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No charges over G20 man's death...

32 replies

haoshiji · 22/07/2010 13:11

Yep a video of the officer twatting the guy with a stick is pretty flimsy evidence for assult.....

I am not police bashing (no pun intended) but this does seem a bit much.

Jutice for all?.

"After a thorough and careful review of the evidence, the CPS has decided that there is no realistic prospects of a conviction against the police officer in question for any offence arising from the matter investigated and that no charges should be brought against him."

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Chil1234 · 22/07/2010 13:29

He was hardly 'twatted' with a stick. 'Roughly pushed' is about all you get from the video and you'd struggle to stretch that to an assault charge.

haoshiji · 22/07/2010 13:51

You can see in the video how the officers arm is swinging in an arc and the baton, that's not a push; the arm would have been extending out and coming back? It looks like a forceful blow in that sense not a shove. I do wonder if a member of the public ?shoved? a police officer and they died if they?d just get a slap on the wrist.

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haoshiji · 22/07/2010 13:52

If only Gazza had been in the area the entire incident could have been avoided.

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Coolfonz · 22/07/2010 13:53

The police can kill anyone they like, don't be so lightweight.

Harry Stanley, where the police said he threatened them with an imitation shotgun and they fired in self defence. In fact he was carrying a table leg in a plastic bag to mend for a mate and they shot him twice in the back of the head before he had even turned around.

Acquitted.

De Menezes? Had his head pulped by maniacs in plain clothes who then chased the train driver down the track and threatened to kill him and threatened the other passengers in the carriage all without calling a warning, perjuring themselves in court but bailed out by the judge who said he would refuse any perjury trials.

Pushing over an alcolohic paper seller who then dies at a lefty protest, i mean come on, one of the TSG even went online to joke about it. They think it's sport...

Blair Peach? All the men who died in Brixton nick over the years? Cherry Groce? The 5 year old boy shot in his bed by West Midlands...anyone convicted? Get fucking real people, if the OB off you or your mates, family, fuck you, you deserve it, they are the law...

onagar · 22/07/2010 13:56

"no realistic prospects of a conviction against the police officer in question for any offence"

That part was quite true if you think about it.

Chil1234 · 22/07/2010 13:57

We've already gone from 'twatted with a stick' to 'forceful blow'. If it really was a 'forceful blow' then there would be a prosecution. The cause of death is still being debated so there's no case for manslaughter either.

BTW... a member of the public shot a policemen in the face and blinded him. And far from a slap on the wrist they got a hero support site on Facebook. 'Justice for all'...

haoshiji · 22/07/2010 13:58

Um no he ended up dead.

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scurryfunge · 22/07/2010 14:01

Yes Coolfonz, still displaying your distorted views, as ever.

Chil1234 · 22/07/2010 14:03

@coolfonz... if you're going to make lists how about the police who have been murdered on duty? Blakelock, Beshenivsky, Broadhurst, Fletcher, Mackay, Carroll, Oake....

Coolfonz · 22/07/2010 14:18

Because police die they should be allowed to kill without a single conviction since WW2? That's the difference, when Blakelock died they put on a show trial and locked up three innocent guys. Hundreds of UK citizens have been killed by the police since WW2 and not one officer has ever done time, not a single one.

Once again the fascist sympathisers on MN are quick to support state murder. Sad really. Shouldn't you all fuck off to Saudi Arabia or Burma? You support torture, secret evidence, killing of civilians by the state, you'd all be at home there, no offence meant like.

scurryfunge · 22/07/2010 14:19

..........and then Coolfonz woke up

grannieonabike · 22/07/2010 14:21

Police have been killed on duty; police have killed on duty. The point is to stop it happening again. If the people who attacked the police, eg Moat, are dead or in prison - that's all that can be done.

But what about the police who have not been prosecuted for attacking the public? That dreadful case of the 5-year old was a mistake, surely, and that police officer has to live with that.

But the G20 killing was no mistake. What were the police's orders that day? What message does it send to the rest of the police force if this officer is not prosecuted? The police should be there to protect our right to demonstrate peacefully. Up until then, and in that place, it was a peaceful demonstration.

'A charge of common assault, which does not require proof of injury, could not be brought against the officer because there is a six-month time limit.' - surely that's unfair. Why did it take them so long?

'The CPS also decided not to charge the officer, who remains suspended from duty, with misconduct in a public offence.' - I suppose they must have had their reasons for not charging him, but what are they?

I don't think the IPCC should be the ones to investigate the police because they are the police.

Coolfonz · 22/07/2010 14:32

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Chil1234 · 22/07/2010 14:44

@coolfonz I object to the term 'pig weilding a gun'... it's offensive and beneath contempt.

Police officers do a difficult & dangerous job that often requires split-second decision making the rest of us never have to encounter. Some die as a result. Some make mistakes where others die. Some of them really are nasty thugs that shouldn't be wearing the uniform and should be ousted. The sweeping generalisation that anyone supporting the police is a 'facist sympathiser' is quite wrong.

scurryfunge · 22/07/2010 14:46

coolfonz was bullied at school, Chil1234, he is soooooo anarchic, man

Chil1234 · 22/07/2010 15:06

It's a he is it?

scurryfunge · 22/07/2010 15:17

Believe so

FrozenFlowers · 22/07/2010 18:47

To be clear: there is absolutely no question that there are sufficient grounds for an assault charge to be brought against the police officer, and the CPS admit that. People are prosecuted for assault for less all the time. No charge can be brought for the technical reason that the six month time bar has passed.

MoonUnitAlpha · 22/07/2010 19:15

Yep, there's absolutely no debate that the police officer (who has been investigated before for unreasonable use of force apparently) assaulted an innocent man. Then an incompentent pathologist manages to pour enough doubt on the cause of death to rule out manslaughter, despite two subsequent autopsies agreeing that the push to the ground killed Tomlinson.

The whole thing is shameful.

Coolfonz · 22/07/2010 19:16

Nice deletion Mumsnet!

But you are a fascist, you support killings by the state, you support torture, you support secret evidence.

You are a fascist.

Nothing wrong with pointing out the police have killed hundreds of British citizens since WW2 without a single policeman serving time, ever.

Beating and sticking shotguns in the mouths of innocent IRA suspects, no convictions. Pulping a Brazilian guy's head from point blank range, no convictions. Perjuring themselves in court, no convictions. Shooting Harry Stanley twice in the head without a warning, then lying in court and being found out, no convictions. Cherry Groce, no convictions, five year old kids, no convictions, Blair Peach no convictions (and they know the officers who did it as well)...and there are so many more.

There is a pattern here. Not that people like you care about law. If this was the Iranian revolutionary guard you'd be all high and mighty, the enemy within people like you...democracy-hating, anti-British, servile to the state and its agents.

You know, imo and all that...

If the Iranian revolutionary guard

Coolfonz · 22/07/2010 19:18

Strike the last if the Iranian revolutionary guard, small child trying to type at the same time as me...

scurryfunge · 22/07/2010 19:20

Carry on Woolfie

Coolfonz · 22/07/2010 19:27

You've got nothing to say but GCSE insults as you're obviously a bit thick.

As in: it's Wolfie not Woolfie - idiot.

jodevizes · 22/07/2010 19:35

At the same little meeting, there was the police seargent who felt soooo threatened by a short woman with a carton of Tropicana Orange Juice that he attacked her with a baton. No Charge.

Policeman selling guns from the evidence room that have been seized in raids. Not given a custodial sentence which should be mandatory. I believe the guy who was found guilty of converting replica weapons was given at least ten years.

Questioning press photographers for taking pictures in the street, even locking them up and stealing their films.

Abusing stop and search powers. Etc etc., etc.,

The police have been given carte blanche to trample over our civil rights with imunity, safe in the knowledge that will not face any serious charges.

We are becoming more and more like a second rate police state.

scurryfunge · 22/07/2010 19:35

No point in conversing with someone who clearly doesn't have the capacity to understand their own rants. I find it more amusing to ignore your silliness or take the piss.

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