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Statue of Dodi and Diana

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Cam · 14/09/2005 08:21

Read about this yesterday in the DT, Al Fayed has erected a broze statue of his son and Princess Di in Harrods. Apparently he is depicted in an ope-necked shirt whilst she is in a diaphanous dress and they have their hands in the air releasing a dove together.

All I can say is thank goodness I'm not taking dd to see Father Christmas in Harrods this year

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teeavee · 15/09/2005 12:30

I believe you, knowing.

Knowing · 15/09/2005 12:37

Thanks Teeavee!

I believe him too now, and you know what, I rather wish he hadn't told me, beacuse for about two weeks afterwards I couldn't stop thinking about it, and then I started reading more of the news about it, and actually, it all seemed to 'fit together'

MaloryTowers · 15/09/2005 12:40

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Easy · 15/09/2005 15:32

Knowing.

As you have just told us all about this, will your friend still regard you as a 'trusted friend?'

And if your friend who uncovered all this had attempts on his life, then you need to be a bit more careful yourself my dear

Knowing · 15/09/2005 15:48

Easy.

I haven't told you "all about it" actually - just the fact that I have been told some stuff by someone I believe and trust which, in turn, leads me to believe that all is not as it appears.

I haven't posted any facts from the report, or anything which isn't speculated/published at length on the web elsewhere. (Nor will I).

My original point in posting was to say that I think Al Fayed has some particular knowledge and beliefs which may lead him to continue to 'campaign' for the truth about the death of his son. This statue may well be part of his attempt to keep the memory of his son & Diana alive, and to remind people that there are still unanswered questions.

snafsicle · 15/09/2005 16:01

I thought it was very well known that Dodi was simply a pleasant fling for Diana? That's what she told all her friends, wasn't it? It was no great romance and certainly no sort of threat to the future of the Royal Family. There was never any question of a future King of England having a Muslim stepfather. Isn't that why plenty of Diana's circle find the whole Al Fayed 'Diana and Dodi, together forever' circus distasteful because they know it's so ridiculous - if she'd not died the relationship probably would have been over by the end of the month!

That's why I think this whole conspiracy theory thing is so crazy. No offence, Knowing, because obviously this is just my uninformed opinion. But all these theories are really just a way for people to try and make sense of something that they find too shocking and upsetting to just accept. Sometimes things just happen, sometimes people just have accidents, or get shot, or whatever...

snafsicle · 15/09/2005 16:06

God, I can't believe I have actually posted on that woman's lovelife. I'll be buying commemorative tablecloths next

Bugsy2 · 15/09/2005 16:10

Rofl Snafsicle, or perhaps a model of the very attractive statue!!!!

winnie · 15/09/2005 16:18

yuk!

Easy · 15/09/2005 16:32

snafsicle

I agree, the whole conspiracy theory just strikes me as too ridiculous. IMO IF the 'British Establishment' had intended Diana dead they would have found a much more certain way for it to happen (she could have survived this accident if the car had hit the post differently, or if she had been wearing a seatbelt), and I think with less mess. Fayed was already a thorn in the side of the British Govt. and to deliberately kill his son in the proceedings would have been a totally stupid thing to do.

Anyway, despite the popularity she had with the masses, I don't think she would have been deemed important enough to waste such resources on.

just my opinion tho.

Knowing · 15/09/2005 16:38

Snafsicle - sorry, but I really disagree with a lot of your post:

I'm not pretending I know all the ins and outs of the whole messy business, but what I'm saying is that I think I know enough to cast significant doubt (in my mind certainly) that there is 'foul play' at work here...

YOU SAY: "I thought it was very well known that Dodi was simply a pleasant fling for Diana? That's what she told all her friends, wasn't it? It was no great romance and certainly no sort of threat to the future of the Royal Family."

  • 'well-known' by whom though? Where did "they" (whoever "they" might be - it always makes me cringe when people quote "they" as some kind of authoritative source) get that information from? - The media? -The web?
  • or genuinely from someone, first-hand, who had been involved & talked to the Royal family?

I know it's an old adage, but you simply CANNOT believe ANYTHING you read in the paper - there is no such thing as 'real, pure' news reporting - it is all there to meet someone's objective. I worked in media and PR for 15 years and have worked with enough of the national newspapers to have seen this to be true.( Have 'created' front page news stories for my clients many times...)

YOU SAY: There was never any question of a future King of England having a Muslim stepfather. Isn't that why plenty of Diana's circle find the whole Al Fayed 'Diana and Dodi, together forever' circus distasteful because they know it's so ridiculous - if she'd not died the relationship probably would have been over by the end of the month!

How can you possibly so categorically know this?
Did YOU know them personally?

YOU SAY- But all these theories are really just a way for people to try and make sense of something that they find too shocking and upsetting to just accept. Sometimes things just happen, sometimes people just have accidents, or get shot, or whatever...

It's my belief that you have just perfectly played back, exactly, the 'spun' message which the Royal Family's PR staff (in conjunction with the government, most likely) will have worked long and hard with the National Press (the owners of which are, of course, all their friends and relatives...)

It's true, sometimes people DO just have accidents, but when it's a celebrity, people naturally find it more suspicious.

If people are interested to read more of the suggested 'alternative facts' (which, of course, could also be suspect?) then have a look here:
it's the first I found, but there are many more...

Snaf - I'm really not trying to have a go at you - honest- just saying that we all need to question what it is that has led us to our current beliefs around this?

teeavee · 15/09/2005 16:39

stil reckon something stinks - I'm a republican, snad, but I love this kind of idle speculation! WhyI reckon the chauffeur's drink was spiked, and the car was chased by a secret agent.
Knowing, go on, put us out of our misery, you know you want to!
I won't tell, honest.

teeavee · 15/09/2005 16:39

snad? I meant snaf!

Blu · 15/09/2005 17:15

Didn't Al Fayed more or less despatch Dodi on a mission to have a relationship with her? He was engaged to someone else and suddenly rushed off to chat Di up....
Whatever the facts, if Di was my Mum I would be very distressed to have maverick statues going up in department stores.

snafsicle · 15/09/2005 18:17

Knowing, by all means disagree with every word of my post - you're quite entitled to

Of course I don't 'categorically know' anything I said, hence the bit in my post that reads 'this is just my uninformed opinion'... Although, I do have a wee bit of media experience myself, and one thing I do know is that, 'Diana murdered on the orders of Prince Philip' is a far juicier story than 'Diana dies in freak accident', isn't it?

I am just deeply sceptical of any 'theory'. Have any conspiracy theories - on any subject - ever actually been proved to be true? And the whole 'it's more suspicious if it's a celebrity' simply backs up my point, I think!

Anyway, not really sure why I am posting on here because I don't know - and I don't much care either lol!

cod · 15/09/2005 18:18

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Nightynight · 15/09/2005 18:19

oh gosh Blu, that sort of rumour is so easy to start.

You don't have to make up any conspiracy theories to see the truth of what Knowing said in her last post.

Nightynight · 15/09/2005 18:21

well cod there is the possibility that taxpayers money paid for it?

but I dont want start speculating down that route

cod · 15/09/2005 18:22

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Blu · 15/09/2005 18:24

Indeed, Nightynight - I read about it a lot at the time - probably written by the Jilted Fiancee! (her name was Kerry or something, I think.)

I wonder whether the public will ever know any of the truth - sandwiched between the rather lurid press and the fanatical secrecy of the royal family etc.

Nightynight · 15/09/2005 19:10

cod
would that be one in your entire taxpaying lifetime, or one per year?

blu - yes, I think you are right. well theyre still holding on to the secret of the princes in the tower, and doubtless a good few more!

Tommy · 15/09/2005 21:08

As has been pointed out by many people since this letter was published... if you thought someone was out to kill you in a car accident, wouldn't you always wear your seatbelt?

sansouci · 15/09/2005 21:23

Reading through this thread, it strikes me how desperately fashionable it has become to despise Diana & pretend not to be curious about the spectacular way she lived and died.

sansouci · 15/09/2005 21:24

Yes, the statue is horrible & totally OTT.

tiredemma · 15/09/2005 21:28

im STILL laughing at snafs lionel richie comment..........