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I don't care if its the Daily Mail. Sitting here crying for this little boy (warning: distressing news story)

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PamBeesly · 03/12/2011 12:48

It just defies any instinct a person has to protect a newborn, what is wrong with the world.

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I'm sorry if this upsets anyone I'm just in shock at the cruelty

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AgentZigzag · 03/12/2011 13:23

So you think if people are upset about a one month old baby being sexually assaulted they should just sling a bit of money at the problem gordy?

People have a duty to read what happened to him, after all, he had to endure such things in his very short life.

Babies need warmth and love, and this little boy wasn't given the basic right to be cared for when he was at his most vulnerable.

I find it distasteful you're brushing off posters compassion as 'ambulance chasing'.

runningwilde · 03/12/2011 13:23

I think people should read this as whatever we feel is nothing, nothing compared to what that baby went through.

Those abusers (I was going to say animals but thaybis an insult to actual animals) deserve to die. I really think they do.

runningwilde · 03/12/2011 13:25

Out on bail?! Good God, please tell me that is not true

gordyslovesheep · 03/12/2011 13:25

People don;t see though - people will be baying for SS blood if it's found they knew the family - then it'll be hang em and shoot em and 'they are evil' and OMG and a shrine supported by The Sun and nothing will actually change until the next time

because people seem to care MORE about their own sense of outrage and posting about how sad they are than taking action

DaisyDaresYOU · 03/12/2011 13:26

That poor little baby,i really hope he makes a full recovery and given to a loving family.I still cry for a little girl named Tesslynn her abuse was so horrific I would never ever link her story,A part of me died reading that.These savage devils(i won't say animals I love animals( are beyond evil.

PamBeesly · 03/12/2011 13:27

they are out on bail? how?
I understand peoples horror and people saying don't link its too much and I also was wondering why DM had this as their main headline. But then I thought why keep this quiet? Like a poster said donate to NSPCC or volunteer, maybe when people see whats going on, the actual lived reality for some children they will be more inclined to do those things.
I still just can't understand, neither can I understand why they'd do that to the French boy or the little girl Tesslynn

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bibbitybobbitybloodyaxe · 03/12/2011 13:29

I feel the same as runningwilde. I cannot do anything for this poor baby except acknowledge what has happened to him by reading about it. I know that does not help him or me or anyone else, but I couldn't ignore it or hide on this occasion.

Birdsgottafly · 03/12/2011 13:29

The right to silence wasn't removed, so if there is a child death and both say nothing a case has to be built. If he dies there won't be a murder charge to face unless one of them breaks the silence.

Mrsrobertduvall · 03/12/2011 13:32

I work for the NSPCC actually Gordy.

DedalusDigglesPocketWatch · 03/12/2011 13:33

Can anyone answer my question? Or does someone else take the child to hospital, but if that was the case why didn't they step in before?

PamBeesly · 03/12/2011 13:38

I don't know and I don't understand either dedalus. I just don't know.

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marriedandwreathedinholly · 03/12/2011 13:38

Punishments need to start to fit the crime and prison should be extremely unpleasant where inmates are: cold, hungry and hard worked and where sentences are extended for failure to follow the rules rather than contracted for good behaviour.

bibbitybobbitybloodyaxe · 03/12/2011 13:39

The same thing is on my mind Dedalus but I do think it in poor taste to speculate. I just wanted to post my support for the baby and the people now caring for him, who will be extremely traumatised.

hifi · 03/12/2011 13:41

i wish i hadnt read it,poor poor child.

AgentZigzag · 03/12/2011 13:42

Do you think the media shouldn't report what goes on behind some closed doors gordy just in case we get into a frenzy of outrage that you'd find distasteful?

Apart from chucking a few coppers into a charity tin, what should people do when they hear about such cruelty?

I think it should be reported and shouted about everywhere, people should be outraged enough to post what they think.

The government should be left with no doubt about the disgust the public feel when they see how much SS are underfunded to force them to take action.

DedalusDigglesPocketWatch · 03/12/2011 13:42

That is fair enough Bibbity,

maypole1 · 03/12/2011 13:44

Birdsgottafly agree with you 100%

Anytime sone one on here starts a thread about their child being removed the posters take it at face value that ss are in the wrong even when their stories don't ring true

Even when members who are foster carers and lawyers point out that the ops stories are not correct and things don't work that way

We are all told we are in cahots with ss who are meeting some kind of quota

But this is really what lies behind the removal and abuse

Children being rapped by their own fathers,or pimped out by their mums

Children being scolded or left to fester in dirty flats with lice and dog shit

And all the liberals will cry why wasn't this child removed at birth and any one who works in or with ss will tell you to read the threads about ss thats why

PamBeesly · 03/12/2011 13:45

Also my heart goes out to the people who are caring for him, thanks to them the baby will feel some tenderness and I'm sure love too. I read that they are out on bail until the 8th of December too. I also read the baby is improving but is on life support.

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Zondra · 03/12/2011 13:45

Gordy- I am not normally a sentimental, mawkish type but, what I posted I really felt. I'm not the most prolific poster on here but, I just felt compelled to convey my sadness & outrage.

I feel offended by your suggestion that my reaction to this story is some kind of competitive ghoulish misery.

I know you'll probably not believe me but, I actually do have a £2 direct debit to the NSPCC that I set up 13 years ago. It's not much but, it's something.
By having this direct debit am I allowed to comment & feel outrage, have I "earned" the right to post what I feel?...

AgentZigzag · 03/12/2011 13:46

I think Peter Connolly was taken to the hospital lots of times wasn't he Dedalus? If it was only one of the people assaulting the DC, they may lie to and manipulate the other person into thinking it was an 'accident'?

Lots of murderers try that line, Jo Yeates murderer, and I think Ian Huntley said the same.

OriginalPoster · 03/12/2011 13:46

I hate the way the article has a 'like' button, it's the wrong word for stories like this.

People who do these things must be deeply disturbed and damaged. Poor child and also distressing for the people looking after him.

DedalusDigglesPocketWatch · 03/12/2011 13:52

It just seems so out of character? For
someone who thinks it is ok to do these things to suddenly try to help?

There really isn't a chance that he could ever be allowed back with them is there, even if they are not convicted?

coraltoes · 03/12/2011 13:54

Gordy how in gods name can you know what people on here do for children's charities and welfare? It is quite possible to be awfully upset by the cruelty AND donate to charities / work for them ...the two are not mutually exclusive.

DedalusDigglesPocketWatch · 03/12/2011 13:57

Surely you would only work for/ donate to a charity you felt passionate about?

Birdsgottafly · 03/12/2011 14:05

It isn't worth speculating what might or might not happen because we don't know the details.

The mother could be totally innocent in this.

It would be nice to think that people who commit child abuse are deeply deranged and i would like to think that only damaged individuals can commit these acts but it doesn't always prove t be the case. Look at the Nazi officers/soldiers/supporters who had 'normal' lives before and after the holocaust.