Organic Milk and Butter - Necessary or OTT

[Wills]

I buy Organic fruit and veg and used to buy organic meat but having listened to a recent soil association lady on radio I came ot the conclusion that I only really need to be careful with chicken i.e. buy from Farm Select places. Cows, pigs and sheep don't "allow" themselves to be reared in terrible conditions. With this in mind do I still need to buy organic milk and butter?

I buy organic milk and chicken, don't bother with organic fruit and veg

"Cows, pigs and sheep don't "allow" themselves to be reared in terrible conditions".....errrrm, I think you will find that most are actually (unfortunately)

I have a farmer, otherwise I would go for organic meat/free range in the supermarket too

I've sort of picked this up from the soil assoc woman. She pointed out that cows and sheep wont "grow well" in battery farm conditions etc. I suppose its whether or not I have faith that the government/s have learnt from the bse scandel but I probably dont

organic milk has more omega 3s

I buy organic where at all possible, even down to clothing! i do insist on organic milk and fruit and veg. i also believe in buying local produce.

I remember seeing a thing with Gordon Ramsey and pig farming

it was v upsetting tbh

it's also possible to go local AND organic

i buy organic milk and meat (not organic fruit and veg)

apparently conventional dairy cows are fed antibiotics and injected with growth hormones to increase milk supply which makes the milk more mucusey (sp?)

Organic milk is necessary I think, due to antibiotics etc in non-organic.

Organic, non-homogenised milk also tastes much better.

Why is most milk homogenised these days?

Thing is with oprganic ranges from supermarket, thier livestock are allowed to be fed up to 15% non organic proicduce, makeing them not organic, in my eyes, so yourt organic chicken from Sainsbos and your oganic milk fromw wherever is probably still full of hormones etc.

I always get organic milk for dd, I don't drink milk also some fruit and veg like carrots.
then given the choice I prefer local and seasonal to organic on other items

cows and sheep are more likely to be kept outdoors than pigs or poultry but pigs are definitely often reared intensively indoors.

Personally i buy free range as a minimum or organic meat for chicken and pork, less fussy about beef and lamb but i do use local butcher not supermarket for all meat. Also milk i use milkman not supermarket.

Less concerned about veg although potatoes and lettuce are the ones im fussiest about. Baby leaf salad type stuff v. intensively sprayed for production. Old potatoes in the winter are sprayed with sprout inhibitors and other stuff so tend to go organic on spuds then.

So basically i would be more concerned about meat than veg.

I don' usually buy anything in org xept milk... my youngest son is lactose intolerant and thats the only milk that agrees wit him

I do organic DAIRY and organic chicken (eggs from 100% organic comepletely free ranage hens at work! )

and british pork

I do NOT want to be consuming copiouse amounts of growth hormones and antibioticcs present in milk, and do not want to contrbute to the barabaric battery hen industry

also REFUSE to eat pigs that live in cages hence it HAS to be british!

Toxins accumulate in fatty tissues of animals and, I think, any fatty part of any type of food. So we buy organic full fat milk and butter and sometimes yogurt, too. I am a bit mixed on meat, mostly because I like using the quality local butcher and they mostly don't do organic meat (they do sell lots of free-range meat).

Am much less bothered about organic F+Veg... rarely buy them.

I don't think growth hormones are allowed in European meat, but I may be wrong. Lots of GH in rest of world meat, though (I think).

I think organic milk and egss taste so much nicer than the regular stuff. If I can't get organic milk we comprimise with Cravendale but usually all our milk, eggs and butter are oragnic though have recently bought the respect eggs to try.

I'm sure I have heard something about huge amounts of mucus in non-organic milk. [yuck emoticon]. I could be wrong though...

Angharad, apparently it's because people find cream on the top "yucky", and can't be trusted to shake the carton first.
Honestly Wills, organic milk, especially the non-homogenised stuff, tastes better and the cows will not have been routinely dosed with anti warble-fly medication and antibiotics against mastitis.
I would never say only organic farms treat their beasts well, that's not true, but to prevent these two painful problems without using prohibited drugs organic farmers have to be very vigilant and keep a close watch on their cows
How are you?

Organic milk every time.

But why o why does it come in litres rather than pints

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doesnt it all come in litres now?

I buy organic fruit, veg and potatoes (although currently eating my own home grown pots [yum]) we have organic milk, butter but not cheese as couldn't find one I like. It's not really that much more expensive, I have upgraded my organic milk from sainsburys own to Rachels or Yeo valley, yes it's 10p more expensive per 4 pints but I want to support the right companies. We also have organic yoghurt.

I don't know how true it is but I was told that non organic cows are more intensivley milked so have mastitis frequently and the milk has to be homoginised to kill the pus. That really put me off non organic milk!

My friends DH is a farm inspector/advisor and says organic fruit and veg isn't worth the money.
Organic meat and milk certainly is though so that whay we do.