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Mumsnet, will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? And call upon the FA to kick sexism out of football?

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BasilFoulEggs · 29/04/2012 23:13

Dear Mumsnet
As you are no doubt aware, there has been the most extraordinary hate campaign waged this week by some football fans, against a rape victim in the wake of the Ched Evans Guilty Verdict.

The jist of the hatespeak, has been that a drunk woman has no right to expect the basic human right of not having her body penetrated without her active participation in that sexual act, or even her passive consent. Presumably because men (or at least footballers and their friends) have the right to penetrate women who are incapable of consent. And that if a man rapes you, it is because you are a slut, a slag and all the other hate-speak words used to de-humanise women and make it easier for people not to empathise with us when we are abused.

This week has seen the really ugly spectacle, of a bunch of men asserting their right to rape women, handmaidens supporting that right and both of them sending out a clear warning to all other rape victims, to know what to expect if they dare to pursue justice if they are raped.

If there had been a similar outpouring of hatred against any other historically oppressed group, the rest of the media would have been tearing their hair out analysing why some men hated this group so much, where the hatred came from, why it existed, what could be done about it; but ironically apart from the Daily Fail, there has been very little comment in response to the Twitter hate-campaign. If Twitter had buzzed with indignation at the jailing of the man who posted hate-speak about Fabrice Muamba, I?ve no doubt that the FA would have tracked down the posters and banned them from football matches. Because they?re busy kicking racism out of football. Sexism, though, is fine. They can give a bloody award to a convicted rapist, while their supporters conduct what must be a terrifying hate campaign against his teenage victim? right now, football fans don?t look all that much better than the Taliban, do they?

Mumsnet, will you use the voice you have against this horrible hate campaign? Will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? Will you ask the FA to state publicly, that they too, believe her and that in future, they will work as hard to kick sexism out of football, as they do to kick racism out?

Thank You.

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Tee2072 · 30/04/2012 08:26

A Facebook page is an open forum. We have every right to post on it. Just as they have every right to register for MN and post here. But I don't think they're quite that stupid.

storminabuttercup · 30/04/2012 08:28

I believe you sweetheart. X

TheCrackFox · 30/04/2012 08:28

I believe her.

herwegoagain · 30/04/2012 08:28

I belive her.

SillyBeardyDaddyman · 30/04/2012 08:29

Tee they're supporting rapists, they probably are that stupid.

GentleOtter · 30/04/2012 08:30

I believe her.

MooBaaWoofCheep · 30/04/2012 08:30

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MmeLindor. · 30/04/2012 08:31

They are deleting the "I believe her" comments on FB.

crowface · 30/04/2012 08:31

I believe her. I'm horrified at the support he has. It basically comes down to a belief hat footballers are above the law. They're not, and the conviction should stand, followed by a lifetime ban by the fa when he's released.

crowface · 30/04/2012 08:34

Moobaawoo, I didn't like the page and was able to comment. Seems pointless though if they can delete the comments. Might just complain to Facebook asking for the page to be removed.

intravenouscoffee · 30/04/2012 08:34

I believe her.

AfternoonsAndCoffeespoons · 30/04/2012 08:35

You didn't have 'like' it earlier, MooBaa. they are deleting comments and appear to have changed the settings now. I was going to repost but again, won't 'like' the page.

MmeLindor. · 30/04/2012 08:36

btw, just been reading about the case - and noticed this

"Nita Dowell, senior crown prosecutor in Wales, said: "Ched Evans took advantage of a vulnerable young woman who was in no fit state to consent to sexual activity.

"It is a myth that being vulnerable through alcohol consumption means that a victim is somehow responsible for being raped. The law is clear: being vulnerable through drink or drugs does not imply consent."

which implies that the CP had been following the MN campaign, where we quashed "rape myths".

debka · 30/04/2012 08:37

I believe her

bronze · 30/04/2012 08:38

I believe her

RachelWalsh · 30/04/2012 08:39

I believe her

EightiesChick · 30/04/2012 08:39

Can we do #ibelieveher as suggested on Twitter?

MousyMouse · 30/04/2012 08:41

I believe you.
good for you for getting a conviction, even though it must have been really tough, especially as it's only 'half' a conviction.

HollyGoHeavily · 30/04/2012 08:42

I believe her

nowahousewife · 30/04/2012 08:43

Been lurking for a while but this campaign has prompted me to post on FB (also first post there) saying I believe in her as did the jury. Noted several other very recent posts of the same nature. I've just checked back on that FB site and all the 'I believe' posts seem to have disappeared. Can the owner of a FB page remove posts they don't like?

GnocchiGnocchiWhosThere · 30/04/2012 08:46

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Pan · 30/04/2012 08:46

I believe her.

AvengingGerbil · 30/04/2012 08:47

I believe her.

Smugfearnleyshittingstool · 30/04/2012 08:47

I believe her. Poor girl.

Leftwingharpie · 30/04/2012 08:54

I can't believe women are saying that if a teenage girl voluntarily goes to a man's hotel room, she tacitly agrees to whatever happens to her from that point on. If they had murdered her, would she also have consented to that? It's madness.

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