Midwives say women should pay for epidurals

[TheDullWitch]

At least £500 a baby it says here

Tribpot at your Biblical quote!

why is it everyone one else is able to put their points across so more eliquently than me? Do I sound uneducated?

BTW - glad I am not the only one who feels epidurals are not a luxury, was a bit worried for a while that I was on my own there!

What is Aloha's opinion on this then??

Message withdrawn

I loved the line in the article that said women who have epidurals might spend longer pushing the baby out. What! Longer than the 3 1/2 hours I spent trying to push out DD1 because she'd got stuck (with no pain relief) as opposed to the few minutes once I'd been given an epidural with a ventouse.

If we're going to start charging for epidurals when used in childbirth, can we charge for them when they're used for all operations. E.g my FIL had one (or something similar because he was wide awake) for a prostate operation several years ago. Can the NHS charge for that too? Oh boy, can you see the uproar (or hear it!) if men had to go through an operation on something "down there" without an anaesthetic?

Aloha thinks epidurals shouldn t be given to fundementalist Christians or Muslims. Until they deny God/Allah and live a secular life.

I think you should be able to chose to have a section if you want one. It is not all B list celebs and 'career' women that have them, that is a myth imo.

Some women do not want to give birth vaginally.

Sorry, but why are you bringing Aloha into this? Is it some kind of spiteful personal vendetta? If so, please stop it now.

And you think they shouldn't be given out at all, DullWitch.

it is not. Aloha has strong views on sections etc. No spite in it as far as I can see.

Sorry, it was a joke, related to Aloha's flouncing incident.

Can't say I've ever had Botox or plastic surgery, Dull, or that the epidural I had was to spare me any 'inconvenience'.

Hell, I'd have just not had kids at all if I weren't willing to deal w/inconvenience. Of course, getting stuck in traffic is damned annoying when I'm running late for my manicure appointment . . .

Message withdrawn

This has made me angry, how absurd, the well off can have pain relief but the poor women who might be in unbearble pain has to suffer because she can't pay for the Nhs to ease her pain.
I don't know how I would have coped without an epidural it made the birth an amazing experience for me and I only pushed for 20 mins no intervention.
pain is an individual thing, you can't say all women should give birth without an epidural when there's no way you can feel the pain they are going through.

I am waiting for expat to antagonise a teeny bit more and create the row she is sooooo desparately wanting

Message withdrawn

what Cod?

Message withdrawn

For elective caesareans?

well I had a VBAC and I am ruined, ruined I tell you.

Message withdrawn

Great - I can just imagine a hypothetical conversation between me and DH if that had been the case with my two ...

"oh come on darling, just grit your teeth, we can use the £500 for a nice holiday. Women have been doing it for years with out pain relief, you'll be fine"

What a total, total pile of *t! Everyone has a different pain threshold. I thought mine was particularly high until I experienced labour. Why the feck is it called labour in the first place - because it's hard going and bloody sore!!!

On Radio 2 ATM

Totally irrelevant but i was just listening to the News in the care and they were talking about this proposal to conform with the rest of Europe and make our road signs and the rest in Kilometres.
8o million that would cost (more like 800 million someone on there said)
SO, all women in labour will suffer but at least our road signs won't offend.
(That's if it is really about money which i guess it is)

Not that i'm totally for epidurals, jus6t the option if you want or need one.