The Conservatives

[MammaBrussels]

I cannot believe someone, even someone in the Conservative Party, would say this.

How can anyone support them?

The use of the language, one word in particular, was offensive and unecessary

MammaBrussels

Flatpack we're not too sensitive for grown up debate but most grown ups I know can debate without being deliberately offensive.

Apparently you are too sensitive, because if you weren't too sensitive my posts would still be in place. It's much easier to censor me than to have to cogently argue in favour of your point of view.

I disagree. So you reported it?

I reported the first of your posts Flatpack for using racially offensive language. MN deleted the post because it broke the talk guidelines. I can't say why the second one was deleted because I didn't see it.

Consider this; how do you think that my views on censorship and the concept of 'giving offence' have been altered by your decision to have me censored? Do you think that, by having my opinion deleted, you have convinced anyone here that yours is a rational or moderate position?

The left tend to use worse language than the right as they are usually not so well educated so have a more limited vocabulary.

Consider this; how do you think that my views on censorship and the concept of 'giving offence' have been altered by your decision to have me censored?
I would say not at all. If I were trying to change your views on censorship I might be upset by that.

Do you think that, by having my opinion deleted, you have convinced anyone here that yours is a rational or moderate position?

Do you think that by using offensive and racist language you have convinced anyone that you have a rational or moderate view?

The left tend to use worse language than the right as they are usually not so well educated so have a more limited vocabulary.

So, to recap - MammaBrussels starts a thread about some councillor nobody has ever heard of using an offensive phrase.

Another poster replies to this - using the very phrase that MammaBrussels has introduced into the conversation. MammaBrussels gets poster deleted.

Right.

I have to say I'm more than a little surprised to find that people are willing to defend the use of one of the most offensive words in the English language but hey each to their own .

Good Grief I cannot believe he said that

Is this just to deflect from ickle Millibrand showing his own racist/xenophobic views yesterday during his radio 4 interview?

So an old codger used an outdated but still frequently used phrase you all try to tar the conservatives as racist when milbrand is trying to grab voters from the EDL and BNP and English democrats because he is scared he will lose the MP´s in Scotland that gave the vast majority of the UK a unrepresentative government during the Blair years.

The word is only offensive if you allow it to be. Many black people have reclaimed it for themselves to use.

2shoes trying to say the conservatives hate disabled people really is nonsense. Are you aware of David Cameron´s own family background and you think he would hate disabled people?

That is NOT a frequently used phrase by a long chalk, and hasn't been for decades.

A commonly used phrase???? Give me strength!

"The word is only offensive if you allow it to be. Many black people have reclaimed it for themselves to use."

Ha ha ha ha

"an outdated phrase"

Priceless

Anyone who thinks that phrase is remotely acceptable in public life ( or private although thst's the individual's business should not be working in public affairs. It is not outdated, it is more offensive than all the fucks in the world.

It certainly hasn't been used for decades.

It was Xenia's comment that made me laugh!

"The word is only offensive if you allow it to be."
So you won't mind if I call you an insensitive, ignorant,racist motherfucker then?

I dare anyone on here who thinks it is a commonly used term to come around here in North London...stand in the street and use the term. Then you can tell us how it went...from A&E

seeker yes that crossed my mind too but I bottled it!

The word is only offensive if you allow it to be."

It reminds me of the DC who tried to tell me that he was using the 'nice' meaning of pervert. On being questioned he couldn't come up with a 'nice' meaning. This is similar, but the person saying it is a lot older than an 8yr old.

Well yes exotic, apparently only intelligent right wingers use the n-word.

I dunno, I'm just a poor ignorant person, perhaps the black upper classes have embraced the n-word, perhaps Xenia regularly claps a fellow black lawyer on the back and uses it as a term of endearment.

I don't know, being poor and stupid.

The youngest person I've ever heard use this phrase in real life is 89. And he's a Tory. I''l forgive him as he's my grandad, but someone elected and with some input into how the country is run should obviously know better than to even dream of using either the word or the phrase.

It's not in anyone's gift to 'allow' the n word to be offensive, or determine that it isn't. No matter how many people come on and post 'aaaaah but if it's so offensive then how come all the rap singers call each n* ALL THE TIME, and it's a common term among the kidz' and all that. It's an offensive word anyway, and the phrase about the woodpile is quite obviously a particularly offensive way to use it.

So, who wants to be the stupid ignorant racist in the woodpile and say otherwise?

There is a huge difference to using a figure of speech that is no doubt common amongst his peers and using the word in a directed offensive way towards someone who could reasonably be assumed to take offense.

No there isn't