Hoare found dead - not suspicious like David Kelly

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Sean Hoare became the first of his former colleagues to go on the record in denouncing Coulson has allegedly been found dead at home according to Guardian
www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-world-sean-hoare

He was in the process of dumping murdoch in it in the states.

I hope they do a decent job on the forensics.

yes

he has the foulest breath known to man....but somehow just looking at him you'd guess that.

Nancy, I am confident Coulson is happy and relieved at Andy's death. Frankly it suits him legally. As for being friends - that means nothing to Coulson. He would ruin good peoples lives with the trash he gave the ok to publish at the NOTW. He is ruthless.

bkgirl - sorry, but you really don't know what you're talking about.

bkgirl, I don't think that is fair. I am sure that Coulson will be very sad at Sean's death.

How can anyone come on here and challenge a person who says they knew Sean H very well? Its just bloody rude, above all else.

The first thing I said when I found out about his death was how ill he looked on that programme.

Have just been reading about the connection between Jonathan Rees, alleged to have had Daniel Morgan murdered with an axe in 1987 with help from bent police, and Andy Coulson. The detective investigating the murder case and the police corruption that hampered the original investigation had his phone hacked by News International. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8633453/Phone-hacking-axe-murder-detective-to-sue.html

This thing just gets more and more sleazy the closer you look. If it reminds me of anything, it's The Godfather.

yes, Godfather is the best analogy. There is the Don and some corrupt acolytes. There are threats, hacking and fear of the Don.

Beccabop, I don't think it's a matter of being rude. I think it is unreasonable to say any potential witness/suspect in a case which has billion dollar implications who suddenly dies has to be regarded as suspicious. Frankly the police have acted unprofessionally by saying his death was not suspicious prior to a full autopsy/toxicology reports.

I have no idea how well Nancy knew Sean but other friends did seem to have a higher opinion of him.

A very good friend of mine had a serious drink/drug problem and literally ended up in a gutter at his worst. However, when he sorted himself out (with the support of his best friends) he did his literary work with immense skill and commendation (you can buy his books in decent bookshops).

My point is I would never speak about him the way Nancy has about Sean. People like Jon Snow (channel 4) and Matthew Wright have been far more gracious about the man and his courage for speaking up. I really hope his good friends come forward and tell us the truth about his final days and any assumed aspersions are challenged. Incidentally Nancy as a former NOTW employee, I am not that surprised you would be inclined to discredit the man.

To speak ill of the dead is not nice. To accuse Hoare of simply chasing after money is pretty shocking, given the risks he was taking. He was blowing the whistle on extremely serious police corruption, after all.

do posters know who nancy66 is in RL? Her/his posts are being taken pretty much as gospel here.

I've spent the last two days talking to old friends about Sean - there is a lot of love and affection for him but also the knowledge that he was a very troubled soul.

I've spoken truthfully of him, not badly. I liked the guy, i'll miss him.

However it's just plain crazy to suggest he was a big or key player in any of this - he really really wasn't.

I agree Hummingbirds and okay I have not read enough about this, but I did read Sean Hoare had been through re-hab and was not getting paid for this.

Anyway, it is sad he has died and may he R.I.P.

Yeah I thought Nancy66 had been speaking truthfully rather than smearingly (is that a word...?)

bkgirl youre being very forward!! What if youre wrong?

Thanks Nancy for your response. I have no idea either about the value of his information nor indeed his credibility when he would hit a court stand. However, he certainly was relevant for the enquiries as one of the few whistleblowers to come forward and not under a confidentiality agreement with NOTW.Only a court could seriously judge as to what value he would have had. I worked in broadcasting myself some years ago and have friends in the business who lets just say 'hung out' with him. I expect to catch up next time I am in London....funny but no-one wants to say too much these days on the phone. :)

Nancy I am really intrigued, do you really think Sean made up all his allegations and/or that somehow NI/NOTW did not use hacking in a serial basis?

Hermoine, maybe I am just sticking up for a dead man who some believe displayed amazing courage.Anyway, I think a court should be able to judge his worth/value to the investigation. Frankly, my uninformed opinion or indeed anyone who wasn't with the man in recent days is just kind of irrelevant.

No offence actually meant to anyone.

@ CQrrrneee: agree :)

This whole story is beginning to sound more and more fantastical. Make of this what you will:

'Another former Fox News senior executive, who did not wish to be named, said staff were forced to operate under conditions reminiscent of ?Russia at the height of the Soviet era?.

?There is a paranoid atmosphere and they feel they are being watched,? said the former executive. ?I have no doubt they are spying on emails to ensure no one is leaking to outside media.

?There is a unit of spies that reports up to the boss about who was talking to whom. A lot of people are scared that they?re going to get sidelined or even that they?re going to get killed.?'

Rupert Murdoch's Fox News ran 'black ops' department, former executive claims