World's largest paedophile ring uncovered

[Sleepwhenidie]

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This is good news but am I the only one to be at 70,000 followers? These also apparently included teachers and police officers. Makes me much more paranoid than I am usually inclined to be.

Sorry, wrong link! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12762333

70,000 globally with investigations in 30 countries, to put it into perspective. Good policework, though.

Excellent police work but what now? I wonder how many will end up walking free from court or getting pathetic sentences. And going forward, if 70,000 in just one ring have been found, how many more are out there. I shudder at the thought.

I used to work for the police and a member of staff was arrested last time there was a big ring uncovered (operation ore).

He had hundreds of images, including the most serious (grade 5 - I won't tell you what kind of images that includes).

He got a community rehabilitation order. His teacher girlfriend stood by him, then married him and had his child.

I've seen him on facebook and it makes my skin crawl.

Agree poncey, I hate the term child porn.

I was under the impression that possessing these images only got you a slap on the wrist as well. It's pathetic frankly.

Liggerscharter I don't think, no - I know, I could not stand by someone who did that.

Sorry, meant to ask too, what does a community rehab order involve?

SardineQueen: sentencing depends on the grading of the images. If you have Grade 5 images, it won't be a light sentence.

Just seen the ORE grade 5 post - realise my contradicts. Don't know how to account for discrepancy - unless that 5 was on the old scale and I'm thinking of the newer shorter one. Sorry for being confusing.

It's just being on a programme where you meet with someone who reviews you against certain goals. He had to go on a sex offenders rehabilitation course too.

He only signed the sex offenders register for 5 years so wouldn't be on it now

I know the images he had were of girls, and that the child he had was a boy - so hopefully his child isn't at risk. BUt how anyone could have a child with a man like that. I hope he hasn't had any more children...

This was in 2003 meditrina, I don't know if it's changed. He def had grade 5 though, I was good friends with the Det Sgt in charge of the case (who has subsequently died actually, so I can't get anyone in trouble by saying that) and I know what he had.

How on earth can anyone have a child with a known child abuser. Unbelievable. Could you really have any peace of mind?!

Maisy, I know.

No one could fathom it. I find it bizarre that teacher can be married to a convicted child sex offender and not consider a conflict there....

He pled guilty too, she can't possibly think he didn't do it. A lot of people wondered if she was involved too.

I shudder to think.

I don't know when the different versions of the COPINE were in use.

The long (10 point) scale 1-3 do not feature on short (5 point) scale. 4-6 became Level 1: 7 became level 2: 8 became level 3: 9 became level 4 and 10 became level 5.

Sentencing depends on the amount of images possessed/distributed etc and also the grading of them. Grade 1 being the "most minor" (if you can call any child abusive images minor) and Grade 5 being... well, horrendous quite frankly.

I dealt with a case and the guy got 5 years in prison for possession. A lot of his sentence was based on the quantity because he possessed mainly grade 1 and 2 images. He also pleaded guilty which would have chopped a lot of his sentence as well - so not always a slap on the wrist.

The amount of people involved in this seems to be increasing and it concerns me and makes me wonder..... Do you think it is possible for someone who has never had an inclination to see a child in this way to see an image and for it to spark something off in them for them to be inquisitive and look at further images? Does it awaken something in them that has been lying dormant,something which they never knew they had the capability of doing. And if so, had they never seen an image to trigger it, would they just carry on leading a normal life like the rest of us.

You hear of 'opportune' rapists, men who have never ever had feelings like this before you suddenly snap and rape just because an apportunity presented itself.

Accessibility is bound to increase the 'market' as it were. If someone can't view certain images because they are difficult to find they can't judge if they find them appealing. The way this trap operated - as I understand - was to invite members to join who then shared images. I don't think they were just 'passing traffic'...

I just dont understand this. surely all cultures/religions/moral codes/ societies agree that sex with kids is wrong. yet it seems that it happens everywhere.
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makes me ashamed to belong to the same species as these things

I wonder if the availability of these images is eroding the barriers that people put up for themselves.

I also imagine that with this as with other images on the internet there is a compulsion to seek out ever more extreme images. It happens with violent content and adult sexual content as well. People become desensitised. I do wonder if there is a situation where people who would never have looked in pre-internet days do so because it is there and easy, and whether what is depicted is getting worse as people get desensitised.

A sort of ever worsening cycle of god-awfulness.

I have no idea what you do about it.

There is also this idea that people are meeting on the internet and egging each other on - to exchange pics and maybe go over into real life. Before I think that people with these desires kept it to themselves. Now they are talking they are normalising it for each other.

Just awful.

I mean people always did awful stuff but they acted alone. When they are part of a whole community that has to make them more dangerous surely.

I just pray the authorities do a thorough investigation.

I hope they don't ruin people's lives like last time where they used flimsy evidence like the use of a credit card to pay as evidence of accessing child porn, not seemingly accounting for the idea that people have their cards and computers hacked all the time.

If I remember rightly, last time a couple of innocent people killed themselves through the pressure of false accusations and the trial by mob mentality which then followed.

When I read the news I was horrified by the fact that amongst the people involved in this paedophile ring where teachers, scout leaders and police officers: people, one should trust. Although relieved by the fact that this has been uncovered this is not the end of the story: the threat is still out there and it is not necessarily so far from home: it is not unknown of children being abused by family friends or close relations a child implicitly trust: BIG QUESTION: how do you protect your child this without turning paranoid???