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Ryan Dunn from Jackass is dead.

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pretentiouswasteoftime · 21/06/2011 05:24

Reeling from the news this morning - just so shocked. Sounds like he lost control of his car. Another person who was a passenger is dead too. Sad

Poor families of both - just horrible.

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AnyFucker · 21/06/2011 14:37

I think any pointless and preventable death is very sad for the families left behind

I am however, thankful that if he was drink-driving that he wasn't near any of my own family/friends, nor anyone else's

P0rtBlacksandResident · 21/06/2011 14:38

Drink Driving is one of the very few things i wheel my soap box out for tbh. xstargirl - you didn't know him at all - why so defensive?

GwendolineMaryLacey · 21/06/2011 14:39

Talking of soapboxes, would you be up on yours if his car had hit you and your children? No, thought not. He made a choice to do what he did. He paid the consequences. I feel sympathy for his family but none for him. If that makes me "sick" then I'll live with Rather that than hero-worshipping drunk drivers.

AnyFucker · 21/06/2011 14:42

I have zero tolerance for drink driving too

I don't give a shit who does it, it is preventable and wrong, full stop

CogitoErgoSometimes · 21/06/2011 14:47

I knew a young lad who died in a motorbike accident. He was recklessly speeding through a busy town centre on a Saturday night showing off to his mates, pulling wheelies, hit a car, and even his own mother admits he was acting like a tit when it happened

Sympathy for the bereaved is not inconsistent with pointing out that their loved one died in a needlessly reckless fashion. Stick drink driving in the mix and the sympathy fades very quickly. Not 'sick' at all...

differentnameforthis · 21/06/2011 14:49

if your son did the same, I bet you wouldn't want people saying the things you're saying, now would you?

No, I would not. But I couldn't prevent it. People have their opinions & will voice them, regardless of who he was. The fact is, he was doing not one, but 2 stupid things. Drinking. Speeding. I have said previously that I feel sympathy for his family. No, he didn't deserve to die, but what if he hadn't died, but killed a car full of kids? They wouldn't have deserved it either.

And calling his a legend is careless. People tend to try & emulate legends.

I don't approve of speeding and/or drink driving. Both have the potential to kill innocent people. My dh got a speeding ticket the other week, no cars on the road, 3am on way to work, clear road, didn't see the (new) speed change sign...he got caught doing 7 over the limit & I tore him a new one. Why? Well what if I was on that road with my kids in the car? And that 7kph meant that he couldn't stop in time, or if someone/thing shot out in front of him & he had to take evasive action, and ended up hurt etc....

Sorry no excuse.

xStarGirl · 21/06/2011 15:07

I give up. I'm not being "defensive". You all proved my point, which I was elaborating on. And because of your collective zero-tolerance stance on drink-driving, it's not likely we'll ever agree, for reasons I really don't want to go into.

I wouldn't have said Ryan was a "hero" or a "legend". He seemed like a nice enough guy in interviews and stuff, and he was funny, but that's it. You don't have to hero-worship someone to be sad they're dead, you know.

I'm not on a soapbox (I hope Confused) about anything - I just think it's wrong to make judgements on a situation where you don't have all the facts, and to just assume based on your perception of a person. Remember - we have no proof of anything, it's all conjecture and hearsay anyway, which is why I'm so pissed off by all these comments - it's mostly assumptions based on an outsider's view of someone's public persona.

There's a lot more I want to say, but I can't articulate it through irritation, and I'm going to hide this thread because it's just winding me up. Maybe I'm just too soft, but I at least look for the good in people, rather than instantly assuming the worst. Which you've all done.

DingleDangleDiva · 21/06/2011 15:08

Just because he did'nt mean anything to you does not mean he did'nt mean anything to others!

Excuse me if I am using the wrong terminology but I am 24 and grew up with the term legend being someone you thought was cool or you admired (slang term I know), Ryan and Bam were always the invincible duo and funnily enough Ryan 'Well' Dunn was the only one who seemed to have any sanity left, maybe it was just us but in my circle of friend's we loved the whole idea of being wreckless and yes we did have a few injusries mishaps copying stunts but it was fun at the time :o

I am not syaing that drink driving is ever acceptable but I don't think that it should define who a person was, he spent many years doing other stuff and looked set to become even bigger and fior me it is sad that he won't get the chance.

DingleDangleDiva · 21/06/2011 15:11

stargirl I'll set up a shrine in the corner with you :o

AnyFucker · 21/06/2011 15:21

xstar...are you saying you don't have zero tolerance on drink driving ?

it would be best if you didn't go into the reasons why that might be actually, because I can't think of any that are anywhere near acceptable, tbh

did I misunderstand you ?

mayorquimby · 21/06/2011 15:21

"Ryan and Bam were always the invincible duo and funnily enough Ryan 'Well' Dunn was the only one who seemed to have any sanity left, maybe it was just us but in my circle of friend's we loved the whole idea of being wreckless and yes we did have a few injusries mishaps copying stunts but it was fun at the time "

As did I. It's sad that he's gone, he's the only one who didn't seem to become a bit of an insufferable prick due to the fame out of the original crew. always seemed like a nice guy.

GwendolineMaryLacey · 21/06/2011 15:25

I would have thought that this kind of behaviour was pretty near prickishness, wouldn't you?

But as long as he made good tv eh?

thumbwitch · 21/06/2011 15:27

Sad that he's died.
Shit that it appears to be a DUI death, whoever was driving.
Drink driving just causes misery and accidents and people sometimes die - everyone needs to remember that, including stunt people.

DingleDangleDiva · 21/06/2011 15:47

Gwendoline he made one VERY prickish mistake but it does'nt take away from the fact that he entertained millions of people for more than a decade!

No one is justifying DUI but it is not what he should be remembered for and I will say it again I am sure in his last moments he realised what he had done to himself and Zachary, if the reports are correct he would possibly have seen his friend dead whilst he himself burnt to death... I think that's punishment enough without people wiping out all the good stuff he did don't you?

:(

AnyFucker · 21/06/2011 15:51

I don't think anyone is "wiping out" anything

lockets · 21/06/2011 15:55

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P0rtBlacksandResident · 21/06/2011 15:56

Lol at us oldies not understanding the youth term "legend" (i am saying that in a Bill and Ted style voice btw)

There is no tolerance other than zero to be had about drunk driving surely? Confused

DingleDangleDiva · 21/06/2011 16:02

AF it seems like everyone (not just here) thinks he must've been a prick because of an epic failure at one point in his life, again yes it was stupid BUT he did a lot more in his life than die!

There is never an excuse for drink driving, it's something I don't agree with at all but I don't judge those who do it on that one mistake.

Maybe it's just a bit raw but I have never known anyone to call him a prick in life so it seems disrespectful to do it in death :(

DingleDangleDiva · 21/06/2011 16:04

Port that's not what I meant Blush it was meant more as a 'where I come from' and explaining why I used that term of phrase :o

glammapuss · 21/06/2011 16:04

So you think this was the only time he got behind the wheel under the influence Hmm

AnyFucker · 21/06/2011 16:05

I think people are blaming the action (of the drink driving, if that turns out to be the case) not the whole of the man himself

you know, when you say you don't like the naughty actions of your child, but you still like the child

if that makes sense, I didn't explain it very well

DingleDangleDiva · 21/06/2011 16:14

Glammapuss I know it was'nt the first time he had done it but it stilldoes'nt make him a bad person because I don't know the full details of his conviction.

My tep dad has a conviction of DUI because he was slightly over the limit, thankfully no-one was injured then.

He was very stupid to do it yes but it does'nt make him a bad person, stupid maybe but not bad.

glammapuss · 21/06/2011 16:20

Granted, we don't know the full facts though I would doubt someone downing shots hours before would be only slightly over the limit.

TBH I think it does make you a bad person. You know you shouldnt be driving but chose to anyway despite carrying a passenger and sharing the roads with other innocent people.

My thoughts are with the families, what a waste :(

DingleDangleDiva · 21/06/2011 16:26

My argument is though alcohol changes you, some people become loud, abnoxious, emotional, brave and unfortunately in this case he seemed to think he was invincible as did both of his friends when they chose to hitch a ride with a man who was intoxicated whether it was 1 pint or 12.

Like I say I totally agree at that point in time yes he may have been an ass but it was'nt who he was generally.

AnyFucker · 21/06/2011 16:44

I think it is a bad thing to do

there is a distinction, I think

when people do bad things, there are bad consequences (sometimes straight away, sometimes not)

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