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weblette · 08/02/2012 20:01

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16941457

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slug · 09/02/2012 16:20

I mean, what would happen if the men's game disappeared off the TV, or indeed all men's sport was relegated to one or two small paragraphs in the sports pages and only women's was discussed/broadcast/in the media?

Would all sports following disappear or would the audience change to follow what was available?

cbem · 09/02/2012 16:22

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cbem · 09/02/2012 16:28

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slug · 09/02/2012 16:37

No. You are missing the point. To a large extent the audiences for sport in the media is created by the media itself.

The media is reliant on the football clubs, themselves large commercial enterprises, in supplying large amounts of footage and discussion points to fuel the 24 hour rolling news format that we are burdened with today. It's a self perpetuating loop. By gaining large amounts of media coverage they create audience awareness and create a market for their product, the men's game.

Is the men's game any better than the women's? On the basis of the relative world rankings it would appear not. The men's game has hovered in the "also ran" range for the better part of half a century. Is there an audience for women's sport? Look at the USA where women's football is massive in terms of TV coverage and game attendances. Since the game there hasn't, until recently, been dominated by men, the women's game has had a chance to build a large audience. The idea that people will only watch men play is, frankly, laughable.

Sport in the UK suffers badly from the dominance of club football. In other countries where the financial grip of the club game isn't so large, the range of sports covered in the media and played and watched by the population as a whole is far greateer. I'll give you an example of a country I know well. What do you think the most played and watched sport is in NZ? This is NZ, the home of the mighty All Blacks, dominators of the rugby field. NZ where the cricket team routinely beat both the English and the Ozzies. Yet the most played and watched sport, for both sexes?? Netball.

cbem · 09/02/2012 16:45

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slug · 09/02/2012 19:11

Ahh, you make the mistake of assuming that paid ticketing = spectators with counting. Most of the specataor sport in NZ and in Oz as well is free. My point is there isn't the stranglehold on the media you get here because there simply isn't enough money involved.

Sport does not need to be commercialized in order to be broadcast on the BBC which is funded through the licence fee. It's a common complaint of sportspeople of all genders that it's impossible to gain sponsorship beause they cannot gain media coverage due to the dominance of the wealthy football clubs.

Why is it that you think that only sport you pay to see is worthwhile? What about the Oxford Cambridge boat race? It's still amateur yet gains massive media coverage. I bet you didn't know a woman's boat race is run at the same time.

slug · 09/02/2012 19:12

worth counting

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cbem · 09/02/2012 20:16

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BelfastBloke · 10/02/2012 08:32

"It would be racist to say you hope your local coffee shop starts hiring English people over non-english people, why is it different for football? "

It's not racist to prefer Indians working in an Indian restaurant; when the national specificity is one of the most distinctive things about it.

The whole basis of international sport is 'the best of ours against the best of theirs'. That doesn't make it racist.

NigellasGuest · 10/02/2012 09:19

Sexist Broadcasters Ignore Sportswomen in today's torygraph

BelfastBloke · 10/02/2012 09:30

Today's Torygraph? Have we timetravelled?

cbem · 10/02/2012 11:18

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slug · 10/02/2012 12:27

cbem "popular" sport is almost inevitably the richest most marked sports and that is why it gets the media coverage.

Permit me to think you've been sucked in by the marketing because you seem incapable of making an argument that doesn't equate money with popularity.

cbem · 10/02/2012 14:29

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