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Les Tricoteuses - Part Deux

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BornSicky · 19/07/2011 15:56

new thread to discuss phonehacking scandal.

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Ponders · 21/07/2011 19:18

hehhehheh

From the Graun blog again:

'James Murdoch's account to the Commons culture select committee about his involvement in agreeing the out-of-court settlement with the former head of the Professional Footballers' Association, Gordon Taylor, was "mistaken", according to a statement issued by former News of the World editor Colin Myler and former News international legal manager Tom Crone.

The statement says:
Just by way of clarification relating to Tuesday's CMS Select Committee hearing, we would like to point out that James Murdoch's recollection of what he was told when agreeing to settle the Gordon Taylor litigation was mistaken.
In fact, we did inform him of the "for Neville" email which had been produced to us by Gordon Taylor's lawyers.

The Neville referred to in the statement is Neville Thurlbeck, the paper's former chief reporter. In 2009, documents passed to the culture committee revealed that he read transcripts of 35 hacked telephone messages between Gordon Taylor and Jo Armstrong, a legal advisor at the PFA.

They were sent in an email to the private investigator Glenn Mulcaire by an unnamed junior reporter on the paper on 29 June 2005. In the email, the reporter says "Hello, this is the transcript for Neville". The committee was told by Guardian reporter Nick Davies this was Neville Thurlbeck.

At the select committee hearing on Tuesday, James Murdoch told Labour MP Tom Watson that he was not aware of the email when he signed off the payment to Taylor:
Mr Watson: James ? sorry, if I may call you James, to differentiate?when you signed off the Taylor payment, did you see or were you made aware of the full Neville e-mail, the transcript of the hacked voicemail messages?
James Murdoch: No, I was not aware of that at the time.
Mr Watson: But you paid an astronomical sum, and there was no reason to.
James Murdoch: There was every reason to settle the case, given the likelihood of losing the case and given the damages?we had received counsel?that would be levied.'

Terribletriplets · 21/07/2011 19:23

C4 news now. Disputing JM's account of the Taylor payout.

Terribletriplets · 21/07/2011 19:24

Not C4, BBC24.

Ponders · 21/07/2011 19:27

It's transparent to the rest of us - why do they not realise?

Ponders · 21/07/2011 19:33

previous post was timed at 6.47 on the blog - now this:

'7.15pm: John Whittingdale, chairman of the Commons select committee, has told my colleague Patrick Wintour that he will be recalling James Murdoch to explain the statement issued tonight by Colin Myler and Tom Crone.
Whittingdale said:
We as a committee regarded the For Neville email as one of the most critical pieces of evidence in the whole inquiry. We will be asking James Murdoch to respond and ask him to clarify.'

BornSicky · 21/07/2011 19:40

Can I please have some bingo points?

Just to clarify, I'd like 800k of bingo points :)

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ThisIsANiceCage · 21/07/2011 19:42

Oh well done.

It was a very very very stupid thing to do to cut all those people loose.

ThisIsANiceCage · 21/07/2011 19:43
ThisIsANiceCage · 21/07/2011 19:52

7.25pm: "James Murdoch stands by what he told the select committee about the Gordon Taylor settlement, according to a statement by News Corp."

Ponders · 21/07/2011 19:53

are you Matt Driscoll, BornSicky? Wink

Terribletriplets · 21/07/2011 19:55

Where is Matt Driscoll?

LucaBrasi · 21/07/2011 20:03

Interesting how NI deals with competition

"In July 1999, two brothers called George and Richard Rebh, the founders of a small start-up company called Floorgraphics, were invited to lunch with the dominant firm in their new area of business. The brothers were excited: they had invented a new product that involved sticking giant adverts on the floors of supermarkets, and were keen to show it off to the market leaders and talk about possible joint promotions.

They met the two top executives from the big firm, News America Marketing, in a Cantonese restaurant called A Dish of Salt in midtown Manhattan. Over hors d'oeuvre, News America's chief executive Paul Carlucci said: "So, I understand you're here to sell your company?"

According to transcripts of a trial that took place 10 years after the lunch, the Rebh brothers were astonished. No, they replied, they only wanted to talk about working together and had no intention of selling. George Rebh told the jury that Carlucci then said: "From now on, consider us your competitor and understand this: if you ever get into any of our businesses, I will destroy you. I work for a man who wants it all, and doesn't understand anybody telling him he can't have it all." News America is owned by News Corporation, whose chief executive is Rupert Murdoch."

www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/21/phone-hacking-news-corporation

ThisIsANiceCage · 21/07/2011 20:04

In other happy news, Charlie Brooks is "disappointed" the police haven't yet returned his laptop - but remains confident that, once they have established the bag is his, it will be returned to him.

"Police have been in touch and have asked for the passwords," he confirmed (still from Guardian blog).

Priceless!

Old Bill: Yes sir, certainly sir. Now we just need your password to verify that this is indeed your property.
Charlie: Oh of course officer, the password's £$£^£&$%. I'll just pop by and collect the laptop now, shall I?

Ponders · 21/07/2011 20:08

That's the one I linked to at 1553, Luca Smile

Hacking is VERY VERY NOT TO BE CONTEMPLATED in the US...& yet...

'The unauthorised access of the firm's computer from a News America address became the subject of a 2005 FBI and US secret service investigation. The outcome of those inquiries is not known'

WTF?

LucaBrasi · 21/07/2011 20:09

I'm getting a headache with all the information. Hope Mrs Wumman, the police person tasked with dealing with this, has a big brain and a well honed fan (and not balls) to deal with it.

Ponders · 21/07/2011 20:10

\link{http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012lkzm\Radio 4 right now}

he just spoke to beige suit man Paul McMullan

fascinating

LucaBrasi · 21/07/2011 20:13

Ponders It might well be where I got the link, apologies if so. I am caving under the data and so is my laptop.

Looking forward to Question Time tonight. Anyone know who is on?

BornSicky · 21/07/2011 20:15

Ponders, I'm afraid that confidentiality agreements mean that i am unable to reply fully.

Can I refer you to the great straight talking Donald rumsfeld'd excellent phrase for such circumstances.. there are known unknowns... Etc

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AwesomePan · 21/07/2011 20:16

god, I am so behind on all of this! Working f/t means I miss out. On tv channels "Breaking News" trail lines should be connected straight to this thread!

Ponders · 21/07/2011 20:16

oh don't worry Luca, we've had lots of the same links repeated - we are all caving under an information overload! Grin)

Cressida Dick was i/c of the operation that killed De Menezes which doesn't bode well Hmm

LucaBrasi · 21/07/2011 20:18

Thanks for that ponders, have it on now

LucaBrasi · 21/07/2011 20:23

Judge stopped trial re Gordon Brown hacking?

Did I hear that right?

Ponders · 21/07/2011 20:25

oh dear, I'm not listening with both ears, I don't know

will have to listen again when not doing 2 or 3 other things at the same time...

BornSicky · 21/07/2011 20:35

crumbs, Myler and Crone are standing by their statement that James Murdoch DID know about the "For Neville" email, which proves that Murdoch lied to the Select Committee on two counts: the sum and make up of the Taylor payoff settlement and that he didn't know that Thurlbeck was involved. Rogue reporter defence is now officially as sunk as the Titanic.

Thankee Guardian for the latest news.

In other news, I found a bag today containing a huge pile of papers.. well, when I say found, I mean that it was in a bin bag outside Harbottle and Lewis' offices... (why don't they accidentally do that??)

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AwesomePan · 21/07/2011 20:41

I have had a thought for a new game, besides the 'bingo'.

Can we play a version of 'haiku'? The Japanese poem form, where you can only use 3 lines. ( formally it also speaks of a syllable disciple, but that could be really too challenging...
and relate the haiku to 3 lines of dialogue, an instigator, the reply, and a response from the instigator. Sooo.. for eg.

RM: This is the most humbling day of my life
JM: Hang on, shouldn't that have been the day I was born?
RM: Well son, it was, until you landed me in all of this shit, which I hoped you would have been better at shovelling aside. Did I teach you nothing?

or..

DC: we had no conversation about BSkyB which was inappropriate.
RW: Hang on, what about that time in your kitchen at Christmas over the egg nog?
DC: When I said then that "we were all in this together".....

Of course they all don't have to be as bitingly funny....Hmm

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