I can't understand the way this is being reported

[DuelingFanjo]

sad story about family of 4 found dead.

I seems to me that if 3/4 of of the family were stabbed and the remaining one hung himself then the most likely victims are those who were stabbed and the one who hung himself is most likely responsible for their deaths. So why is this being treated as some kind of incident over money worries?

Sure, there may be other evidence that we and the press do not know but isn't it wrong to report it the way it is being reported?

Another family with small children murdered, probably by the one person who should have been protecting them.

I read a different version of this story which implied that the husband/father was the one responsible and they thought money worries might have been what caused him to do this.

I think sometimes inforation is witheld from the press to ensure the police get it right and othertimes there is just shoddy writing from the press - but we never know which it is.

I think it is a shocking event though, and I hate they way they are using the term 'money worries' - I think for things to be so bad that you even contemplate doing this, let alone going through with it, it has gone beyond a 'worry'.

i think they are only speculating.

Yeah, just read a couple of other reports and it does seem to be different.

Seems every other day there's another story about a man killing his wife and children Just seems to be happening a lot

Very sad story, I knew the mum and girls through the pre-school she owned and ran, my children went there - lovely lady, and gorgeous kids, so shocked at it all - personally I think there are worse things than money worries, surely there must be something deeper than that to induce this kind of tragedy?

I don't get your point, That story is quite clear that the husband is responisble, there is one line about a possible reason re financial. What do you want them to write?

Before I opened the thread I knew what story it was going to be about.

I think I get your point - this man murdered his family, money worries alone don't make everyone go out and kill your family, right?

Ìf thats the point its a bad one. Of course one set of circumstances don't make everyone do such a thing, that doesn't mean they didn't lead one person to do the thing.

Post hoc ergo procter hoc.

Well, I can't defend duellingfanjo on that point as I'm not sure it's entirely the point she was making.

BUt if she was, I understand where she's coming from with it!

I must admit, I was suprised with the 'money worries' speculation. Such a sad sad story and how horrific for the Grandmother to discover them. I'm quite sure it would take more than money worries to murder your family, especially in that way.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Latin for "after this, therefore because of this"

But that's the point isn't it? It wasn't because of the money worries. It was because of his reaction to them.

WOWY

I'm a simple being me.

I love your use of Latin and all that, but I don't get your analogy.

Yes his reaction. Influenced and informed by any number of other factors. But if that was a large factor, why shy away from saying so? It does nothing to shift the blame away from himself, it just attempts to explain. I don't get what could be wrong with that?

It wasn't my latin monty, It was runnybottoms!! I was just translating it via the wonder of google for the benefit of us thickies on the thread.

Runnybottom - you don't get it. Fine. I do.

Er, way to debate. Why not explain why they shouldn't publicise one reason that this particular man did such a terrible thing? Especially when the one question people ask in these situations is WHY?

WOWY - I must learn to pay attention .

But I'm with you, and I still don't get it RB.

I don't intend to debate with you, I don't need to prove my thoughts to some stranger on the internet thank you.

Then what are you doing on a thread in "in the news" where the point is to talk about the news? Seems an awful waste of my your time?

Is there anybody else who would like to make sense debate the point at hand?

Runnybottom have you had a bad day? What's with the attitude?

RB - just asking you to clarify what you mean??
Just because I happen to be interested in the use of LATIN.

WOWY -

They had spent ages doing up their familly home and spent lots of money on it, then he went bankrupt, had to move into a rented home, lots of credit card debts, but kept up the image of a well to do familly with big cars and nice clothes
Reminds me of the 'Secretly poor' thread on MN.
He wrote on his Facebook page that "Don't waste your time as you will waste your life"
Maybe he felt that all his hard work at getting a good life for his familly was all wasted and in his twisted mind he thought that he was 'saving them' by killing them.
Either that or he was a total coward and did not want to go without his familly.

Very, very sad

double durrr

I'm with runny

however remember the woman recently who killed her children, but failed in her attempt to kill herself. she was vilified on here. would she have been treated as such had she succeeded in killing herself too?

just wondering.

but another point. money, and the lack of it is a Serious Cause for concern for many many people in this country.

Double durr?

double durr at the rapid descent to squabbles when nobody is really disagreeing on any point