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Dale Farm travellers-where have they gone?

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Appuskidu · 19/10/2011 21:04

I presume, having looked at the news that most of the travellers have now actually left the site and it's mainly protesters/activists left. That'll be 80 traveller families on the move; where have they gone, has that been mentioned anywhere?!

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glasnost · 20/10/2011 12:57

No because noone cares, evidently.

How sad.

crazynannawitchbitch · 20/10/2011 12:59

Nobody really gives a shit. The "not in my back yard" attitude of the great tolerant Brits.
As a Brit...I hang my head in shame.

glasnost · 20/10/2011 13:06

Me too. OH but me not living there all year round I'm not allowed to comment apparently. (Ta CogitoErgoSometimes).

Rupert Murdoch, though, whose press mainly contributes to anti gypsy sentiment is perfectly free to do so even though he's a foreign national who lives in America. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Doesn't quite add up, does it?

They'll be shunted from pillar to post.

rycooler · 20/10/2011 13:20

I haven't really been following it tbh - I knew it didn't really interest me when I became obsessed with Paraic O'Brien ( London News reporter ) - he was reporting from Dale Farm for weeks and slowly started dressing more and more like the travellers. Made me laugh.

I hope they find somewhere suitable, but I'm a self confessed NIMBY.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 20/10/2011 13:40

Travellers who have already left the site will either be on other sites or will have gone back to places like Ireland. The work many of them do is seasonal & rural. When the season's over, they've always moved on. No-one keeps track of travellers' itineraries any more than they keep track of yours or mine.

TalkinPeace2 · 20/10/2011 17:26

Many of them own houses in Ireland.

I find it slightly surreal that "travellers" have fought so hard to stay put

those that have been on the site more than 15 years have probably stayed in the same place longer than many "settled" people.

needanewname · 20/10/2011 17:32

Thought I'd see you here bleating.again.

For what it's worth my local council are looking at 3 sites for travellers, one is totally inappropriate because of access issues, not sure what's happening with the other 2. (btw all are closeish to where I live). When I first heard I was a bit of a nimby but then realised that that was hugely unfair of me.

I am happy for anyone to come live near me, if they contribute to the local community and abide by the laws.

TalkinPeace2 · 20/10/2011 17:36

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glasnost · 21/10/2011 10:27

"Thought I'd see you here bleating.again."

needa? it's flattering that you're so fixated on me but, really, to address me and only me when there are other posters on here using the second person and not my username (or a witty mutation of it) is, well, strange.

Will leave you to think up a snidey risposte.

It's' actually quite a shame TalkinPeace2's posts have been deleted as at least he had the honesty to parade his anti ziganism for all to see. Unlike others who couch it in their hypocritical DM speak. Just call a spade a spade. They don't like gypsies and that's it. It has zilch to do with spurious planning permission. (Oh and needa? I'm not addressing you personally here. In fact I'm not addressing you at all.)

One of the few enlightened posters on the other Dale Farm thread asked the pro eviction types at one point whether they wanted the gypsies to vanish into thin air. Methinks they do.

Birdsgottafly · 21/10/2011 19:39

We were briefed in my L.A and particulary my department (children and family services) to be prepared for them, some time ago, as we are close by a ferry port and major links. I suppose others where also.

We are advised on traveller culture and to be sensitive to that, not that they may need our services but they are available if wanted/needed.

They are entitled to privacy but the children and vulnerable will be catered for, if they need to be. Traveller culture can be very insular.

TalkinPeace2 · 21/10/2011 21:48

which version thereof - roma or irish - they are quite different

razors · 21/10/2011 21:49

Probably back to their big houses in Ireland

TalkinPeace2 · 21/10/2011 21:52

razors
be careful saying that
I was accused of being a racist and had a total of 15 posts pulled for similar views

SansaLannister · 21/10/2011 21:53

Who cares?

TalkinPeace2 · 21/10/2011 21:57

sansa
I care because my council - which is making HUGE cuts at the moment - regularly spends large amounts on traveler education, housing, benefits and cleanups
if they want to stay in one place then they should do it legally
if they want to travel then they should do so in a self sufficient manner
is that too much to ask?

SansaLannister · 21/10/2011 22:00

I doubt they'll do it legally, though. That would mean you can't just rock up someplace and not pay for it.

razors · 21/10/2011 22:03

As I'm Irish descent can I be racist against Irish people? The Sheridans are well known in Limerick and they own lots of property there - it's a fact I'm afraid.

Sevenfoldedbloodybodies · 21/10/2011 22:06

I do wonder where they have gone, I know some moved on to the legal part of the site, but what about the rest. I also wonder what will happen to the land they were on, I thought they owned it, so how can it be turned back to what ever it was before??

Ariana86 · 22/10/2011 01:39

To me it is wrong to evict people after ten years when they are well settled - the kids have lived most of their lives at dale farm. If people are to be evicted it should be done asap not years later.

banana87 · 22/10/2011 03:02

Who bloody cares? Good riddance.

needanewname · 22/10/2011 07:43

Glasnost you really do think rather highly if yourself don't you. Only the first sentence was aimed at you and I think you'll find that you were the one changing names, not wittily though unfortunately.

raspberryroop · 22/10/2011 13:33

Travelling?

onagar · 22/10/2011 13:45

Sevenfoldedbloodybodies they do own the land - having got it cheap because it was known in advance that there was virtually no chance of getting planning permission.

At one point they complained that they wouldn't have bought the land if they had known. The council offered to buy it back from them as a gesture of good will, but they asked for 6 million for it even though they only paid a fraction of that.

Ariana86 I wish it had been done sooner but it wasn't neglect on the council's part. Every time they told them to go they came up with a new appeal. The council and courts did the moral thing and allowed every objection on the Traveller's part to be explored before finally moving them.

LydiaWickham · 22/10/2011 13:54

Well, I read before the eviction that some had quietly taken the council up on their rehoming offer, and are now in council properties.

According to the daily fail (who never lie Hmm ) about a dozen families went to Luton.

As others have said, the other families have either gone to properties they own in Ireland, or moved to other travelling sites. The down side of that is that they aren't in a set location and therefore can't access schools and health services easily.

A number of local farmers have been baracading their land to avoid travellers just travelling a few miles down the road, and I know a farming family in Kent who have said that all the local farms have blocked access routes after a rumour the travellers were moving in their direction. It's sad that the length of time the Dale Farm evicition process has carried on for has meant that people who might have accepted travellers for a few months (particiularly if they needed extra help on their farms) are now to scared to allow them to stay, fearing it will be years rather than weeks before they'd get the land back.

QueenofJacksDreams · 22/10/2011 13:58

Bloody hell, I presume most of you bitching about the travellers wouldn't say this sort of thing about Black people or Asians would you? So what the fuck gives you the right to say it about another people? Selective racism.