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Lance Armstrong.

256 replies

diddl · 24/08/2012 08:23

What on earth is going on?

If he hasn´t failed a drug test, how can he be found guilty just because he can´t be bothered to fight any more?

Is it an admission of guilt?

If the USADA has evidence-where is it-why haven´t they produced it or is it all just rumour/hearsay?

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squoosh · 18/01/2013 20:57

Must be quite irritating to have to re-sue for something that they dishonestly sued you for.

AnyaKnowIt · 18/01/2013 21:50

He still can't tell the truth can he. He said that he has never failed a test yet got a backdated prescription to cover up the fact that he did fail.

I see a new career in politics Hmm

vivizone · 18/01/2013 22:07

I can think of worse people to hate. In fact I have just decided I like him.

Thisisaeuphemism · 18/01/2013 22:12

It is possible to hate several people simultaneously.

I hate him despite only learning about him recently. Blush

AnyaKnowIt · 18/01/2013 22:15

Before that interview, I had no option on him whatsoever.

After, I think he is a lying cunt

iclaudius · 18/01/2013 22:26

ditto

opinion prior to interview - ambivalent
post interview - loathsome self serving human

squoosh · 18/01/2013 22:26

I'm talented, I'm capable of simultaneously despising more than one lying sociopath.

MysteriousHamster · 18/01/2013 22:55

It's not vitriolic to say out loud what we think of him now he's finally come out with (a version of) the truth.

He's a grade a bastard. He has thought nothing of building an empire on his lies, ruining people's lives, their names, suing people left, right and centre, pressuring team members to dope, getting other people investigated, earning millions on the back of these lies.

So what if he had a tough upbringing? Even if you think it contributed it excuses nothing. He's a sociopathic bully. He's only admitting this much because he wants a chance to race again and maybe if he says 2005 was the last time he'll be able to do it soon.

His bloodwork suggests he was doping in 2009, so chances are he's STILL lying.

I really hope the current cycling stars are clean but it's so hard to know. Wiggins used to speak out against dopers, now he speaks out against those investigating dopers. I don't like the change.

ElfSweetPea · 19/01/2013 00:02

Totally agree MysteriousHamster. Not sure about the Bradley Wiggens thought though.

There was no sign of remorse in the first part of the interview, no signs on his face of deep regret, no body language showing he is really sorry. I have a feeling he was forced into doing the interview, maybe something was about to come out, he felt he had to get in first.

Second part of the interview airs tonight in the US, should be interesting.
The next part of this saga is did his ex Sheryl Crow know...

CaseyShraeger · 19/01/2013 00:52

Can you give examples of that, MysteriousHamster (other than his not being keen on Kimmage himself)? I've seen plently of anti-doping statements from Wiggins recently.

squoosh · 19/01/2013 01:27

I think it was very odd that Wiggins said that he would not be watching the Armstrong interview.

Seriously? You have no interest in seeing Armstrong's explanations? This is the biggest scandal ever to have hit cycling.

There is clearly a lot of anger towards Kimmage and the other journalists who pursued the doping issue from the cycling hierarchy. As Kimmage tweeted 'ignore the message, attack the messenger'

expatinscotland · 19/01/2013 08:53

He thinks he should be allowed to compete again.

here

AnyaKnowIt · 19/01/2013 09:06

so this is all for his own benefit then Hmm

trustissues75 · 19/01/2013 09:27

If what he says about his childhood is true I'm hardly surprised at his behaviour - it doesn't sound like anyone stepped in early enough to mitigate the monster that was being created. I googled sociopathic personality with childhood abuse and this was the first article I came across - I doubt the irony of the source of the article will be lost on anyone!

www.livestrong.com/article/93343-childhood-signs-sociopath/

Sorry, have no idea how to create clickable links.

CoteDAzur · 19/01/2013 09:29

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trustissues75 · 19/01/2013 09:31

nd another article that goes into more detail - again from the same source (perhaps Lance recognised himself? Even more reason to vehemently cover up his behaviour at all costs)

www.livestrong.com/article/99456-causes-sociopathic-behavior/

TheOneWithTheHair · 19/01/2013 09:32

www.livestrong.com/article/93343-childhood-signs-sociopath/

There you go.

CoteDAzur · 19/01/2013 09:35

The childhood stuff he now tells is him fabricating an excuse for his behavior. And he is only making that effort because he is now in trouble, not because he regrets that behavior.

TheOneWithTheHair · 19/01/2013 09:36

I think he covered up his behaviour because it was illegal in the sport and he just wanted to win.

It's interesting that he said that his worst day was when Nike pulled out. Was that when he began to realise he wasn't going to win this one I wonder?

CoteDAzur · 19/01/2013 09:39

"Sociopath" covers conditions like psychopathy and antisocial behavior disorder.

I think Lance Armstrong is hoping that people will think he is antisocial, whereas he is more probably a true psychopath.

trustissues75 · 19/01/2013 09:42

Cote, I'm not suggesting that that he regrets his behaviour in any way shape or form - if he is on the sociopathic spectrum he's incapable of regret (except in the sense that he could regret purely from a personal gain perspective) Regret that he's damaged/hurt/ruined other people? If he's what people have suggested - he's completely incapable of putting himself in others' shoes and feeling empathy for what he put them through. He couldn't care less that he's potentially ruined the sport - except from the POV that if the sport is ruined he won't get to compete and win in it. Me me me.

Nancy66 · 19/01/2013 09:43

I don't believe he had a particularly horrible childhood. His family relocated and his parents got divorced - it's hardly Angela's Ash's.

I saw pictures of him on something as a teenager and it's obvious he's had a nose job. Bizarrely I think that says a lot about the man and his narcissm

trustissues75 · 19/01/2013 09:44

Thanks for the tip Cote - I completely missed the instructions beneath the box.

trustissues75 · 19/01/2013 09:49

Cote, I doubt he'd have even given who he is a second thought (my comment on him possibly recognising himself was just me being silly) - people like that don't question themselves, don't second guess themselves - in their eyes they're perfect, everyone else is wrong and woe betide anyone who dares question their POV/opinion/authority etc. I only saw a few seconds of the Oprah interview yesterday and his body language and facial expressions and words made me feel physically sick - there wasn't a moment in that small excerpt that I saw that he was genuine. This is all again for his own personal gain.

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