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Autumn leaves flutter as October Fledglings Fly!

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standclear · 30/09/2015 10:07

Welcome to the October 2015 Fledgling Flying thread!

Park your broomsticks and cauldrons here!! Or is that just me ? Confused

This is where, from the 1st of the month, we attempt to declutter and follow the 30-step wisdom of Flylady (minus cutesy language and a surfeit of e-mails) with lots of chat and support and mutual motivation (and Wine of course) along the way.

More info available here and here and here.

As usual we will be following a three-pronged approach - and don't worry - we are all at different stages. (Some of us are still stuck at the decluttering stage after quite a few years Blush ):

  • repeat or start baby steps (again!)
  • repeat baby steps + do 15 mins a day decluttering in the current zone

or

  • reinforce babysteps and do daily missions if you have finished decluttering.

And those of you who have decluttered and are really enthusiastic can throw some detailed cleaning in to the mix as well!

The idea is that we focus on short, ring-fenced, daily steps and routines that will help our homes run (more or less!) on "automatic pilot" allowing us to do far more interesting things instead!

This is a very long-running thread so we may appear cliquey but we really aren't! All newcomers, long-termers, lurkers and intermittent returnees not only welcome to join in but positively encouraged to do so!

Helpful pointers: No perfectionism allowed! If it took a while to create the current C.H.A.O.S. (can't have anyone over syndrome) in your home, then it will probably take a while to reverse the situation (you can't clean clutter!). Small steps are the key! And you are never behind: just jump in where you are at!

Any questions, don't hesitate to ask!

Good luck!

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DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 27/10/2015 19:41

Hello again
Weekend away (caravan! glamorous!) so today has mainly been unpacking and laundry. Took DD to GP this morning as she's got a horrid gunky/weepy eye, and plumber came this afternoon so I've really not done much. Washed up some glasses and laundry.
I hope tomorrow is a better day! I'm glad we're on Living Room now, we're still doing up our bedroom from when we moved a year ago Blush so we're camping out in a spare room and everything is everywhere so I didn't even bother trying to do bedroom things last week.
But I have some annoying things in living room (pile of VHSs I don't want to chuck but don't even know if they work) old baby things DD has outgrown and need collapsing, some paperwork too so this week might be productive Hmm
Blue really pleased for you that you're in now!
Knitting I like the sound of the home ed meet ups, that's fab. I'm not sure I'd be organised enough to HE but I am fascinated by it.
Hello to Everyone else sorry I find it hard to keep track of news, you all move so fast! :)
There was a thread about laundry detergent drawers last week where I learned at the ripe age of 34 that the two holes in the detergent drawer are for prewash and then main detergent, I use tabs mostly but on the occasion that I use powder I've been using the wrong slot!! BlushShockBlush I didn't even notice the 2 slot is bigger until I read it on the thread, and checked it! Luckily I had clocked the flower = fabric softener clue... Grin

standclear · 27/10/2015 23:44

Evening all

After another "plodding through treacle" sort of day it is, as ever, very cheering to read everyone's posts on here!

Ta da: managed all of my list + washed all dog blankets and accoutrements ready for furry one's return tomorrow.

Oh and [whispers] bought a Christmas present on-line.

The only problem is, I discovered (too late) that I was supposed to prepare for school meeting tomorrow night by filling in some complicated on-line form on the new school Internet forum facility thing, booking individual time slots with individual teachers [oops]. Serves me right for leaving a large pile of school letters untranslated until the last minute!

And spent a glorious 30 mins gambolling in the garden with rabbits (the autumn weather is glorious here atm; and the colours of all the trees are amazing this year!!).

Blue hope you have survived the day and that all is going well and that you are not too exhausted! Wine Good to hear your neighbour will be OK.

Toffee hope week 2 started well!

Don'tbuy good to hear that you had a w/e away and hope your dd's eye responds to treatment quickly. Don't laugh but I only recently discovered that you are supposed to put those little 'pods' of laundry detergent/softener in to the main drum of the wm with the laundry and not in to the drawers Blush Grin. Felt like a right twonk when it was pointed out to me!! Grin

Crikey Can'tsee you are a veritable decorating power house! Glad you managed a bit of a nap and huge sympathies re: decorating dust situation. Have been there (and need to go there again many times) and it is indeed hellish. Hope escape at end of week proves to be a restorative change of scene if not actually a rest in itself.

Very lowest ebb of organisation here too KNitting (very good way of describing actually). Only seem to have the energy to do absolute minimum.

Treble arf at your dd's Jamie Oliver 30-min meal taking 3 hrs to cook!! (It sounds fantastic though!!) That made me cackle because I often say to dh that I could rustle up an interesting meal as quickly as he does if I used up every available ingredient and every pan in the house; in his case it is 30 mins to cook and 2.5 hrs for me to clear up afterwards... .

I am also worrying about Halloween (I am supposedly hosting a party for friends who used to live in the US and for whom Halloween is a big deal). And looking at the state of the house currently; and comparing that to the state of the house has to be in by Saturday, is making me feel a bit weak at the knees. Still, we have no shortage of dusty corners and dangling cobwebs ... Wink

Thanks for advice about dd. I will keep the pressure off her for now. Tbh, half of me thinks she needs a bomb behind her, and half of me wants to wrap her up in cotton wool and hand feed her grapes ... Grin. As usual, I've no idea what I am doing when it comes to this parenting lark!

[SC throws copious handfuls of scented rose petals over Fuzzpig for so kindly volunteering to run thread in November and carefully avoids mentioning craft drawers Wink Will pm you with my rather pendantic instructions for thread running if that will help. I'm not terribly good with the tech side of things so it probably isn't the fastest method but hope it might help a bit anyway.]

Greymalkin [Waves to another productive Fledgling!] Thank you also - hugely- for volunteering for a future month of thread-leading! It is much appreciated. Hope you had a less stressful day today; you certainly had a productive one!

Waves to Everydayaschoolday, Honu, Whoknows, Ellie, Nicknacks Dogs, Scatty Fish Feetheart Chickentothefox Saymwa Carpe Fingersmith and anyone else I have inevitably forgotten!

Oh yes - met a lovely baby today - which reminded me of Castle and Engels : if you happen to be lurking, hope you and yours are doing well!

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standclear · 27/10/2015 23:48

Oh dear - tired - sorry, when I said in the post to Greymalkin "waves to another productive Fledgling" I meant of course Fuzzpig not myself Blush

Grammar and spelling in that last post is awful, sorry, can't seem to "speak" Eng properly tonight!

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standclear · 27/10/2015 23:58

Right, um, links ...

Baby-step no. 28 for Wed 28th Oct is an important one about getting enough sleep, drinking enough water and eating properly.

We are in Zone 5 this week : The Living Room (October 25-31) here.

Declutter for 15 mins in Zone 5 if you want to and/or do a mission!

If you are at this stage, the detailed cleaning list for Zone 5 is here.

Wednesday's mission is spend 15 mins getting rid of anything that does not belong in your sitting room and is sitting there on a chair, in a corner, or heaped on the floor this mission should keep me going for a lot longer than 15 mins Blush

Wednesday's daily focus is: anti-procrastination , do something that you have been avoiding!!

The habit for October is: www.flylady.net/d/habits-of-the-month/october/ decluttering paper clutter!

A summary of the above (which should update itself daily) can be found here in the Flightplan: www.flylady.net/c/fp.php?tzm=-120.

Keep going everyone! Small steps and all of that ... .

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standclear · 28/10/2015 07:31

Good morning all!

Ta da:
school run (early because have to drop dd off directly at sports centre on Weds)
morning routine inc rabbits, dw, wm, s&s, dining room table hot spots (well, one of them).

To do:
am = "old volunteering"
school run/lunch/bit of hwk supervision
pm = "new volunteering" (dd has to come with me briefly)
ballet runs each way
food and pet shopping during ballet
supper
drop dd off at friends
school meeting
pick dd up
early night

That's it for today! Yet another one with barely any Flying involved Blush

Looks like I will have have one day (tomorrow) to make house respectable for guests on Sat.

And after that, we will have a few days away and then a few days on which to focus on decluttering. (Have rashly booked my stand for the mid-Nov brocante we usually go to; hope to sell a load of old toys and clothes and get rid.)

Hope eveyrone has a productive Wednesday!

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NickNacks · 28/10/2015 07:41

Thanks for the welcome back again

I do keep up with flying for the most part but you lot just chat far too much for me to keep up. I also suspect there's been several name changers.... Feeling a bit lost right now!!

It's half term at the CM house of fun Hmm but they are dropping like flies so will admit I've had a chilled week. Trying to encourage the boys to declutter their room by giving them one job each day. Seems to be working...Grin

fuzzpig · 28/10/2015 09:05

Thanks SC!

Got our family support worker visiting in an hour so I want to get the DCs to read before that, then I need to pop into town with the DCs - thought I'd try and tie everything in to one trip to save my energy. Need to get washing up sponges, pay my cheque in and collect my first ever facebook selling group purchase (a set of watercolours with accessories and paper, mostly for DD). Got one load of drying to put away.

standclear · 28/10/2015 16:40

It is starting to get dark at 5.30pm in the evening now here Sad
Always find that very hard as this house is so bloomin' dark and the lighting is awful! Impossible to get things done because you just ruddy well can't see!

You deserve a chilled week Nicknacks! Smile

Fuzzpig hope family support worker was helpful. Will pm you with thread-leading instructions.

Just snatching five mins to do links as off to school meeting in half an hour, and as I don't have a fixed appt, I suspect I will be there for a long time.

After that, picking up dd and then crashing.

Links for tomorrow:

Baby-step no. 29 for Thurs 29th Oct is not terribly easy to decipher frankly, but I think it is the one introducing weekly pamper sessions

We are in Zone 5 this week : The Living Room (October 25-31) here.

Declutter for 15 mins in Zone 5 if you want to and/or do a mission!

If you are at this stage, the detailed cleaning list for Zone 5 is here.

Thursday's mission is here. Spend 15 mins clearing cluttered spaces/hotspots in your sitting room (in prep for Christmas decorations).

Thursday's daily focus is: errand day.

The habit for October is: www.flylady.net/d/habits-of-the-month/october/ decluttering paper clutter!

A summary of the above (which should update itself daily) can be found here in the Flightplan: www.flylady.net/c/fp.php?tzm=-120.

Have a good evening everyone!

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fuzzpig · 28/10/2015 17:36

FSW visit was really good thanks SC - I'd been a bit apprehensive as last time she seemed quite against home ed but she's seen the light realised how well it's working for DD in particular and she even described their education as 'rich' :o

Decided not to go into town as we will be meeting DH tomorrow (supposed to be his day off but he's going to have to cover Angry so is hoping to just do open/close and meet us in the middle of the day). Instead just went to collect the paint set and absolutely sod all else!

knittingwithnettles · 28/10/2015 17:47

The mission for tomorrow looks good, that I might manage Hmm

spent entire day from 11 till 4 outside or swimming with ds2, long walks through the park and socialising with other kids his age.

dh took dd out and has now taken ds1 to a big RAH performance of Ratatouille with live orchestra. Odd choice for an outing (ds1's insistence) but I am beginning to feel like everyone has had a bit of a half term "special" so to speak despite not leaving London Grin

Tomorrow we have Judo, so there is a hat trick of activities for ds2 which is the main thing.

And it's that time of year again when I look at Greenhouse catalogues. Dear dear, never seem to make a decision. No issues with alley now as garden landscaped and scaffolding for chimney done, so really I do need to organise it!! Any brand recommendations from anyone? Has to be v small and slim though, but not so small that it blows over as the alley/side return is a windtunnel.

fuzzpig · 28/10/2015 18:20

Ratatouille with a live orchestra?! Sounds fab! Envy

knittingwithnettles · 28/10/2015 19:05

toffee hope you survived today or maybe had a very nice day, or something in between. And are now enjoying a nice relaxing time by fire or wine or chatting.

SayAGreatBigThankyou · 28/10/2015 19:48

It's me, c-h i ck -en to thefox! I couldn't log in for ages, but am re-registered!

Flying has gone to pot, DH been away leaving me to toddler tame and I ended up having 3 interviews - got the job though, woo hoo.

Will try and catch up with personals and housework Grin.

CantSee4Looking · 28/10/2015 20:59

still painting. Hmm
also run a cleaning wash through the washing machine and started on the huge mountain of laundry. Huge amount to still do including the contents that was in the wardrobes. fucking dust.
But at least we are now starting to hit the cleaning up phase of the project. Although there is a bit more mess making that is needed before we target the majority of the clean up. But bedrooms are now for taking apart and spring cleaning.

Do like a clean house for christmas...

fuzzpig · 28/10/2015 22:13

I've had my work project looked at. All good but they've totally underestimated how much I did of it (95%) and I don't trust the person who did the 5% to actually say "I only did a bit, fuzz did most of it" rather than quietly accepting half the credit for it. Petty I know but I'm quite upset Blush

Toffeewhirl · 28/10/2015 22:39

Thanks, knitting. I'm really enjoying the new job: my colleagues are lovely, I enjoy the work and it's all beginning to make sense at last. I am also enjoying coming home to the smell of a cooked dinner Smile.

DH has been at home with the DC for half term and is absolutely exhausted with looking after them, shopping, cooking and cleaning (and has to fit running his business in there somehow too). It's funny to hear him say, "I haven't stopped all day!" when it used to be me saying that. My work is busy, but somehow nowhere near as tiring as being at home. What you said upthread is so true: "The lovely thing about office life is that the day is over by 5.30ish and then you feel the rest of the evening is free time/family time rather than "work", whereas SAHMing feels like there is never any time off psychologically (or literally)."

Say - congratulations on getting the job! We were going to our interviews at the same time, weren't we? When do you start?

SC - you are finally approaching the end of your two-month thread-running marathon! Thank you, you've been brilliant Flowers. I love reading your updates and the links even if I don't remember to do the missions.

Good to see you back here, Nicknacks. Well done on introducing your boys to the joys of Flying.

Are you taking on the thread-leader baton for next month, Fuzz? Thank you. And good to see the FSW visit went so well.

Cant - sounds like you are making real progress with the house and an end might be in sight .

Am not doing a lot of Flying at the moment. This morning, before work, I made packed lunches (for myself and DS2, who was at a holiday course with a friend) and put a load of washing on. Managed to run some errands in my lunchbreak. Then, after work, I washed up and wiped down the kitchen surfaces after polishing off the meal DH had cooked for us (very nice it was, too). Oh, and I cleared out the litter tray and weighed out the cat food for tomorrow.

Off to bed now. Night all.

Greymalkin · 29/10/2015 05:55

Hi everyone, thanks for links SC, I'd forgotten this was your second month thread leading! You deserve a break, here Brew (that's homemade booze, btw)

Fuzz - I loathe it when people take credit for work that isn't theirs, so I sincerely hope you get the acknowledgement you deserve. Maybe you could subtlety mention all the work you did when you have a catch up with your manager next?

Sorry Knitting, I have no clue about green houses, I struggle to keep pot plants alive... Are you growing veggies? Sounds like you have all enjoyed half term

Good to see you again SayA, well done re the job, do you have a start date?

DontBuy - it sounds like you have the flying bug! We are a chatty bunch here but don't worry too much about keeping right up to date, as Flylady says, you just jump in where you are

Can't - is there an end in sight re the decorating?

Waves to Everyday, Honu, Whoknows, Ellie, Nicknacks Dogs, Scatty, Feetheart, Carpe Fingersmith and others i know I will have forgotten.

Greymalkin · 29/10/2015 06:03

Ever since last weekend when the clocks changed DS is back to waking up at stupid times of the night/morning. It was 3:30am yesterday and 4am this morning and he simply will not go back to sleep. DH is home at the moment so we can at least share who gets up but he is starting a new six month contract soon where he will be away almost all of the week and I am dreading it. I am boarder line psychopathic when I am sleep deprived for more than a day or two.

Yesterday I got a really decent amount of time down at the archery range; my equipment got a check up and a major tune up; it has made such a difference.

Plan for today:
Try to make the place accessible for the cleaner
We're all going to a local playgroup this morning
Take eBay parcels to the post office
Too many things to list really, lacking motivation. And sleep.

CantSee4Looking · 29/10/2015 07:26

End in the decorating? hahahahahaha nope.
But there is a break coming up. Break for Christmas. Mid to end of January and the building work and decorating stuff returns.

Running late which is not a good plan. Builders are due at 8am For some reason I am craving a massive fry up this morning Hmm

standclear · 29/10/2015 09:17

Good morning all! And thanks for the thanks Smile. Thread leading has been a pleasure! Smile

[Necks Grey's home brew with morning toast; smacks lips ... . Throws Dragon a string of chipolatas to singe for breakfast]

A bit cream-crackered this morning (with full blown headache) but have a full day of cleaning and choring ahead.

Feeling upset because dh made some remarks about the state of the house when he got back last night along the lines of "we are not getting good value out of the cleaners", which is his round-about way of saying the place looks like a pit, which it does.

Demoralised because (a) I haven't felt well this week and so didn't get as much done as normal and dh left without warning, leaving me with a load of extra organisational stuff to sort out (which I think I covered pretty well) (b) I pointed out to him that even professional cleaners (who we have for a very short period of time every week given the challenges of this place) can't clean clutter and the place wouldn't be messy if, like normal people, we had bookcases for books, some kitchen drawers, that I didn't have to keep table linen (and stuff we use regularly for entertaining) in cardboard boxes and that normal people actually put things in what are known as cupboards and therefore don't have a constant sea of crap floating around their home. And (c) it is largely him who likes to entertain and have friends around him but doesn't appreciate the huge effort it takes to pull things together when you have holes in the walls and crumbling plaster. After this 'exchange' he turned over after 10 seconds, fell asleep immediately and snored his head off and I stayed up awake half of the night half fuming and half miserable.

The trouble is, I can see it from his pov, when he comes home exhausted after a mahoosive work trip and one and a half full days of days of travelling and airport delays etc; it can't be nice coming home to a house which is in a constant state of upheaval (not that he seems to pay a blind bit of attention to it normally however). Equally, as much as I want to, I don't appear to have sufficient energy to sort it out atm. And even if I did, the house needs a lot, lot more than cleaning and tidying to get it in to any sort of proper state. Heigh ho.

Sorry for what is hopefully final whinge-fest of the month Grin

On a positive note: furry one is back and happily chasing squirrels in the garden Grin It's funny, because the colour of his coat is so gloriously autumnal; that he just disappears in to the (small town) garden when he is out there.

Blue hope the unpacking is going ok!!

Welcome back Sayagreatbigthankyou and many congratulations on the new job! Hope you can relax this weekend; sounds as if you have a lot on your plate with your dh away!!

Can'tsee [sigh] I love a clean house for Christmas too aint going to happen here. Truly impressed by your very timely scheduling, great organisation and huge efforts and hard work! [Quakes at thought of having to wash entire contents of wardrobe] Good luck with the builders!

Grey so sorry the sleeping situation has gone back to being so difficult. I hope it settles down again before your dh has to work away so much. Good luck with it all. ARchery sounds like a fantastic antitote to home stresses though. Go easy on yourself while you are so (inevitably) exhausted.

Yay Toffee! So great to hear that the work is going well and that, most importantly, that you are enjoying it! Sounds as if dh is doing sterling work too (and is gaining more appreciation of your former role day by day)!

Fuzzpig Great that FSW visit was so positive and that she had 'seen the light' wrt home edding.

Oh those sort of work situations are awful. Totally invidious because one risks looking petty if you do point it out and yet someone else gets the brownie points if you don't. Sympathies! Could you e-mail/ ring up your boss with some "additional" information that you just come across that might enhance "the work you did on Chapter 4" so everyone gets the right message?

Knitting sorry, no useful advice to offer about greenhouses (wish I did! Smile) but very excited on your behalf about the thought of buying one. Think designs have really moved on; the choice is so much better nowadays! If it's going to be sited in a passage-wayl, could you have a sort of lean-to type arrangement but with lovely rounded curves ...like this one for example???

Sounds as though your dc have had an excellent half-term hol btw with lots of lovely family expeditions.

Do you happen to know if Spectre would be suitable for a 12 yr old girl? (We were thinking of taking dd and some of her friends.) I have heard that there is one bit where Bond is tortured and one rather nasty bit of eye manipulation which is not for the squeamish.

Big fledgling wing flaps to Dontbuy Everydayaschoolday, Honu, Whoknows, Ellie, Nicknacks Dogs, Scatty Fish Feetheart Saymwa Carpe Fingersmith and anyone else fluttering in or around the coop!

Right, feel like getting back in to bed frankly but had better get on. Only seven hours of daylight left!!

Have a good day everyone!

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standclear · 29/10/2015 09:18

Forgot to say, hope you have a lovely time meeting your dh at lunch time today Fuzzpig

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WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeG0es · 29/10/2015 09:43

Just popping by to say sorry I haven't been around much this month hope to do better in November.

Knitting - have a look at this range of potting sheds, they do a lean to version in various shapes and sizes, my friend has one. We have one of their freestanding versions and the quality is excellent, although it wasn't cheap.

swallow greenhouses

standclear · 29/10/2015 09:51

Am I allowed yet another whinge bleat of frustration?

Have just been prepping links for tonight (as usual) on word doc and feel such a failure Blush.

I know it is traditionally at this point in the month when I think "oh if only I had continued shredding paper clutter for 15 mins a day" or "if only I had done all the missions" etc then the house would be in a much better state than it is.

And, as per usual, I have just looked at the final mission of the week and how I wish I only had to do hoovering in the sitting room... . If I had managed the missions every day then I wouldn't have such a mound of chores waiting for me now.

Also, I really, really had intended and wanted to get the house sorted in October, because I know from bitter experience that November is spent largely preparing for Christmas (partic if you live abroad because of parcels etc).

But then, dd was ill first week of Oct and at home and I found it difficult to get anything done, had visitors second/third week, dh has been away this past week and I've had a few days of illness in between.

And here I am, it is the end of October again, the house is in a pitiful state and I know, I know, I should be sorting it out instead of sitting here typing about it but aaarrrggghhhhhhhh; why can't I make more progress? I want to make proper decluttering progress, not just maintainence progress ifyswim. I only have one child, volunteer two or three half days a week, do approx nine hrs paid work a week ... I should have time!!!!!!!

Feel crap frankly Blush

Sorry everyone ... as you were Grin

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standclear · 29/10/2015 09:53

x posts!

Great to 'see you' Whoknows I've been wondering how you've been getting on! Hope all is well?

[Love the greenhouse chat btw !]

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standclear · 29/10/2015 10:00

Quite like this green one

Yes, I am procrastinating now [turns off screen

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