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Kondoing away the chaos: Kondo thread 7 for yet more life-changing magic

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LinzerTorte · 07/02/2015 14:58

The Book: The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up: The Japanese Art of Decluttering and Organizing by Marie Kondo, Cathy Hirano

Summary of the process link from mipmop

Article of top tips by Marie Kondo

Thread 6
Thread 5
Thread 4
Thread 3
Thread 2
Thread 1

Tips and links thread

And BeCool's copy of Coughles list of ORDER from Thread 2 for everyone:

"ORDER TO DECLUTTER/LOCATE THE JOY*

Clothes folding by rummy
Books
Papers
CDs
DVDs
Skincare products
Make-up
Accessories
Valuables (passports, credit cards, etc.)
Electrical equipment and appliances (digital cameras, electric cords, anything that seems vaguely ‘electric’)
Household equipment (stationery and writing materials, sewing kits, etc.)
Household supplies (expendables like medicine, detergents, tissues, etc.)
Kitchen goods/ food supplies
Other (If you have many items related to a particular interest or hobby, such as ski equipment, then treat these as a single subcategory.)

KonMari stresses that sentimental items should be left till the end. So for example, when you are doing papers, don't include photos of your children, love letters, old school reports etc, leave anything with a sentimental connection for later."

*As discussed in previous threads, your order for decluttering and finding the joy/spark/recognizing may be different to recommendations.

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TimeGoesBy · 09/02/2015 09:18

Wow coatandhat I love those cubes. Totally appeal to the over the top holiday planning mode that consumes me every year. Am definitely going to invest. Linzer I was looking at these on amazon. I wonder if they would be same quality. Love to know how many I'd need too. Would definitely bring me the world of joySmile

LinzerTorte · 09/02/2015 09:19

That's a good tip, Trumpton - I've never thought of packing by day rather than by category of clothing. I usually take slightly more underwear than the number of days that we're on holiday to allow for accidents, socks getting wet, etc. and slightly fewer tops, trousers, etc. as the DC can often get two days' wear out of them (especially if we go to the seaside and they're in their swimming costumes for a good part of the day) but inevitably end up taking more clothes than we need. Ziploc bags are great for wet swimming costumes too, although the ones we have are probably a bit small to fit a whole day's outfit into.

bring I have a bag full of knitting stuff that I don't know what to do with; I did take it up again briefly for the blanket projects a few years ago but just don't seem to have the time (or motivation) now. However, DD2 enjoys knitting occasionally and the DC often need wool for school so I don't feel like I can get rid of much of it. I've put it away out of sight for now and will deal with it when I get to komono!

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LinzerTorte · 09/02/2015 09:25

Time I was looking at those too - I really like the look of them, but unfortunately they don't deliver to Austria. I could always have them sent to my parents' address and ask them to send them on to me, but don't want them to have to spend too much on postage. I suppose they'd be fairly light to post, but might be a bit on the bulky side. If anyone does order them, please let me know! Unfortunately we'll be going on our summer holiday just before I visit my parents, otherwise I could have picked them up when I'm there.

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mabelbabel · 09/02/2015 10:34

I did a bit of a toy Kondo with my girls yesterday (8 and 5). I was pleasantly surprised at how easily they made decisions. I tried to bite my tongue, but I had to say "are you sure?!" at a few of the things they declared themselves finished with. Overall it was very successful even if there is still some way to go. We now have quite a pile of jigsaws, cuddly toys, games etc to get rid of. Think we might have a table top sale, and take the remainder to the charity shop.

mabelbabel · 09/02/2015 10:35

(sorry that this is not strictly related to the current chat!). I am also lusting after the packing cubes...

anzu66 · 09/02/2015 10:50

The conversation moves so fast!

For shampoo and such like when traveling what I've been doing is this: shortly before traveling, whenever a bottle currently in use looks like it is about to end, I put it aside unfinished and open a new bottle. The new bottle keeps getting used at home, the mostly-finished bottle gets taken with, (topped up from the new bottle before leaving if necessary). The plan is to use it up completely while away, and toss the empty bottle. It takes a little practice to get the amount right, but seem to have it sorted now. Works with toothpaste, also.

And I actually keep aside socks and knickers that are almost too far gone to wear specially to take on holiday. Particularly appreciated on the last couple of days of holiday when there is no chance to wash clothes and get them dry in time, as I can wear and then toss. Also means not so much of that huge pile of washing that, I at least, used to always end up with when just back from holidays.

And also pack zip-lock bags with washing powder and spices (not in the same bag!) as we usually self cater, and shops tend to sell these in quantities way bigger than one needs for that amount of time. The amount left over at the end of the holiday is usually none, or small enough to not feel guilty about tossing.

Maybe that sounds over the top, but I'm the one that has to do all the lifting of luggage (DH has back problems), so anything that minimises weight and effort is appreciated.

On shoes by the door. We used to have one of those Ikea shoe racks, but the bits where it folds out broke, and Ikea won't sell replacements to that section, but told us we should just buy a brand-new shoe rack (so the same bits can break all over again!?).
So then I copied something I saw one of my neighbours do: tiny bookcase just by the door - ours is a cheap and small one from Ikea. Forgot the name, but think Billy style, but not quite as high or as wide. For three of us, all shoes, for all seasons, fit on (it's a tight squeeze!), and as soon as they no longer fit, I know we have to weed some out. Keys and folding umbrellas get placed on the very top shelf. Then attach a curtain rod level with the topmost shelf, and use a nice bit of cloth as a curtain so that you don't actually have to look at all the shoes there, but can draw it aside when you do need to get at them.

Wannabe I'm impressed that you want to learn Japanese. It's a lot of work! Where in Germany are you?

HoHoHappyDays · 09/02/2015 11:28

About to start on the Kitchen... wish me luck!

leeloo1 · 09/02/2015 12:28

hearmyroar that's a great idea-i always have the problem of going back to half sorted stuff and not being able to work out what was what, then it gets buried and whole heap of komono is born! Working out how you'll leave it half done beforehand is genius!

MangoBiscuit · 09/02/2015 14:15

I can't remember who suggested collecting all the odds and ends in boxes by category, but it was a fab idea. I covered our spare table with labelled boxes, and when I found odds as I kondo'd, I've been storing them in the relevant box. When I get to that category to kondo, it's a breeze to add one box of odds to the bulk of stuff that's being collected up. Very satisfying when one of them goes too as it's a clear visual indicator of my progress.

Also not sure who was having a wobble about the empty book shelves, but thank you. Your post(s) prompted me to have another go at books, and to arrange the remaining ones nicely. After a good bit of pinterest browsing, our large shelves now have photo frames, ornaments, and a light, as well as all my joyful books. It looks balanced and relaxed, not cramped. And it's the first thing I see walking into the room. Very pleased.

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HoHoHappyDays · 09/02/2015 16:28

Ohhelpohnoitsa You need a few of these :P

ItIsntJustAPhase · 09/02/2015 18:01

My son is very much enjoying burning all our old paperwork. Who needs the scouts.

Have another load to check through tonight.

Am getting excited at the idea of going through my wardrobe come nicer weather. I'm getting quite good at letting go now clothes this past year.

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Coatandhat · 09/02/2015 18:47

Linzer and Time we each take a shirt folder and a half cube (2 for DH) and have our own colour to make them easy to identify. In mine and DD's folder I put dresses/skirts/shorts/tops. DS's folder has shorts and tops and DH's just tops (he always takes too much!!). DC and I use half cube for undies/swimwear and DH has a half cube for shorts/swim shorts (rolled up) and another for undies/socks. We also have a tube cube for plugs & chargers and a few others if I think anything else would be better kept together. I bought the folders some years ago and they are better for packing clothes in the traditional way (not rolling or folding a la Kondo) but they're still good for just taking out of suitcase and stashing straight in tiny wardrobe space in holiday mobile homes. Also we were driving to France and doing more sightseeing because the weather wasn't reliable whereas for the last few years we've flown to hotter places which need fewer clothes. So I'm having to change my way of thinking and take less, buy toiletries there, hire towels and do laundry because it dries so fast. It's liberating!

Coatandhat · 09/02/2015 18:59

Linzer forgot to say - Eagle Creek are definitely better quality than the Ikea ones but, on the other hand, they're only used a few times a year. Let's face it, they're basically just dividing up your suitcase like shoeboxes in a drawer Wink. So unless you travel a lot or are planning to go backpacking with loads of different cubes in a rucksack, I wouldn't worry. Did you look on ebay UK - there are quite a few on there in different colours - don't know whether del'y to Austria is possible though.... By the way, you can find packing videos on YouTube for other ideas on how to do it!

Starface · 09/02/2015 19:01

Hello, haven't posted for a bit. Still here. Been hovering between categories trying to get rid of stuff (with varying degrees of success). But officially started paperwork today Shock. Will be a beast, but good to do Grin.

Just wanted to say, since kondoing clothes I now fold DD'S clothes in outfits not separate items. Inevitably everything needs a wash at the end of the day anyway. Now it is quicker and she is always wearing stuff that works as an outfit, even when her dad dresses her Wink. It's extreme but I like it...

Pointlessfan · 09/02/2015 19:42

Well, I survived my first day at work. I even enjoyed some of it once I stopped crying! DH and DD were still in one piece when I got home, he is exhausted!!
I have noted lots of things in my classroom that can be kondoed and once I've found my feet I'm going to make a start. I think it will be hard to do much at home in the week but I'm going to try and catch up with the thread every evening to keep myself motivated for the weekends.

NuzzleandScratch · 09/02/2015 19:44

Hello! I was on one of the earlier Kondo threads, but for various reasons, haven't had much child-free time lately for decluttering! I did however sell on eBay for the very first time, and did really well with some old baby items, even making a £10 profit on a highchair I bought 3 years ago!

Hoping to get back on the Kondo wagon soon! I have a growing pile of paperwork waiting to be sorted!

I saw mention up thread of a book 2, has she brought out another one?! I looked online, but couldn't see anything. I'm excited at the thought of another book, please enlighten me! Grin

ItIsntJustAPhase · 09/02/2015 19:47

Well done, Pointless. Glad it was okay.

HermioneGrangerHair · 09/02/2015 19:49

Congratulations Pointless! Flowers That's really made me smile!

Starface, I know what you mean about hovering. I think it's sometimes best to relax about the categories and the order, and just do something, however small, to remind yourself what it feels like. Well done for getting past the inertia.

Starface · 09/02/2015 20:03

Thanks hermione. Although it didn't feel inert! I've been getting rid of big things like furniture that don't fit in the order. But it's definitely harder to maintain the sense of achievement without the categories. Feels good to be in order...

Kelly1814 · 09/02/2015 20:06

Love these threads.

HearMyRoar · 09/02/2015 20:07

On the subject of packing me and dh tend to just take hand luggage with minimal stuff and then take clothes to a launderette to be washed when needed. We tend to go to cities so it's really easy to find somewhere that will wash, dry and iron our clothes for a few quid in a few hours. It always feels rather luxurious as I never iron at home Grin

I don't think we are going to manage konmarie levels of minimal paperwork but we are getting to having much less. I really don't think she can own a house as our mortgage and leasehold stuff takes up a plastic envelop thing all on its own. Dh had discovered loads of sentimental stuff as well that week need sorting. I've decided that I'm not going to buy a new shredder. We're just bagging up stuff to shred and I'll stick it in the confidential waste at work.