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Tories order Police to halt workfare demos

174 replies

minimathsmouse · 26/02/2012 16:33

In the mail on Sunday it is reported that IDS has ordered the police to step in and stop ANY demonstration against workfare.

I think this seems to be an attack on freedom of speech, I wondered if other people think the same or do you believe that even in a democracy the state should have the power to stop "some" opposition.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2106601/Tories-order-police-halt-workfare-demos-MP-makes-formal-protest-BBC-bias-favour-hard-Left-militants.html?ITO=1490

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LadySybilDeChocolate · 26/02/2012 18:21

It's not acceptable for people to speak out against their policies, we need to all agree like good little brainless people. It's all going tits up for them, and they know this.

edam · 26/02/2012 18:25

IDS may not legally be able to instruct the police but I'm sure he can bring pressure to bear. It'd be a tough call for a chief constable to ignore the wishes of the government of the day. And the police aren't exactly well-disposed towards demonstrators at the best of times.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 26/02/2012 18:32

IDS refers specifically to shops being invaded - I think that's different, legally, from demos on the street.

Even the DM comments are anti-workfare - have they been 'infiltrated' too? Hmm

minimathsmouse · 26/02/2012 18:42

What remains is whether the BBC know they are being duped.

I don't think peaceful protest is sinister, neither is having a discussion on MN.

I do think calling in the powers of the state and using the language of fear, giving people the impression that any opposition is dangerous, telling people that socialism is about destruction and implying that left wing propaganda is at work is sinister. What next?

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LadySybilDeChocolate · 26/02/2012 18:43

Big Brother is watching us. Sad

Tortington · 26/02/2012 18:54

We are having our views sidelined as the mad rantings of student types with dreadlocks who haven't experienced life properly yet ( at which point they will give up this nonsense and just vote labour...when they have grown up a bit)

Frothers has been going for ages. They ARE marginalising an opposing point of view in the press
and silencing it on the streets.

I am really really concerned

minimathsmouse · 26/02/2012 19:12

"Back to the days when the police were the paramilitary arm of the conservative party" a statement on the mail website.

How true, this is like Maggie all over again.

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cory · 26/02/2012 21:23

Mumsnet has been infiltrated by...errrrr...a whole load of regular posters, some of them of many years' standing. In other words, we have infiltrated ourselves. Good on us! Grin

pointythings · 26/02/2012 21:42

I want my 'I am an extremist' badge. I will wear it to work.

Tortington · 26/02/2012 21:44

i would like one too

with a MN logo

QueenOfFlippingEverything · 26/02/2012 21:44

Hahahahaaaaaa that's my sweary thread title they have quoted Grin

I am not a hardline extremist infiltrator Hmm. I have been here for six years [gimmer]

pointythings · 26/02/2012 21:51

You rock.

SinicalSanta · 26/02/2012 21:52

I'm sorry I wasn't on that thread now.

'hardline extremist infiltrator' would add a dash of color to the old cv.

crazynanna · 26/02/2012 21:52

I want on my badge "I am a fucking extremist...and I like naice ham!"

Might need a big badge to fit it all on Wink

carernotasaint · 26/02/2012 21:58

You rock QOFE

DamselInDisarray · 26/02/2012 22:01

It's by annoying that Chris Grayling is trying to make people believe that resistance to workfare is an Internet campaign by a small number of socialist workers. I'm sure the socialist worker party are against it, but so are plenty of other people, even actual Conservative supporters.

I was very irritated listening to him on the today programme. He was so bloody dismissive of any possible concerns about it all. He's such an arrogant twat.

SwedishEdith · 26/02/2012 22:12

Grin Grin Grin Grin @ Another, left by someone calling themselves ?Norman Tebbit?, reads: ?Tesco are absolute f*ers.?

SwedishEdith · 26/02/2012 22:16

We all need to change our names to tory MP names now for ExtremeLeft© threads

theDevilHasTheBestMNNames · 26/02/2012 22:26

I'm a political centrist in a marginal seat and I have considerable concerns about this scheme in its current form.

I'm on a parenting site - so must be female and merely a mother so I can't matter to them - oh hang on I can vote next election.

NarkedPuffin · 26/02/2012 22:28

Because people who object to forced employment that adds to the profits of massive companies and ultimately steals payed work from employees is on the 'hard left'????

They are so far to the right ideologically they really don't understand that this policy angers people across the normal political spectrum.

NarkedPuffin · 26/02/2012 22:31

paid
are

I was distracted by DH starting a rousing rendition of The Internationale.

NunOnTheRun · 26/02/2012 22:43

'A small band of hard left militants' eh? The Mail wouldn't be taking the trouble to turn nasty (sorry, nastier) if this was indeed the case, and the activity 'fake'. Super Dave's problem is that the public aren't a)stupid b)willing to unquestioningly accept the Pig In A Poke that is the workfare scheme.

IanDunkeySmythe · 26/02/2012 22:43

I am shocked and horrified at the wholesale takeover of Mumsnet by the LooneyLeft fringe.

NunOnTheRun · 26/02/2012 22:47

IanDunkeySmythe U R 'Norman Tebbit' and I claim my £5 Grin
(Didn't know Norman was a mum)

NunOnTheRun · 26/02/2012 23:16

sigh

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9105325/The-Government-should-stand-up-to-the-rent-a-mob-campaign-against-unpaid-work-experience.html

"...if joining up with a handful of sad mutts outside a Tesco or a Waterstones branch to register your solidarity with the ?enslaved? jobseekers inside is your constitutional right, it does not follow that the mass media should treat you as if you were Martin Luther King...."

"...And, contrary to what I heard on the BBC news report on Friday morning, it is categorically not true that ?failure to take part? in the scheme can lead to suspension of benefits. Taking part, as I mentioned above, and Mr Grayling has said over and over again to every interviewer who will listen (and even to those who will not), is entirely voluntary..."

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