Clare Solomon is failing miserable on Newsnight

[waterlooroadisadocumentary]

Can students really not get anyone better to represent the, she is hardly doing a good job of representing the educated

Your father was there with his students, is he a Jedi master? can I join I wish to learn the ways of the force (and then turn to the dark side).

I would also like to learn the ways of the force, alongside Ryoko :)

He is a lecturer, but I don't get the joke.
I am being fik?

It's from Star Wars susie100. You're obviously not a geek like me ;)

And good on him for going!

Ms Citizen Smith of Tooting Popular Front was a right idiot.

Ah ha, I see! Sorry.

Chil1234 talked about being at uni in the 80's - this is my experience as well, from a working class family and on full grant. This was the same as my DH. We both benefitted enormously from our education, and now fall into the "posh" bracket by probably be able to afford to help out our DCs with their university education.

My point is that our experiences have helped us in our careers - I am pretty sure we wouldn't be earning what we do without the degree. i believe that a small increase in fees plus a graduate tax (and yes, it should be applied retrospectively to those who have benefitted and have higher-earning careers where it can be afforded.)

I would tie this in with the complete abolition of Labour's lunatic aspiration for 50% of young people to have auniversity education. Some careers don't need a university background - I would suggest nursing here; the training should be practical, obviously with necessary theory interspersed. A particular bugbear of mine is "events management" - since when should this be a degree subject!

The 50% thing is a red herring - if we want a skilled workforce then they need education or training. That needs to be paid for (by government/society - who benefits from its trained and educated populace), whether it is as a degree or as an apprenticeship. There is no way round it unless you think 90% of populace should be untrained, unskilled. It is called living in a modern society.

Agree that training is required, but to degree level for "events management" ?(I keep coming back to that one; it's my bugbear!) Surely this should be classified as a vocational qualification, NVQ or BTEC, and should be studied whilst working in that industry (and therefore employer funded). I think it devalues the degree standard to class it as such.

Agreed - training YES - degree level for 50% - far from necessary.

I do not want to offend, but the comments I have heard from people who have themselves (or had relatives) visit hospital are that nurses are now even more 'hands off'perhaps because of the degree level courses they do.

Retreating to the nurses area they seem to gossip (unless they really are talking about patients) but they seem less in evidence to assist patients than they ever were in the past, as if this is aspect of their job is 'beneath them'.

As for Clare Solomon - like so moany who get elected, she is able to spout her own personal views from a position of 'authority' but wmay no longer represent, in all she does or says, the views of the majority of students. After all, getting elected into an NUS position depends in part on what is included in publicity material, and not all would know her full range of activities in the past, nor what other views she may hold than what they hear / read, shortly before casting a vote.

network like "moany" people getting elected - freudian slip!

well spotted - they say someone making the mistake re-reads is and their brain corrects the error (hence the need for proofreaders)

aaagh - re-reads it

Love it

the Mash nails it again!

Thanks for your support-it's tough being a single mum to a 19 year old and having also brought up 4 of my brothers and sisters.

Mum's United Against the Cuts :-)

meh

not on yer nellie, lady

feck orf with your thanks for support

No problem Clare! Do stick around :)

where's the lady with the log when you need her

Clare

make sure you keep on the case- two of my University of London students have been arrested and they are very distraught. Please keep this event high profile.

thanks for all your work.

telsa - were they anywhere near Millbank ? Were they just innocent bystanders ?

Clare Solomon came across as an idiot, and I'd be ashamed to be represented by her.

Not interested in whether they're wearing an army greatcoat or a bow tie - the issue is the extent to which a student rep can put a decent argument together - and she failed miserably.

Clare was the video footage you linked to something to distract from the violent action that took place more recently ?

I have only watched the first 3 minutes of the

and while I can see you are strong in your wish to highlight the background to the protest, it does you and ULU no good whatsoever to simply evade or ignore Paxman's questions.

I am very much "on the fence" about the rights and wrongs of the tuition fee debate, but if a person acts as a spokesperson or leader for a group, there are certain expectations of them, and in a TV interview, answering the question(s) seems to be one of them.

It is, after all, a major reason people have for criticism of politicians of any party or none.

The sadest thing is that you all have an opinion on this girl but don't give a stuff about giving one on Amazon and the child rape guide. Look at the ratings and decide what that says about us intelligent, middle class mums. Reach for your Sancerre, grow up and get real the lot of you