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which one of you said it first?

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eandz · 07/12/2010 11:32

SA Honeymoon Couple

How horrible.

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ItalianLady · 07/12/2010 12:54

Awful.

When I read he had contacted Max Clifford I was a bit Hmm.

thumbplumpuddingwitch · 07/12/2010 12:56

I wonder if this thread will be pulled as well.
I agree that the whole thing looks highly suspect, especially the man being released unharmed, but really we do have to wait and see whether or not he is actually charged with plotting her murder (and convicted of course)

GiddyPickle · 07/12/2010 13:32

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LouMacca · 07/12/2010 13:57

ItalianLady - i totally agree. Why the hell has this man hired Max Clifford? I thought he was heavily in debt?

Something stinks about this, it just doesn't add up.

Expect this thread to be pulled soon.

ItalianLady · 07/12/2010 14:24

I also read he wouldn't benefit financially from her death.

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eandz · 07/12/2010 14:43

From the publicity that Max Clifford enjoys, I bet he just works pro bono for high profile cases? He is a publicist after all.

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wannaBe · 07/12/2010 14:46

presumably if he couldn't benefit financially from her death, he was hoping to benefit financially from all the publications wanting to buy his story hence the need for max Clifford.

I don't buy into the concept that this one incident is so damaging to SA's tourist industry. The area it happened in was a well-known rough area even twenty years ago. And SA's crime rate is highly publicised, the fact that one victim happened to be a tourist isn't going to change that. Just six months ago we had the world cup there and there were no issues..

sue52 · 07/12/2010 16:07

He hasn't been found guilty of anything.

DuelingFanjo · 07/12/2010 16:08

he's not even been found guilty of anything yet!

NorthernLurker · 07/12/2010 16:14

NO and it will be a while before he is as well as he came back to the UK asap afterwards. Hmm I have great difficulty in believing in ruthless and desperate robbers who hijack a vehicle that had no business being where it supposedly was then eject the husband unharmed then steal the wife's belongings and THEN shoot her. I have read that the police were looking at mobile records as well and there have been a number of reports that they weren't the typical happy couple.

Women are more at risk from their partner than anybody else. Violent murders - even in South Africa are hugely eclipsed by domestic violence. There is a basis for thinking this man may be involved.

kittya · 07/12/2010 16:39

I dont really get why this would be pulled?? the facebook pages are in full force and its all much less polite then this discussion.

Olihan · 07/12/2010 21:20

DH's first reaction was 'the husband had her killed' as soon as he read the initial news reports.

Mine was 'don't be silly, of course he didn't'.

There is far more behind this than the SA authorities wanting to preserve their image. So much of the story doesn't add up.

There is something deeply odd and disturbing about the way the husband came straight back to the UK so soon afterwards and the hiring of Max Clifford. WHY would you need a publicist when your wife has been brutally murdered? Especially one who deals exclusively with the gutter press.

There have been several similar stories of new wives being murdered on their honeymoons, it's not unheard of and I sadly suspect this will end the same way.

thumbplumpuddingwitch · 07/12/2010 21:28

kittya - I don't exactly know why the last thread on this subject was pulled, probably something to do with defamation of character/libel/slander laws - if this thread goes the same way the same thing will probably happen again.

kittya · 07/12/2010 21:39

Maybe this one is monitored more closely than the ones that are on facebook which are saying some pretty vile things.

Its all very sad but, please, the Max Clifford thing. No wonder people are speculating.

wannaBe · 07/12/2010 21:45

\link{http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1335537/The-nagging-questions-honeymoon-murder-growing.html\this article}

is interesting.

Admittedly it's in the dm, but...

it seems the marriage was never registered, therefore, they weren't actually married?

And it still makes no sense that the husband would be thrown out of the car while the wife was left there to be killed - he would have been a witness, would have had the taxi driver's number etc.

And why was he giving interviews to the press the day after, and why hire max Clifford?

JingleBelleDameSansMerci · 07/12/2010 21:50

It's awful but, quite frankly, whenever I hear that a woman has been killed in mysterious circumstances my first thought is that it's likely to be her partner or an ex-partner.

Clearly none of us have any idea what happened in this case but my first thought was that this was not as it appeared. It's my opinion only though.

kittya · 07/12/2010 21:53

to be fair, with these kind of weddings there is always the big Indian do, along with a registry office which makes it official so, its not unusual for it not to be legal if they hadnt done the second ceremony yet.

SlartyBartFast · 07/12/2010 21:55

my reaction was the husband did it... i think we are so used to it being someone you knowwww - it is more the norm.

kittya · 07/12/2010 21:56

who knows. I felt so sorry for her dad in that court today.

wannaBe · 07/12/2010 21:58

would you go on honeymoon before actually being married though?

Appletrees · 07/12/2010 22:01

Yes who did hone the first pitchfork?

Honestly. You want to award a prize for starting a lynchmob?

kittya · 07/12/2010 22:06

nobody is. If you want to see lynch mobs you need to start trawling the internet and see how nasty people can be. Its not difficult to find.

People are just discussing the news, it is a news thread.

pooka · 07/12/2010 22:07

Firstly - innocent until proven guilty.

Secondly, guilty or otherwise I found the previous thread distasteful in its' picking over of the bones of the incident.

Grim.

Appletrees · 07/12/2010 22:08

Sure -- you're all congratulating yourselves. Me, me I knew it first, it was me. Read the op. Read the thread.

I don't trawl the internet -- being cleaner than sewage doesn't make you clean.

Appletrees · 07/12/2010 22:10

BBC news is sailing a bit close to the wind. ut the lawyers will have looked at it.