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Amy Houston - 12-yr-old girl killed by illegal immigrant from Iraq who has now been granted permission to stay here

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Ponders · 16/12/2010 22:21

Apparently this hasn't been mentioned on MN before?

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Amy was killed in 2003. The driver who killed her, who had other criminal activity on his record, should have been deported years ago, but has repeatedly appealed against deportation, & now he has a family with a British woman (although he does not live with them) his deportation has been cancelled.

"his human rights would be impinged if he was sent back to Iraq"

oh, ok then

How is this acceptable, legally or morally?

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BadgersPaws · 17/12/2010 10:49

"but don't people have to be subjects of the queen? couldn't she say no to anyone?"

No and no.

As expat says not all people here are British Nationals.

And the Constitution has been worked out to give the Monarch no real powers, we do not want an unelected head of state to have any real power of this country.

bluecardi · 17/12/2010 10:52

It's so shocking. I feel so awful for the parents - their views should be taken into account.

Blu · 17/12/2010 10:52

No, we do not want an unelected head of state to have any such powers, surely!

tiredemma · 17/12/2010 10:54

I have to agree with expat. It would take every bit of self restrain to stop me from killing him.

expatinscotland · 17/12/2010 10:54

There's a strong resistance to victims having any say in the criminal justice system, blue.

And, at any rate, his claim to stay in the UK is not a criminal matter, obviously, the fact that he's a many-times convicted criminal didn't matter, either Sad.

bluecardi · 17/12/2010 10:55

blu - I was thinking along the lines of being a subject & her rejecting him as one. Surely she, or someone, could stand up & say it's not right

3littlefrogs · 17/12/2010 10:57

I listened to the child's father being interviewed on the radio last night. He was so dignified, it was heartbreaking.

It is truly shameful that the killer is allowed to stay here, with no consequences for what he did.

If that had been my daughter I would want to kill him with my bare hands.

bluecardi · 17/12/2010 10:57

what happens in other countries when an illegal immigrant is a criminal? do they keep them in comfort?

PaxoIsEvil · 17/12/2010 10:58

He got 4 months, and has been arrested for various crimes since. Utterly disgusting individual.

BadgersPaws · 17/12/2010 10:59

"I feel so awful for the parents - their views should be taken into account."

In the same way that we can't allow the Government to break the law then we can't allow the courts to break it either if they hear a sad enough story.

The solution is to look at the law and to ask the PM if he still stands by his promise.

BadgersPaws · 17/12/2010 11:01

"blu - I was thinking along the lines of being a subject & her rejecting him as one. Surely she, or someone, could stand up & say it's not right"

No, we want the unelected head of state to follow the law and not be able to ride rough shod over it when it takes her fancy.

LouCracker · 17/12/2010 11:42

Absolutely disgusting. This story makes me so angry.

blucardi - I think you have asked all the questions that I had. It's unbelievable and sickening that nothing can be done about this.

expatinscotland · 17/12/2010 11:55

ILR can be revoked. It was in the case of an Islamic extremist preacher who left the UK to visit Jordan. His ILR was revoked whilst he was out of the country.

This individual continues to offend and makes no attempt to reform his character.

I suppose an argument can be made - it probably already has - that he poses a continued danger to society.

How that didn't hold up I do not know.

QueenofDreams · 17/12/2010 12:06

I strongly believe that if you live abroad, you should live by the laws of that country. people who break the laws of thir new home should be deported. I am not a UK national, had a HELL of a time getting indefinite leave to remain, and have always scrupulously obeyed the letter of the law!

expatinscotland · 17/12/2010 12:08

I am a naturalised citizen who has never broken the law here or in my home country.

This man should be removed immediately.

The fact that he was not removed back in 2002 shows a real failure of the system here, IMO.

His application failed. His appeal failed. Job done.

sparkle1977 · 17/12/2010 12:10

This whole story is utterly outrageous and disgusts me frankly. I don't know what else I can add.

curlymama · 17/12/2010 13:59

If family life is so important to him, why can't he take his children back to Iraq with him? Or are there no children at all in Iraq at the moment?

This situation is disgusting, I cannot even begin to imagine how poor Amy's Father must feel.

agedknees · 20/12/2010 20:30

Surely he should have been given a sentance to reflect the serious of the crime?

To leave a child alone, dying after hitting her with a car you where not entitled to drive is, imo murder. He should have been convicted of murder, locked away, and the key thrown away.

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