God, those NoW journos were utter scum weren't they?

[headfairy]

apparently by deleting Milly's messages her family still had some hope that she might still be alive

just to clarify what i meant about types of hackees - i'd be hard pushed to want to bang up hackers who uncovered dodgy dossiers or mp's expenses

from what i understand, the mail and sun are the two most influential papers in the country, one broadly marshalling the working class and the other the middle-ish. middle-ish more likely to vote therefore politicians absolutely desperate to keep in with the mail.

and every newspaper i have worked for over the last fifteen years or so has at some point said to me 'can you make it more Mail-y?', such is there influence over their peers.

it really is huge, tbh. and not to be under-estimated.

I am surprised that that table has not been more visible during the reporting of this

it was on newsnight the other night, albeit briefly. tbh it's been in the public domain for the last five years, i think no-one gave a shit cos they thought it was all Sienna Miller and dodgy politicians. ( i know i didn't).

The more I read the more I feel the whole country has been ruled by murdoch and co. Switching political allegiance over night and taking lots of sun readers with them! Shocking really and now surely needs regulation. It is ok saying GB was under the NI spell too but if we let this go we are really saying that anyone can be bought and there is and was NO ONE in the whole of govt/police who was prepared to put their neck on the line for common decency.

nick davies, tom watson... tbh tom watson was being treated as a bit of a joke until a fortnight ago but in fact he has been most heroic.

No wonder Tom Watson was being treated as a bit of a joke. No better way of sidelining him.

anyone watching the select committee hearing? john yeates is not doing well at all and for a change they are hammering him.

apparently he didn't take legal advice during the 8 hours he spent reviewing the 11,000 documents to decide whether any further charges could/should be brought.

what an absolutely useless individual.

Just watching the police on sky news Unwittingly seems to be 'word of the day'

yeates is about to be presented with an enormous list of people believed to have been hacked to see if yeates will admit to having read or seen any of the names.

yeates says it's the first time he's seen any of these names!!

oh dear god, was he looking at the documents with sunglasses on in a windowless room with no lights on?

ICO report is now getting an airing. yeates doesn't seem to think they're related...

NoddyHolderUnwittingly seems to be 'word of the day' yes I agree closely followed by "with hindsight" .......

He's got to resign now, surely. Yeates I mean?

absolutely, but it was his colleagues treating him as a joke as well, remember.

at bornsicky - yup and his copies of the documents were written in invisible ink

YY, I'm sure it was all the baying mob.

anyone for a round of phone hacking bingo?

10 pts for unwittingly
10 pts for "with hindsight"
5 pts for apology
25 pts for "consider your/his/her position"

100 pts per resignation
250 pts per arrest

the people who have plugged away at this really are amazing, given the resistance, imo.

araz agree that lots of people have been portrayed as goons/biased so no-one pays attention to them - typical tab strategy.

bornsicky just don't try the drinking game version - that could get messy

yeates: "the public should be reassured that the met are reviewing"

gubbins

also aitch i agree with you regarding the mail-isation of the news agenda, but i would guess Dacre makes appointments to see the PM of the day, which are arranged in a prompt and efficient way, rather than having a key to the back door of No 10 that enables him to rock up and shout the odds iykwim...

true, teej, very true. that was AMAZING, i thought.

amazing that he went in the back door to see Cammo, i mean.