Little girl with cerebral palsy to be deported

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www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/9032978.Deporting_little_girl_will_kill_her__family_say/?ref=mm

Such a sad story, hopefully with enough exposure she will be able to stay.

"I know it's easy for me because I know her, but please try to see her as a little girl, not a 'statistic' and look beyond the wider issues to what it will
mean to her if she is sent back." but the thing is every child is someone's child who is known to others personally. As outsiders it is easier to think more objectively about this as opposed to emotionally.

Her parents abused her tourist visa. She came over here as restbit for her parents and simply didn't go back. You said on the other thread that no-one thought her visa wouldn't be extended. Sorry but I don't believe that. Presumably the uncle is algerian (you said the aunt is british) so will have at some point have been (legitimately) through the imigration process. They knew the score and decided to take a chance. And while their motives are understandable it doesn't make it right.

green....how can you state that you know her mother?? her mother isnt her in uk is she??

or is she?

It depends on your definition of mother.

If you mean birth mother then I do not know her. She is in Algeria and has no interest in relocating to the UK. She has agreed to her birth child being adopted by Jo because she cannot care for her, thus relinquishing any rights over the child (which would also mean she could not use the child as a way of getting in to the UK at some future stage because once an adoption goes through she is deemed in law to be of no relation to the child).

The person I know is the woman who mothers Rania on an hour by hour, day by day, month by month, year by year basis. I refer to the only mother Rania knows, the one who is in the process of adopting her to formalise her role as mother.

So you know her Aunt - why not say that ? The rest of the emotional rant is unessential and distracting from the real debate. I feel for her on a personal level but am fed up of health tourism - which I am not convinced this isn't or even initially wasn't.

Jesus, I can't believe how selfish some people are.

I feel sorry for her but....let her die. Lovely.

here is the latest on the petition - 1500 in the last few hours

www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/districtnews/districtatog/9036332.1_500_people_back_fight_to_stop_sick_girl_being_deported/

it says she was brought here to get 'specialist private help'.....did she get that?

Her family have already run up huge debts paying for her treatment including lumbar punctures, intensive care stays etc from when her epilepsy first started and it was realised that her medical needs were much greater than first thought

People saying about cost of letting a CHILD stay with a family that love and care and want her .

Yet think all the people we let stay .The illegal immigrant who knocked over and killed a child but yet his human rights he was allowed to stay as he had fathered a child since then .
the people that are considered high risk of terroism and are on several watch lists

Surely when you look at a young child and consider what it will mean for her to be returned
.Well some of you must had a compassionate bypass.

I am also friends of this family and it saddens me to read some of the comments on this thread.

Moussa has indeed been through the immigration process. He did it all as he should and now works and pays his taxes for this country.

Algeria views disability in a different light to the UK (which I know is no different from other countries). Rania would be shut in a room away from the public, as children such as her should not be seen. She would have no education as the government does not see it right to spend money on a child like her. She will have no access to the medications she needs to keep her alive.

Faced with these prospects, if your sister asked you to care for her child and give her the best life her limitations will allow, what would you do?

Jo and Mo have followed everything to the letter. They have spent enormous amounts of money over the last few years, in their fight to keep Rania. The adoption process is long and drawn out, with little means to hurry it up.

I have watched Rania have seizure after seizure - something that Algerians look upon as possession. I have watched Rania stop breathing. To Jo and Mo it was just another one of those things. To my husband and I, it was something we lost sleep over.

Her birth mother is prepared to give her up, because she wants Rania to have a better life. That must be one of the most difficult and heart wrenching decisions any mother could come to.

I am a parent of two- maybe three, awaiting outcome of assessment (though I really know it's 3) disabled chidlren and we don;t get half of what we need, no SSD resources at all.

I consider that irrelevant tbh. This girld needs help and now. We as a country can afford to help this child. It's nto about every disabled person in the world; it's about her.

'?She will not survive in Algeria.

She has epilepsy. People there still believe that is possession.? '

Surely we have a system that can tell between a person trying it on for immigration status and a small child who will otherwise die? Don't we? Because as a country, I thought we were better than this.

Oh and Maypole aahs stated on another thread (procuts) that benefits hould be zero and anyone who cannot work should starve.

Just so people know the background to that particular opinion.

Poor form? yes. And?

"Because as a country, I thought we were better than this."

Absolutely!!

from the way it reads, they haven't even gone to appeal court yet? is that right?

sadly it's the appeal that's been turned down. as I understand it, that's pretty much the end of the road apart from this last chance of raising as much awareness and publicity as possible

has this happened before then,where an appeal has worked?

sorry,not an appeal,i mean the awareness/publicity etc...

"Faced with these prospects, if your sister asked you to care for her child and give her the best life her limitations will allow, what would you do?"

But that isn´t what happened, is it?

She came over as a visitor & hasn´t gone back.

I think that the fact that her stay has been extended for such a time that she has been away from her parents for longer than with them is dreadful.

But she's in the process of adoption isn;t she?

So tehy did give her up for a better life, surely?

But they didn´t "give her up"-she came for a visit & is still in UK.

Not sure when the adoption process was started.

Wouldn´t it have been more "usual" for the adoption to have taken place first?

there's more on this story tonight on granada news for those of you in the north west

raniamuststay they want her to live just don't want her right also maybe the reason they cannot cope is because they keep having more children.

Cannot get adoption going unless she is legal in the uk plus it might be a ploy to get the visa then all talk of adoption will stop.

Also their is no grantee ss will approve such adoption

this little girl has done nothing wrong, she knows the UK and her guardians as her parents - the people who care for her and love her. I couldn't take her to the airport and put her on that plane - could you?

Suppose we should never have helped those children and women hurt in places like Iraq and Afghanistan or the women mutilated like the young girl who had her ears and nose cut off - sod them, tough luck - I'm all right Jack and all that.

but we're not 'alright jack' are we fastedwina? as a country we are having all sorts of things cut. NHS cuts are pretty harsh