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Mumsnet, will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? And call upon the FA to kick sexism out of football?

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BasilFoulEggs · 29/04/2012 23:13

Dear Mumsnet
As you are no doubt aware, there has been the most extraordinary hate campaign waged this week by some football fans, against a rape victim in the wake of the Ched Evans Guilty Verdict.

The jist of the hatespeak, has been that a drunk woman has no right to expect the basic human right of not having her body penetrated without her active participation in that sexual act, or even her passive consent. Presumably because men (or at least footballers and their friends) have the right to penetrate women who are incapable of consent. And that if a man rapes you, it is because you are a slut, a slag and all the other hate-speak words used to de-humanise women and make it easier for people not to empathise with us when we are abused.

This week has seen the really ugly spectacle, of a bunch of men asserting their right to rape women, handmaidens supporting that right and both of them sending out a clear warning to all other rape victims, to know what to expect if they dare to pursue justice if they are raped.

If there had been a similar outpouring of hatred against any other historically oppressed group, the rest of the media would have been tearing their hair out analysing why some men hated this group so much, where the hatred came from, why it existed, what could be done about it; but ironically apart from the Daily Fail, there has been very little comment in response to the Twitter hate-campaign. If Twitter had buzzed with indignation at the jailing of the man who posted hate-speak about Fabrice Muamba, I?ve no doubt that the FA would have tracked down the posters and banned them from football matches. Because they?re busy kicking racism out of football. Sexism, though, is fine. They can give a bloody award to a convicted rapist, while their supporters conduct what must be a terrifying hate campaign against his teenage victim? right now, football fans don?t look all that much better than the Taliban, do they?

Mumsnet, will you use the voice you have against this horrible hate campaign? Will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? Will you ask the FA to state publicly, that they too, believe her and that in future, they will work as hard to kick sexism out of football, as they do to kick racism out?

Thank You.

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BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 30/04/2012 16:46

You might also like to follow/tweet to @waatp (Who Ate All The Pies) which is a football supporters a/c, I believe.

Atreegrowsinbrooklyn · 30/04/2012 16:47

I believe you.

DH believes you.

DD1, DD2, DD3, DS1, DS2 .....We all believe you.

We send you love.

PBate · 30/04/2012 16:52

If you are found guilty in a court for rape then you must suffer the consequences. There is too little thought or support given to the victim. Crime takes precedence over football. Human life is precious and victims need to be comforted knowing that many people's hearts go out to them for what they have sufferred.

ScrambledSmegs · 30/04/2012 16:52

I believe her.

I also believe that the other man, who was acquitted on what looks like tenuous and prejudiced grounds to me, is also guilty. I feel angry that a rapist is allowed to walk free. If she was too incapable to consent to Ched, surely it follows that she was incapable of consenting full stop?

Thank you for this thread, Basil. Will check out FB.

piprabbit · 30/04/2012 16:53

[http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/04/30/we-believe-her-campaign-for-ched-evans-rape-victim_n_1464657.html?ref=uk The Huffington Post]] also have an article.

piprabbit · 30/04/2012 16:55

Try again - sorry.

FannyFifer · 30/04/2012 16:59

I think what has shocked me the most is the amount of young women condoning the rape of another.
Comments like "who wouldn't want to end up in bed with Evans' %23ungrateful", etc.

WTAF.

saladfingers · 30/04/2012 17:04

I believe her

Lovetats · 30/04/2012 17:05

I believe her.

Pantah630 · 30/04/2012 17:08

I believe her, unfortunately there will always be those that don't, whether from mysogyny, ignorance or sheer bloodymindedness :(

ambercat · 30/04/2012 17:12

I believe you xxx

GreatExpectations2012 · 30/04/2012 17:13

I believe you.

Smellslikeweenspirits · 30/04/2012 17:16

I believe her

piprabbit · 30/04/2012 17:18

MNHQ have been very quiet since Justine posted this morning. I wonder how their discussions are going.

flippinada · 30/04/2012 17:21

Great thread Basil. At the risk of sounding smarmy, it needed saying and you said it well.

I've been following all day but this is the first time I've had a chance to post.

That Telegraph article is great.

And last but not least, I believe you too.

MsTimTam · 30/04/2012 17:27

I believe her

bubblebathgirl · 30/04/2012 17:28

I believe you x

StellaAndFries · 30/04/2012 17:34

I believe her.

JustineMumsnet · 30/04/2012 17:38

Hi all,
We've spoken to End Violence Against Women folk and offered our support for their work on this case and obviously to the Telegraph too.

We'll send a link to this thread to the FA and keep you posted on their response. Thanks to all who have posted on this thread and to Basil for starting it.

Pan · 30/04/2012 17:46

and..you can send the FA a direct message on twitter, on @thefadotcom

msrisotto · 30/04/2012 17:48

Thanks Justine, I for one really really appreciate you taking the issues that are important to us and using your position of power to do something.

failingfast · 30/04/2012 17:52

I believe her.

She was unable to give her consent.

She was raped.

What's not to believe?

DonalG · 30/04/2012 17:52

I believe her.

BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 30/04/2012 17:52

.... and as he plays for Wales @FAWales

Mama1980 · 30/04/2012 17:55

I believe her

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