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KONDO Thread 9

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Iqueen · 12/07/2015 09:43

Kondo your Home and your Life. Live the JOY!

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missmakesstuff · 18/09/2015 18:45

Made a mammoth effort today in one of our rooms that usually ends up as a dumping ground for things we don't want to look at! It had bags of clothes leftover from the last children's sale I did. I'd been holding on to them as I felt they were too expensive at the time to give away, too nice, barely worn etc. I think I find it do hard to give away baby clothes as I'll have to admit that there won't be anymore newborns...
Anyway, I've sorted it into one bag to put on the local fb selling site, if it doesn't go it'll go to charity, two massive bags for charity that will go before I change my mind, and a couple of things for friends that I know they'll appreciate. I feel so much better for doing it. I also kondo'd my books, they all went this morning, and I've added to my kindle wish list the ones I have that I want to re read.
I got all dhs books off the shelves so he can do those and I've arranged a few knick knacks of his (geeky star trek stuff) on the shelves in their place, so he can see what a difference it'll make.
I've had a really bad day being anxious and depressed about ds lack of sleep, he's only had about 45 mins all day, so just thinking about what I've managed is making me feel better. I've still got bags of stuff sitting around but at least I know it's leaving!

exastris it's a start! My dd seems to find it easier when we talk about things going to someone who will love them. What really surprised me was how easily she sorted through her clothes, it was painless! I even had to persuade her to hang on to some things as she wouldn't have had anything left!

missmakesstuff · 21/09/2015 11:38

All books have gone to charity today, we are a house of about 20 adultvbooks and probably around 30 childrens now, never thought I'd say that!
I did have a little wobble when I'd seen dh had given away a book I gave him whence moved in together and one dd gave him for fathers day. I've realised though that what is more important is the memory of those gifts rather than the actual gifts, so they can go.
I've got papers to do today advice been looking up creative things to do with the sentimental things like new baby cards etc.
I'm hoping doing all this will give me head space plus physical space to get creative again.

Kiwirose · 21/09/2015 15:25

yay, I've done towels and sheets and the airing cupboard looks great now. Still wondering if I have too many towels though, but I guess I will see how I go. I can always re Kondo later. Did coats too but ran out of steam before shoes and bags so I suppose they will have to wait for another day.

Feeling good that I have started the process though. (although there does seem like masses to go - but a journey of 1000 miles starts with the first step)

ThereGoesaTenner · 22/09/2015 17:31

Hi! Can I join?
I'm new to this Marie Kondo technique, someone I was talking to mentioned her yesterday. I'm intrigued. I do like to keep things sometimes and I've been using the question "Have I used or looked at it in the past year?" But I think her technique might actually help me get rid of the things I'm finding hard.

I do wonder though how a noisy fire engine toy can spark joy in me! I can't get rid of that, my son will cry. And what do you do with sentimental things like balloon's from birth of baby and cord clamp etc. I have a newspaper from the day my son was born - do I still keep it?
My old college work I don't care for? It seems like everything I de-clutter I end up getting rid of things that I decided to keep the last time I de-cluttered!

I have already gone through mine and my son's clothes and have a big bag to sell/donate. I have 2 smaller bags of misc items and some chunky toys ornamental things I'm not sure what to do with. And God forbid we talk about the tool cupboard! Confused

Anyway, keen to see how others get on!

missmakesstuff · 23/09/2015 06:57

Theregoes welcome!
I found that I struggled with how it was all going to work too, but I tried not to overthink it too much and just started with my.clothes and dcs clothes. Once I got my eye in as it were it became easy. In two weeks I've exited approx 7 ikea bags full of clothes.and books from the house, with even dh and dd taking part. I've not done toys yet but I'm going to work on the principle that if it's broken or complete tut that is faulty in some way it goes, if it's too young or never played with it goes, and then if my daughter loves or loved it then it stays. I've had to keep some hideous fairy Disney type stories that I hate when we did books, but my daughter lives them so they stayed. Equally there were books she didn't love as much but I wanted to keep for ds so they stayed. It was a compromise.
Good luck! I'm still on papers, trying to do a. Category a week until xmas.

wherehaveigonewrong · 23/09/2015 07:36

Im struggling with too much sparking joy still. Think ill have to re-kondo categories to see if a second look helps.

ThereGoesaTenner · 23/09/2015 12:21

Thank you, missmakesstuff that sounds like a plan for the toys. I did bag some up, but inevitably my son found them and started to coincidently play with them!
I'm going to try not to think about when I get to the sentimental things I have a bitter sweet relationship with. The reason I thought I'd start this was because I've had a rough few years and thought her method could help me reason with coming to terms with the past in a way. "Release the past and bring in the future" and all that. See if it works!

I know I have paperwork from 10 years ago that can go! Blush
It's the tools and cables and leads that I really don't know what they're for so are just shoved into a bag and forgotten about! I just pass things to him, he makes them work and then... Tada! I may have to go through it all with DP sometime because I will not have the faintest idea about any of it! (plus he isn't one for throwing things out either!)

I have 2 big bags of clothes, and cleared the coat hooks and emptied out old winter things that I no longer wear... Getting there!
I shall troop on!

missmakesstuff · 23/09/2015 14:41

That's a great start Theregoes I started documents today and now the baby is asleep on me so I've stopped for a bit.

I've found that even sentimental clothing was difficult, old baby clothes etc, even from just a few months ago! I've found loads of ideas of things to do with them though, like making a bear for each child or of their old clothes.
I think that's why sentimental items are left till last, by then you're a pro!
I know what you mean about cables etc, I actually had lost hope that we'd ever get them sorted, but as I've been sorting my own things and the communal things, dh has followed along, which I never would have thought possible! He's not quite at the stage where he can keep only the essential, but he's better than he was.
I'm just going to put aside anything I'm not sure about in small sub categories and give them him to do over a.weekend, it.seems to be.working so far!

ThereGoesaTenner · 23/09/2015 21:12

Done the books earlier, they were quite easy as I don't really re-read books. I'm not a massive book worm, so kept the ones I found "stayed with me" after reading them. Didn't even think I was keeping that many I don't care for! I did get rid of a book I won from a Graphics comp in London, hm, oh well. The living room I guess looks more open as I also moved the bookcase and took the other cupboard out because it ended up being empty!

My son's baby things... Sad
I know one thing I'm definitely not getting rid of is my son's drawings and paintings etc. from nursery and that. Nope. I would sit there slowly throwing them into a bag whilst crying otherwise!

Now I'm just stuck a bit. Confused

ExAstris · 24/09/2015 03:49

Ah, books is the category that sparks most joy for me - we definitely won't end up minimalist with books. Have hundreds, love them all. I did get rid of maybe a dozen, but I'm a bookworm and an avid re-reader (often in preference to reading new material; I find it soothing). Trying to get DH to agree to me putting in some built-in bookshelves next to the chimneybreast.

I Kondoed carrier bags, and now have a large bagful to take to the recycling thingie at the supermarket, a smaller bagful of the most suitable that will get used as dog poo-bags, and a small pile of samosa'ed ones for reusing.

Going to Kondo DS2's clothes tomorrow, which are currently all handmedowns from DS1, then buy any replacements in the Tu sale.

Youcantscaremeihavechildren · 24/09/2015 18:17

Theregoes I can't bear to throw away baby things either. Instead I've got a scrapbook, which we made together, of all my daughters preschool and yr R drawings, reports, pictures etc.
There's loads of ideas on pinterest of what to do with baby clothes, cards etc, I'm planning a few things over the next few months, like making a bear for each of my children using their baby clothes.

ThereGoesaTenner · 25/09/2015 15:42

I finished my clothes as my clothes rail was delivered yesterday. I have another pile of clothes I don't care for. But it seems I would have no clothes if I did get rid of the ones I don't want! It's weird how different the room looks though.
My DP seems adamant that this wont work, ha! He's really dismissive of her approach but I don't care. It's me doing it, not him.

The thing with my son's baby stuff is... I didn't have a good experience, but I got my son out of it. That's the bitter sweet. The cord clamp is significant to me, it was put on in a rush before I held my son which I didn't want to happen. It doesn't "spark joy" to me, but feel I should keep it as it's my son's..? I don't know. I have a scrapbook I did through pregnancy with his wristbands, 1st birthday cards and that. I enjoyed doing it throughout my pregnancy but now when I look at it I just remember the upset. Meh. When I get to that I'll have a think.

I'm dreading doing the paperwork because I have heaps of old things everywhere! Notebooks, sketchbooks... Too much!

homeaway · 25/09/2015 18:32

You can create a photo book with the art work if you can't keep it all. Maybe you are not ready for the sentimental categories yet , try and find another category that is easier for you to do first ? With the baby things if there are outfits that bring you happy memories then maybe consider keeping them ? The bringing joy part has to sometimes be tipped on it's head, for example an umbrella does not bring me joy, but it does stop me from getting wet so in that sense it does bring me joy, the same goes for pots and pans, they bring joy because I could not cook without them. The further along you get in this process the better you get at it and you will probably find that your mindset changes. When I am out looking at clothes for instance I only buy something if it has a place in my wardrobe and I am sure that i will wear it, before I would buy something and make do and now I don't.

ThereGoesaTenner · 26/09/2015 23:28

Hmm I guess I'm only at the beginning. Hopefully my mindset will change and I'll be able to make a good decision about them things. I read the book last night and what it says about "holding on to the past or fearing the future" struck a cord. I'll probably end up throwing everything that's sentimental of my son's in a box and putting it in the attic forever, ha!

I've gathered paperwork from around the house and am going to go through it tomorrow. It's in a big box... But I don't have a shredder! I think my advantage is that I've only lived alone for 2 1/2 years so haven't had the chance to accumulate the typical stuff an average household would have. Just the abundance of things I was given when I first moved in that I've never used or needed! Blush

Youcantscaremeihavechildren · 27/09/2015 10:43

I think it definitely gets easier as you move through the categories, I've been coming around to gradually moving on from some of the sentimental things I've been keeping as I've sone other categories, as all of them have had some sentimental things that have turned up as I've done them.
I shredded papers but you could always just rake the address section or the important info and keep that in a bag aside for a bonfire, borrow a shredder or just sit down in front of the telly one evening and tear it all up! Things,like warranties etc,that I was keeping just went straight to recycling.

I don't know what category is after paper, need to look it up. Currently trying to get dh to get rid of his paper, tons of cycling magazines he'll read once but has kept..

ThereGoesaTenner · 27/09/2015 15:40

I think I'll go through the sentimental stuff and think about the purpose as well as the "spark joy" concept.

I am absolutely useless when it comes to paperwork. I keep everything because I worry I'll throw the wrong things out. I have a question... Do you need to keep ALL gas service check/records or just the latest? And I've changed electric/gas services a few times and have everything they've sent - I just need the current supplier stuff, right, if there's no out-standing credit to be paid back?
I'm going through it all now and I've put everything I need to re-consider in a folder, well it's spilling out, and so far piled everything up I know I don't need.

I've thrown out DP magazines and stuff I know he wont read. They've been left and forgotten about for months! He's adamant he doesn't NEED to throw anything! Angry
I've got my vertical "urgent attention" file now, ha, so hopefully I wont be rummaging through old bank statements to try and find the nursery letter I need to reply to, which rarely happens but still, things get buried!

I wrote down the checklist that MsUrsa posted on page 20 so I don't have to check back. All of it. Blush
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The next thing is spare change, reward cards, envelopes, binders, notepads and general office stuff.

Roonerspism · 29/09/2015 08:43

Just Kondo-d the fridge.

Mould doesn't bring me joy Blush

Iqueen · 29/09/2015 11:24

Hmm good idea, Roonerspism!

I fell off the MK wagon all last week, and am busy catching up on housework, which also went by the board. My fridge is nearly empty, and I thought it would be a good opportunity to clean it, today. Smile

I find it really odd that, when I have a slutty nice, relaxing day/week, I look back and think "what a waste!". Because I don't seem to have achieved anything worthwhile! mental note: must plan joyful activities for my down time! Grin

I'm back on it now! All my kondo successes are holding firm and I have set aside some clothes that I can re-purpose into tiny garments for GD1, due in November. Right now RL is calling - the laundry, some admin and food shopping are calling, but I'm eyeing some exasperating komono items for the next CS bag.

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ExAstris · 30/09/2015 01:59

DH and I decided finally on Monday that we're not having a 3rd child, so I Kondoed baby DS2's clothes today - large To Go pile and a small "sentimental" stash of newborn stuff popped in an empty wipe packet box under the bed for when I get to that category. It's amazing how storage just shows up when needed, isn't it? Maternity clothes can go too now.

Iqueen · 30/09/2015 09:30

ExAstris Your post made me think back to when my oldest 2 were born - no Pill!

Children, more or less, 'just arrived', to 3 nighties, 3 vests, 6 plastic pants, 24 Terry nappies a drawerful of hand-knits and hand-smocked dresses/rompers, plus a bath washing-up bowl and a carry-cot n transporter! Nappies were boiled in an enamel nappy-pail and lid on the stove and 3 pyrex bottles were either boiled or soaked in Milton!

Happy (simple) days! And no need for Marie Kondo. Grin

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ExAstris · 30/09/2015 11:41

Iqueen, we actually have deliberately had fairly few things for both babies. We use cloth nappies, and I have two carriers (one for baby, one for toddler size), minimal clothes, no baby bath or pushchair, no fancy bottle stuff (breastfed) or "baby holders". I like it that way. Older DS has always had minimal toys, he plays better that way - only issue is stopping well-meaning relatives buying him tons of junk! One side of the family in particular buys stuff that's way too old for him, meaning I have to store it in my small house - 1 thing given for his 4th birthday is labelled age 10+!

Marie Kondo is changing my mindset towards gifts, though. Now I am ruthless as stuff is coming in and exchange or donate things that are completely unsuitable rather than them hanging round out of guilt for ages before getting rid. Realising the gift is in fact knowing they've thought of us and not the actual toy/clothes/trinket is a revelation.

Iqueen · 30/09/2015 12:41

ExAstris GOOD for you! Flowers

Babies and children, need much, much less than many parents are led to believe. And what they do need, is easily provided by loving parents, such as: time, talking, reading, play, cuddles, and experiences.

The trouble with relatives and gifts, is that, to them, there is no concept of 'enough' and they always think that the children are budding Einsteins!

It's so easy to look back, and think that compared with the excess today, we were deprived! In the context of the time, we weren't.

It was interesting hearing about your older DS and play. As a teacher, I found that children's attention span, generally, was very poor. As we are finding with kondoing, clutter is not just physical: our minds and the ability to focus on other important aspects of life, are disrupted by too much Stuff.

I recently heard a programme about how I-readers are altering the way authors are having to write (in order to sell). Apparently, there is less 'deep' reading being done, because people who do read are doing it in very short spells. So, books have to be very fast moving and dramatic, because attention is waning. Not good, I think, for people who need to read 'deeply' and understand fully what they are reading. Sad

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Gwlondon · 30/09/2015 19:14

It is so addictive and makes me feel so impatient. I have only properly done 3 drawers of clothes but I am folding differently everything I can get my hands on!!

Alibabsandthe40Musketeers · 01/10/2015 10:57

Hi everyone - I am new to the thread. I started reading Marie's book a couple of months ago but I wasn't in the right place mentally to be getting rid of things. I've read through this thread and some of the previous one and your stories are very inspiring :)

I picked it up again over the weekend and I've been mulling over in my head how and when to start. Yesterday I suddenly got hugely impatient and jumped in and started on my clothes. I did pyjamas first, then moved onto summer clothes, bras, loungewear, winter clothes - ended up doing my whole wardrobe and getting rid of 5 big carrier bags of stuff, 4 to the charity shop and one for the bin.
Very weirdly, I found what she said about finding the storage things you need to be totally true, and the folding thing has clicked. I love it. So much so that I attacked the front of the fridge, and even DH has made some headway with cables.
I talked to him about the idea and he is on board with it so that's good. I am planning to return to work within the next year after nearly 8 years being a SAHM, and we are both keen to have the household and life in general running smoothly before that happens!

Next things to tackle are the boys clothes, the freezer, and the airing cupboard.
I am slightly going against what she says, because I just can't have a whole load of stuff out all at once, so I am going to do it bit by bit but try and stick with one category in a block of hours.

One thing I am doing though is looking at everything in the house with a critical eye, and if I hate it then it is going to get chucked immediately.

ItsMeImHere · 01/10/2015 12:16

I would like to jump on the Kondo-wagon if I may.

I have spent a few weeks reading the threads (and repeatedly forgetting to get the book) so I am adjusting to the concepts and other posters' ideas.

Already, from just ^reading^ about the Kondo concept, I have felt changes in myself and perceive my 'things' differently. I Kondo'd my clothes because I discovered I get no joy from anything I wear, save just three garments! It took me a total of 6 minutes and I have only 7 items left mostly for fear of becoming a naturalist.

I have moved on to paperwork. Just finished dumping everything in my recycling, shredded, of course. Now have two neat files that contain only what is actually needed.

While I am still new to the process, I would like to share one idea that made binning DDs pictures/projects/school reprts far easier. I created an email account for her, photographed the above paraphanalia, and emailed the pictures to her new account. This way they are stored safely for her, nothing is lost and the digital space it takes up doesn't impede the house nor will it hers when she is older.

I will pop in to ask a few questions of the more seasoned Kondoers as I go through the DCs' clothes.