Yvette Cooper and the Fawcett society takes the cuts to court

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fascinating, and fucking brilliant

Yes good for the Fawcett Society and YC. I am going to donate some money too.

i won't be donating money on account that as my job is under threat i will need all the pennies i can get to avoid losing my home if that that happens! But i shall be lobbying parliament etc, they can have some of my time.

It is not fiddling while Rome burns IMO

Sending women back into the kitchen will wreck the economy (see my posts on other threads), so it achieves the dual gain of maintaining equality whilst supporting economic growth.

I believe the expression is ker-ching.

The cuts are not about sending women back to the kitchen though are they and reducing the deficit is the most important thing the Government must do. Women are more reliant on the state, public services and are the majority in the public sector workforce so I don't see how both genders could be equally affrcted by them.

sexism doesn't have to be intentional in order to be sexism though does it? Sending women back to the kitchen is the outcome, regardless of the intention.

We'll be sending women (and men) to the dole queue if we don't deal with the deficit.

or, sending them to the dole queue anyway. I cannot see how making 500,000 people redundant will not do that, yes, some might get other jobs, but many many won't. The private sector has been so badly hit, they cannot offer jobs to those out of work.

In places like wales, where 1 in 3 people are public sector workers, they are going to be faced with a horrendous unemployment situation. How on earth will that relieve the burden? Maybe instantly there will be more money in the public purse, but long term, the effects will be absolutely devastating.

Talk to me about what happens if Fawcett win.

Presumably if the govt had been more on the ball they could have got away with something minimal - 'our equality assessment leads us to conclude that these measures will impact more heavily on women. We have therefore included a number of ridiculously minor measures to offset this impact....'

so what's to stop them doing a new budget which is practically the same but which says, basically, 'yeah it is going to affect women, what you gonna do about it?'

Don't get me wrong, I think what the Fawcett are doing is brilliant - apart from anything else it is shouting from the rooftops about the economic inequalities between men and women - I am just not quite clear what the outcome will be.

They will have to look at the graph once again and make sure the bottom 10% are hit a little less, and the remaining centiles a little more, so it's a smoother curve, that's what they will have to do.

At the moment it's a right mess. That is why people are angry.

Yvette Cooper 'impressive'? Seriously? She who represents Pontefract from the heart of Stoke Newington. And who incidentally flipped the designation of her home 3 times to claim the maximum allowances. Umm. You're easily impressed.

What I would say is that I think people shoould stop going on and on in the press about how 'numerate' and 'clever' she is, as if it is some sort of a big surprise.

A lot of us on here are probably even more 'numerate' and 'clever' and manage to be female at the same time. And fertile.

It can be done.

"I think we all join the Fawcett Society to support this?" - are you MAD, woman????
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Why do you say that? What's wrong with waving the odd flag?

"A lot of us on here are probably even more 'numerate' and 'clever' and manage to be female at the same time. And fertile."

Hehe Boffinmum.

Fawcett Society action - it's a form of scrutiny of the cuts, isn't it? Same as placard waving or doing a projection of the outcomes or even typing on here that you are fed up (if you are). It all has a cumulative effect - and I for myself I would like the cumulative effect to be that this Govt is removed, in sooner than 5 years time, so we can spread the cuts out over a longer period and not threaten the recovery.

Personally I don't care whether its Yvette Cooper, Harriet Harman, Joanna Lumley or Cheryl Cole figurehead-ing the action, as long as it makes the point publicly about the cumulative effect.

PS Fawcett Society, if you are reading - did you call Cheryl Cole??

Comparatively speaking the male populous was hit hardest during the recession, so it varies.

eh?

but it isnt just the job losses in the public sector that this is about. it is about the tax and benfit systems that are effecting women more. and it is about the fact that the gove had a duty to check what they had planned against the law and they did not.

SGM, well said. you are the only other person on here who I have noticed, that has mentioned the CSA% besides me