

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 23/03/2006 11:40

why hunker?

hunkermunker · 23/03/2006 11:41

Just interested - saw it had come up for appeal and shocked it had taken so long.

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 23/03/2006 11:42

ah. i dont keep up with the news much.

Marina · 23/03/2006 11:44

Really hunker? Can't remember when the case was but it didn't seem all that long ago. Quite agree there were many aspects to the original trial that made you really wonder if justice had been done. I hope they get a fair hearing this time.

Callisto · 23/03/2006 11:51

Same here. Anyone remember the BBC documentary where the reporter drank a saline drink containing the amount of salt the little boy was meant to have been given? The reporter threw up (as anyone would) because the body automatically rejects too much salt as poison. Not very scientific but interesting.

Caligula · 23/03/2006 11:52

The thread where she posted is \link{http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1372&threadid=64466\here}

hunkermunker · 23/03/2006 11:56

Thanks, Caligula - have bumped thread. Interesting and shocking.

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KeepingMum · 23/03/2006 11:57

I remember a radio 4 program about this case which had dh's old prof talking about what may have happened in this case. Apparently there is some kind of syndrome a bit like diabetes but where the body can't regulate its salt levels. I'm not sure if he is going to be one of the expert witnesses for the defence but he definitely thought that this was a miscarriage of justice.

Callisto · 23/03/2006 11:59

Yes, I seem to recall that too, KeepingMum.

Jacie · 25/03/2006 09:52

Due to one thing or another I haven't posted for quite a while, but, yes, I am Ian Gay's mother.
Whilst Ian and Angela's families are feeling a bit dejected at the moment due to the Appeal Court's decision to reserve judgement on their conviction, we are still feeling confident that it will turn out to be favourable when it happens.
I don't think their was anyone in the Court (including the CPS) who didn't actually believe in their innnocence, but the Appeal Court ia not about truth or innnocence, but about points of law, and whether the law had been followed correctly.
I think it speaks volumes when I tell yopu that there were reporters there in tears, when it was realised that the couple would not be walking free on Thursday.

hunkermunker · 25/03/2006 09:55

I will have my fingers crossed for a positive outcome x x x

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morningpaper · 25/03/2006 09:55

Gosh Jacie what a stressful time for you

Best of luck

getbakainyourjimjams · 25/03/2006 19:47

Gosh Jacie- I was talking about this case with my mum only yesterday (following on from a thread on here last week about SS and paediatricians getting it wrong so often). There for the grace of God go any of us.

TearsBeforeBedtime · 25/03/2006 19:49

best of luck to you and your family, jacie. I also feel very sceptical about the original conviction.

getbakainyourjimjams · 25/03/2006 19:55

Just read the previous thread. Jacie- I heard this second hand (but only with 1 person in between if you know what I mean). I know someone who has a very severely disabled dd who recently had to be resucitated. Later (whilst still in hospital) it was discovered she had broken ribs. The paediatrician (who happens to be ds1's paediatrician but we very rarely see him thank god- he's a fool), repeatedly returned to the mother to tell her she must have broken her dd's ribs, and wanted her to admit to it. This went on until the mother placed an official complaint - and involved someone higher up (although this was quite a senior paed) and it was agreed that the ribs had been broken during resuc. Considering her dd's very severe and life limiting disabilities were caused by a hospital cock up in the first place the mother unsurprisingly now drives for 2 hours to get to the next hospital as she refuses to set foot in that place again.

It can happen to anyone. I do hope you have good news soon.

Flossam · 25/03/2006 20:00

JJ!!!!!!!!!!! Shock It is very well known that ribs get broken during CPR! WTF was that dr thinking? Shock

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getbakainyourjimjams · 25/03/2006 20:59

I know Flossam, I know. I don't know what he was thinking of, I only know the mum vaguely (but know her friend well). Her dd is very, very disabled, so maybe it was a case of assuming that someone would be unable to cope- offensive though as her mother has fought for her from the day she was born.

Flossam · 25/03/2006 21:09

very offensive. poor lady. Sad

sharklet · 25/03/2006 21:16

Its really frightening how things can get twisted especially when those twisting might be trying to get out of blame for not fulfilling thier own duite properly. It sounds to me like this little boy was badly let down on many levels by many people and the two most responsible for him at the last have been made scapegoats. Its chilling.

I do hope that justice is served.

getbakainyourjimjams · 25/03/2006 21:16

Actually and I can't believe I forgot this- but the same paed made an absolutely hideous allegation against a friend of mine (kind of her/kind of her dd- who incicentally - relevant to this thread- is adopted) and I did get that first hand. She was lucky because the paeds superior knows her family very well and she went absolutely ballistic when she heard what was going on. If she hadn't had that support from higher up it could have destroyed the family.

I'm lucky- he is officially ds1's paed, but we always see a very lovely registrar of his.

Caligula · 25/03/2006 23:34

Can't you get yourself allocated to another paed, on the basis that this one's a loon who has been overtaken by the current anti-mother hysteria?

Probably not. Sad I wonder how many other paeds have imbibed this attitude of automatic hostility to mothers.