if you don't have a toilet brush, and hate bleach, what do you use on skid marks?

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Sorry for the title, and no, I'm not the poo troll.
So I get the idea about no toilet brushes; they are grim
But I also get the impression bleach is much maligned on MN.
So, when DH leaves skid marks down the toilet, how do you get rid of them?
Currently he squirts bleach on them, but he gets through gallons of the stuff. What is a better option?

Haven't read the whole thread
But on rare occasions it happens we pour hot water over it and flush it

I just have one of the loo duck things.

I hate loo brushes. When we had one I was the only person who used it correctly and didn't leave poo on the bristles and then put it back in the holder where one of the DC's could whip it out to use it to pretend to be Mike the Knight.

My Mum never had one either, my brother has SEN and anything in the bathroom that was not nailed down often used to be thrown out of the bathroom window onto the patio below. Toothpaste landing on you is one thing, a bog brush is something else!

toilet brushes make me cringe. I've never seen one that hasn't been discoloured and/or with flecks of poo on it.
I've never put my hand down a toilet to scrub it, have always just used bleach.

I haven't seen disposable brushes here, South America, but I do know that standard loo brushes don't get right under the rim. At least the way toilets here are shaped.

Only on MN is it deemed more hygienic to shove your hands down the loo rather than use a loo brush

Use the duck fresh disposable same as HMC and use domestos white for limescale. So not claiming any green credentials but definitely clean.

I have a loo brush, but I do understand the desire not to use them. Disposable cloths and rubber gloves work just as well.

With regards to bleach, I never bleach my toilet. Bleach is not a very good cleaner and is too easily desensitised. I use toilet duck to clean the bowl, flush it, and then go over the seat, rim and bowl with disinfectant (way stronger than bleach!)

Bleach isn't a good cleaner?

Disposable wipes. I understand the toilet brush thing I wouldn't use one

oh lord have mercy why such horror at the poor loo brush?

I do remember Aggy and Maggie or whatever the cleaning ladies were called, they were abominated by loo brushes. but to have a bucket of rags?

I really don't want to put my hand down the loo. I mean you'd have to wash your hands really well if you were preparing food afterwards wouldn't you? I mean the IDEA of a bog brush may be vile and they do need to be cleaned and binned regularly but to put your HANDS down that makes me heave more than using a bog brush.

Also it has to be terrible for the environment for us all to be using such great oceans of bleach when we want fresh water from our water tables, water systems that have potential to still work for our grandchildren if we don't poison the planet with our germ phobias. having said that I do NOT want to put my hands down the bog!

How many people clean the bog with gloves and how many bare handed?

Nobody cleans the loo barehanded. Surely?

i do have a toilet brush, but I find a quick wipe with loo roll much more efficient

in our house everyone is responsible for tackling his or her own skiddies when they are fresh. fresh ones are no bother at all.

and i do it BARE HANDED. no less hygienic than wiping my toddler's arse.

This seems to be a popular MN debate!

Glad to see their is a wide variety of ways to clean the loo, so it's not like there is a right and a wrong way I guess, I would hate to be the only one who didn't get the memo.

I have always copied my mum and been against loo brushes and always used bleach. Hot water from the bathroom tap is great too. But my new cleaner asked me to buy a bog brush so I thought fair enough, she's the one doing it...even though I always gave it a wipe and bleach before she came as I would be mortified at a someone having to clean any of our actual poo,no matter how small (and DHs piss )..anyway will continue to bleach before she comes so there will be no faecal matter on the bristles.

That loo paper trick is good, especially if not at home and you have to improvise.

I walked into a cubicle at work yesterday and there was a bog brush just lying on the floor. I thought of this thread.

We have new toilets with small puddles of water in them. They save the environment by using less water

Despite flushing them on the biggest flush possible and willing them to flush more, it just isn't good enough. Not only do you get skid marks every time, but becomes brown and scummy below the waterline from the wee. I despair. Even bleach every day does not do the job. When they start to look murky, I get the brush out and the heavy duty limescale remover and scrub the u-bend really hard. Then bleach again. I am starting to think a chemical toilet would just cut out the middle bit.

Skid marks below the water, a squirt of washing up liquid or laundry gel usually does the trick. No need for a loo brush. The enzymes in the laundry gel actually... ahem... digest the poo and break it down. More effective than bleach and a smidgen more environmentally friendly.

Bleach kills germs but it doesn't clean dirt so well. Therefore it takes more bleach to get the marks off. You could add a small amount of bleach to disinfect it after you've flushed the washing up liquid, if you really want. Still uses a lot less "nasty" chemicals than trying to do it with bleach alone.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen, that's right. It's an ok disinfectant but only if you actually wash the surface first. It's as good at removing dirt as plain water because it doesn't have any cleaning agents in it. "Bleaching" and "cleaning" are very different.

The water in the toilet bowl comes from the cistern. I doubt that microbes can jump from a skid mark to the water in seconds. Even if they could, I don't think you are going to catch more germs from fresh loo water than you would from a park bench.

I have no problem with people using loo brushes for actual cleaning - they are just a toilet accessory like a plunger. It's leaving them out for the cleaning of random skid marks that I find strange.

sad to say the water in our toilets is probably cleaner than what a lot of people in the world have to drink.
putting your hand in a toilet pan to clean it isn't going to kill you.

It won't kill you but it's vile, why would you choose to, oh just YUK!!

Because it is no more vile than a house spider. You might not like it, but there is nothing intrinsically dangerous or yuk about it.

Clean it with regular filler cleaner and loo roll whilst fresh.

Toilet!

Oh yes, another MN 'thing' bleach just whitens the dirt it didn't clean it

I'm sorry but putting your bare hands down the loo when you don't actually have to when either you or someone else has just had a poo is pretty vile in my book