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So, would you feel less married if gays were allowed full marriage rights?

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PointyLittleDonkeyEars · 04/12/2011 19:04

link here.

I'm not after a bunfight, just some honest opinions. I'm heterosexual, married almost 14 years and I would not feel that my marriage was devalued in any way if homosexual couples were allowed to marry. I feel that two people who love each other enough to commit for a lifetime should be allowed to do so in all the same ways that heterosexual couples are.

I'm also aware that there are people who feel quite differently, and I'd really like to know why. I just don't get it.

I've heard the arguments - the Bible-based ones, the ones based on procreation, the historical/traditional ones, and none of them make any sense. We are living in the year 2011, things change. We now have female priests in the C of E, women can vote, men can be midwives and nurses - the world has moved on. Why is this so bad?

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HarrietJones · 04/12/2011 19:05

No Hmm as far as I'm concerned a civil partnership/marriage are equal

Greythorne · 04/12/2011 19:06

No

ImpYCelynAndTheIvy · 04/12/2011 19:07

No. Don't like your thread title btw.

amerryscot · 04/12/2011 19:08

Marriage is between one man and one woman.

What is wrong with being satisfied with a civil partnership?

louby86 · 04/12/2011 19:08

Same sex marriage doesn't bother me in the slightest. If people are going to talk about devaluing marriage in my opinion that happens whether people are heterosexual or not, does cheating on or abusing your partner not devalue marriage more?

MudAndGlitter · 04/12/2011 19:08

Not at all. I'm all for gay marriage.

afishyweddingfairy · 04/12/2011 19:09

Not at all. I was having a think about this issue the other day and wondered why we don't just separate the church and state sides of marriage, much as they do on the continent. Everyone has to have a civil partnership and those who want a religious aspect also get married in a church. The legal aspect is the civil partnership, which everyone goes through, and the religious part would be similar to a blessing.

Or is that too simple?

AnnieLobeseder · 04/12/2011 19:09

A ridiculous concept. I'm baffled as to why some people care so much about how other people live their lives.

edam · 04/12/2011 19:09

No I am in favour of letting people do as they wish as long as it doesn't hurt anyone

grumplestilskin · 04/12/2011 19:09

no, I'm a catholic hetrosexual and I think future generations will either laugh or bawk at us for it even being an issue. Of course they should marry.

I wouldn't oppose them having Catholic marriages either but can't see that happening since sex in catholic marriage is meant to be in order to concieve?? but would never oppose it, would like to see at least blessings if not full catholic marriages for gay people who want them (and I know at least one who would)

In Ireland the same lot (probably) used to say the existance of divorce made good committed married couples somehow less married - what numpties!

motherinferior · 04/12/2011 19:10

Hmm. I am not hog whimpering wild about marriage per se, but if people want to do it - rather like joining the army, or the CofE - I suppose that I'm not going to exclude people on the basis of the gender they fall in love with...

mumwithdice · 04/12/2011 19:10

Of course not.

lotuseener · 04/12/2011 19:16

Not even the littlest bit. I remember my (very right-wing Christian) cousin blasting me on myspace (back when) for posting a very funny joke about Satan and gay marriage. I don't remember the joke but it was obviously pro gay marrige. He was outraged that I posted it and I remember very clearly him saying that marriage was God's holy union between one man and one woman. Fast forward a year later and cousin has an affair with his secretary while his wife is at home with their newborn which subsquently breaks up his marriage.

I believe marriage is as sacred and holy as the couple make it and believe it to be. Man and woman, man and man or woman and woman.

BeerTricksPotter · 04/12/2011 19:17

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FellatioNelson · 04/12/2011 19:19

It would not make the slightest bit of difference to me, or to how I feel about marriage as an institution.

weblette · 04/12/2011 19:20

Not in the slightest.

SandStorm · 04/12/2011 19:23

What other people do has no impact on my marriage so, no, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

DeeOfTheNorth · 04/12/2011 19:24

Wouldn't make any difference to me at all!

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PointyLittleDonkeyEars · 04/12/2011 19:29

Imp sorry - could have thought that through better.

Merryscot - but why should homosexual couples have to content themselves with something different? That's what I'm trying to get at - the reason why people think it is OK for a homosexual couple not to have exactly the same rights as a heterosexual couple. I haven't seen any reasons on the CIF forum that make sense to me, and I haven't seen any here either (though the consensus overall is pretty heartening).

It isn't about inheritance/next of kin/property rights, it is about the perception of the very special bond that marriage is to some people (obviously not everyone wants to get married). Why can't a homosexual couple have that?

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motherinferior · 04/12/2011 19:30

And then we could have civil partnerships for hets too, which would be nice.

Trills · 04/12/2011 19:31

As far as I'm concerned there should be one "thing" - call it marriage or call it a civil partnership - for everyone.

Trills · 04/12/2011 19:31

I'd be perfectly happy if the only legal thing was called a civil partnership - anyone who wants to get married as part of a religion can go off and do that, but the legal requirement would be to have a civil partnership done by a government official.

BurntToffee · 04/12/2011 19:36

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TadlowDogIncident · 04/12/2011 19:37

Nope, of course not. Am feeling very depressed this week at the Church of England getting it so wrong, yet again.

AitchTwoOh · 04/12/2011 19:37

i'd feel just as married as they would, presumably.

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