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Remember, remember to Fly through November, but Fledglings will chatter a lot

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BlueEyeshadow · 31/10/2013 11:06

If you are strugging with C.H.A.O.S. (can't have anyone over syndrome) and S.T.U.F.F. (something that undermines family fun) then this is the thread where we (loosely) follow the step-by-step Flylady housekeeping system (in our own, unique, relaxed style) with lots of chat, support and Wine and Cake along the way.

This little-and-often system is designed so that you can follow a series of steps and routines each day (which gradually become second nature) in zones of the house which are designated weekly; defining and minimising housework - which in theory should leave you with loads more time to do someting more interesting instead!

At the same time it is intended to reduce that panicky "rabbit in headlights" feeling when you are overwhelmed and everything needs doing all at once. No problem if you miss a day or two; just jump right back in and it will all come around next month again!

We advise not signing up to receive the Flylady e-mails as you will be inundated! All the information you need will be linked here on a daily basis.

From the first of the month, we will be following Flylady's steps and routines using a three-pronged approach (dependent on the stage everyone is at):

  • start or repeat baby steps
  • repeat baby steps + do 15 mins a day decluttering in the current zone
  • reinforce babysteps and do daily missions if you have finished decluttering.

[And if you are really enthusiastic and have finished decluttering - you can go on to detailed deep cleaning in each zone.]

More info here on getting started and Flying lessons. Here's the launch pad for more experienced fledglings. Don't be put off by the barf-tastic language of the site - the underlying system is sound!

Humungous thanks to SlimChance for leading us through October and such a copy-and-pasteable OP.... Thanks

All welcome!!

OP posts:
BitchytheGreat · 27/11/2013 12:12

To do list:
important emails
banking errand x1 done need to go to bigger bank in next town
paperwork
sort ds' pack up tea
sort training kit
make sure lounge is tidy
meeting
comp for ds
BED at a reasonable time.
Run errands in next town
empty car
1 load washing on
patch test ready for dying on fri

GoingGoingGoth · 27/11/2013 12:27

Done
Beds
S&S
Dd to school
Washing up
Laundry on
Dry laundry away
Drape laundry
Job applications (done 4!)

To do
Mop kitchen & bathroom floors
Bake chocolate cake (mince pies were a bit hard)

RIGHT THAT'S IT, no more procrastination, I'm off to mop the floors (once I've made the cakes)

BitchytheGreat · 27/11/2013 12:41

Argh.. hit post too soon

Also done
put bicarb down smelly kitchen sink drain
empty draining board
take out recycling
take out rubbish
important phone call x1
find map book for later cos i will get lost
find allen key set for ds' kit bag

Load and run dishwasher
wipe down benched
push hoover through the room middles downstairs
find tins of biscuits needed later

Fresh pot of special brew on the side... Grin

JustGettingOnWithIt · 27/11/2013 13:38

Hello to Kat and Ellietrying
Waves to everyone else.

Spent the last few days with fearsome stomach bug and gripeing on top of what seems to be an inability to shake off grungy chest and am really exhausted and sick of it. I need energy!

Took myself of to Ikea to warm up and fill myself with free refill coffee in an attempt to provide enough energy to tackle the rest of the day, and immediate problem of cleaning ruddy mould off windows and panels again. Turn your back for a week and it's back with a vengeance. I swear it's genetically mutating and become bleach intolerant!

feetheart · 27/11/2013 15:16

Just - trying to send some energy your way

Quick Ta da before I pick up the boy and have to wander round for 40 mins before picking up DD - greengrocers and charity shop I think :)

Ta da

  • All up and out
  • Washing up from last night
  • WORK
  • Pay window cleaner - might have to do insides now Hmm
  • Sort paperwork to look for really important document - found really quickly :o which means not much sorting done :(
  • Some of Morning Routine - S&Sx2, washing done but not hung up yet!
  • Return charity shop bags to car boot
  • Sign up for runs I have promised DS we will do (and look for more)
  • Get very cold sitting working with heating off - brisk walk in order
JustGettingOnWithIt · 27/11/2013 16:58

I lied, haven't done them and have decided I'm better off doing paperwork in bed and doing them tommorow. (That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!)

elliepac · 27/11/2013 19:59

Apologies for absence.
Apologies for not catching up.
Apologies for ensuing moan.

Life is really difficult at the moment and I am struggling. Not serious illness difficult but more difficult than normal. You all know i love my job but it is really getting me down at the moment. In the post ofsted world, the stress is unbelievable. I am beginning to doubt myself and am really struggling to keep up with everything i am supposed to be doing and that is being checked regularly by management. DH is working 12 hours a day 7 days a week which means weekends are just the kids and i and all housework etc is falling to me on top of all schoolwork i have to do and i am struggling to keep on top of it all. I am currently sat in a shitheap eating a microwave dinner because i didn't have the energy to cook. Haven't done any christmas shopping as have no time whatsoever without the kids (got a few bits online but haven't even had the chance to pick them up from post office).

I am completely and utterly stressed. Completely and utterly knackered. Completely and utterly fed up of everything.

Disclaimer:- i appreciate there is no serious illness, I have a home, a stable job, i have a dh who loves me and dc's i adore. I am a lucky woman and my YABU head tells me so.

ToffeeWhirl · 27/11/2013 20:12

ellie - actually, I often wonder how couples manage with housework and young children if they both work full time. I am not surprised you are so exhausted. It's awful that your job is bringing you so much stress instead of enjoyment at the moment. It's a familiar tale, unfortunately.

You are allowed to moan all you like, by the way! You don't have to justify it.

Just - so sorry you are ill. Hope you get better soon.

rowing - another one here with a numb face, drinking from a straw! Breezed casually into the dentist, thinking it was going to be straightforward, and staggered out, an hour later, after three injections, feeling a bit lightheaded! My jaw is a bit swollen and bruised now too. Still, it will all be worth it in the end and my dentist is an absolute treasure. Back on Friday for root canal treatment .

Back later to catch up properly on the thread...

AngryBuddha · 27/11/2013 21:20

Feet I sign up for the Santa run in Bedford with 2 of my boys!!

Ta Da

Breakfast
Booked dentist (earliest they can see me is tomorrow, thank god for Codine)
Got boys to school
Did homework with DS4 before school
chat with friend whom son (3) just had a liver transplant 12 days ago, after remove of a cancerous tumour.
Tidy kitchen
D/w
t/d
W/m
Drop forms to school
Dog walk
S&s x2
Coffee with friend
Spoken to mum
Spoken to sister
1hr school run
Haircut ds2 and ds4
Shopping
Dinner
Cleared up

I always have a Huge Ta da list but it is purely fire fighting, no real progress.

Currently have the shakes, presume that is my body trying to fight of the infection. (presuming it is an abscess.)

Swanhilda · 27/11/2013 21:21

Ellie I think you are amazing and incredibly professional. I hope someone somewhere can give you a helping hand, which you deserve. Even lovely jobs can be totally exhausting - the best jobs always want all of us, alas.

Today has been fine. Still in a shitheap of sorts but managed to deal with children and enjoy their company!

Helped at Beavers
Introduced a new helper for D of E
signed off from FT
helped dd write a debate, Ds2 drew a vase and Ds1 wrote a very convincing ballad. All this required a lot of "reinforcement", I'm hoping I can turn ds1 slow decline around...!
Sent two parcels
Took out some library books on medieval England for inevitable Norman projects looming x 2 (two children doing Battle of Hastings Hmm
supper
paperwork

SC my brother in law has moved to London to work, and commutes back at weekends to Ireland, where my sister lives. It was a lifestyle/work related choice. It makes sense on paper but actually is terribly hard, although she justifies it for sake of her children's education salary, green fields etc. She should have moved at the same time; I'm not sure why she didn't just accept it was a necessary evil for a short time. I think in the end, just being with him in same house will be worth it any of irritants, until you can persuade him to move permanently Wink Anyway Brussels sounds like it is very near green fields anyway, in comparison to Big Smoke dwellers like me. But I know what you mean about time running out..and our children's childhoods will have gone, and our youth too, when we thought we had all this time to make decisions/life choices.

Better go and do something useful. But what? [looks around at collapse of civilization). No, think I will save my strength for tomorrow's battles.

AngryBuddha · 27/11/2013 21:23

*off

Swanhilda · 27/11/2013 21:26

Angry that sounds very worrying, the shakes. Should you be doing much atm? certainly not running. Codeine has quite strong effects on me at least, very spacey, mellow, and then serious withdrawal. Please take it easy. That is the only way to beat infections.

Best wishes to your friend's little boy.

AngryBuddha · 27/11/2013 21:47

I took some last night, only because the discomfort was stopping me falling back to sleep. But I have had nothing today except a small glass of whiskey, which I am enjoying at the moment. I Don't do medicine unless I really really have to.
No running!! In fact I have been taking it easy today. (It should of been running and Pilates)... But my life is never still or quiet!!

GoingGoingGoth · 27/11/2013 21:58

Rowing missed you'd been to the dentist, hope you and Toffee are a bit less numb (and not in pain obviously)

Just hope you're wrapped up and taking care of yourself.

Ellie welcome back! it's ok to moan, that's what we're here for. Ofsted do sound like bastards, and Gove is a complete arse

Done
Beds
S&S
Dd to school
Washing up
Laundry on
Dry laundry away
Drape laundry
Job applications (done 4!)
Mop kitchen & bathroom floors
Bake chocolate cake
Dd to woodcraft
Make jelly for Dd packed lunch

BitchytheGreat · 27/11/2013 22:04

Ellie did i ever tell you, you were a genius? You have just reminded my why I am not repeating teacher training. No i don't know why i was even considering it either
I actually think it is harder in some respect when you do have a dh/dp. When you are on your own there is no resentment for other people not doing stuff, you know it is your own problem. You just have a different spin on things.
I know that i have done more stuff of the to do list. cba to find the sodding thing to cross it off though.

Special brew is set on timer so there should be a good pot first thing. Need to set my morning alarm an hour earlier too. THis is not going to be fun. Going to try to sleep tonight. If that fails it will be a heavy dose of vodka in the system tomo to see if that works!!!

BlueEyeshadow · 27/11/2013 22:43

Today has been a bit of a mess. Lost the whole morning to computer problems and general idiocy so hugely behind with work and have important school meeting in the morning which is going to put me further behind. It's just one blooming thing after another at the moment. Why did the dratted machine have to pick today to pack up?

Sorry to hear of all the hassles and exhaustion around the place. Going - hear hear.

OP posts:
dizzyday07 · 28/11/2013 02:49

It is certainly a day for the dentist as I have been too! Mine was just a checkup - the first for over a decade (I kid you not!) - and apart from a clean and a polish the teeth I have remaining are pretty ok. Phew! Due to the timings of the appointments I had an hours wait between DDs and mine so was pretty much a nervous wreck by the time I got in there but DD gave me a hug to try to makee me feel better so felt I had to be brave and hold it together for her sake.

Slim - DD is a much better swimmer than me. I have 1 stroke and 1 speed and its not very fast! The 80 lengths is only 2k and others on here have run farther in the last week or so. i would struggle to run for a bus! Aiming to do the 5k Swimathon in March though which I will need to train for and not just wing it like I did the 2.5k this year!

Ta-Da

  • Menu planned and food bought
  • Fretted about the dentist
  • Finished sewing 2 quilt blocks
  • Fretted about the dentist
  • Went to the dentist
  • D/W on
  • Kitchen tidied and sink shined (DH cooked)!
Sillybillybob · 28/11/2013 06:26

ellie I'm sorry you are having such a hard time. I'm afraid I don't have any words of wisdom though.

Am at work again this morning and then I need to wash and dry the spare bedding and clean the toilets as I have a friend coming this weekend. She's an old friend and won't care that my house is horrendous but even I have some basic standards!

Also need to call the Council back to try and arrange a medical waste bin. We 'be just gone to fortnightly collections but DS creates do much extra rubbish with his nappies, incontinence pads and waste from his feeds and packaging... I'm massively stressed about it because we just don't have space in our bin for it all and it's over a fortnight since I called the council to sort it and they only called me back yesterday!

Also need to menu plan for the week ahead and then Thursday night has been allocated as my craft night on which I am allowing myself to just sit and do whatever project I want. Then early night, of course.

Slimchance · 28/11/2013 07:48

Good morning everyone.

A very warm welcome back to Elliepac xxx. Sorry so many people struggling and/or ill atm. It's a difficult time of year.

BBL to catch up with thread.

*

Baby-step no 28, for Thurs 28th November is an important one about looking after ourselves.

We are in zone 5 this week: the sitting room (Nov 24 – 30). More info here.
Declutter in this zone for 15 mins every day!

Once Zone 5 is clear of clutter, you can go on to detailed cleaning.

The mission for Thursday is 5 min detailed dusting of nicknacks, picture frames, lamps etc in your sitting room.

Thursday is errand day.

The habit for November is still menu planning.

And today's flight plan provides a summary of the above.

Keep going everyone!!

***

BitchytheGreat · 28/11/2013 09:22

Always good to start the day by picking a fight on the internet Angry

Anyhow lots to do today. Need to alter a piece of clothing. It is going to be a complete and utter pig to do! so much coffee and swearing around here to be found.

Wonders off swearing about sensationalism vs the truth

struggling100 · 28/11/2013 10:03

Ellie - big hugs for you! I think you should stop beating yourself up, because frankly I look at what you are achieving, and it makes me feel inadequate! Being a mum and working in such a very demanding job takes a superwoman, and in my book you are a total heroine.

I am posting as a lurker who wants to tell you all how inspiring and amazing you are. Today, I finished a total clean of my whole house. It was in a RIGHT state, and it has taken me literally weeks, but I have been through every drawer, cupboard and box now. I still have loads of improvements to make, but the main thing is that everywhere is clean now for the first time in years. I have been checking into this thread for inspiration and tips on a regular basis, but haven't had the guts to post until now. I would not have been able to do this without seeing how much you are all achieving, and being spurred on to greater efforts by you, and by the Flylady system.

The clean-up, for me, is part of a wider life change. I am currently off work after having had a breakdown. I have decided this morning that I am not going back to my job, but that I am instead going to give myself a year to pursue a long-standing dream that I have of changing career, which means returning to study. It feels terrifying, but also the most exciting decision. Cleaning my house has been hugely therapeutic for me, allowing me to work through a lot of emotional issues and to feel brave enough to take the plunge. (I am a very risk-averse person, so this is a big step for me). The next month for me is about maintaining the improvements I'm making to my environment, and starting to look after my body in the same way that I look after my house.

Thank you all so, so much!

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 28/11/2013 10:33

Hi Struggling - welcome to the thread. That's amazing, well done to you! I've been on the thread for 4 years and I've still never achieved a totally clean house! Agree with you wholeheartedly that it is about far more than the state of the house, but inextricably linked to mental health and wellbeing, hope you'll stick around with us now you've taken the plunge.

Right, must get on with some jobs!

, sorry run out of milk.

Slimchance · 28/11/2013 10:35

Sillybillybob brilliant to hear that you have allocated yourself Thurs evenings!! Much deserved!! Hope council sorts out bin issue pronto.

(V. sorry if you and/or anyone else came on here early looking for today's steps and they weren't here btw - always mean to post steps night before - but not getting back on here at night atm!)

Dizzy Toffee Rowing and Angry hope the gnashers are not causing you all too much discomfort! [Proffers pain killers, oil of cloves etc]

Just and Alice and anyone else under the weather Flowers

And to Elliepac Blue and everyone else who is feeling stressed and overwhelmed Wine for later

Dizzy well done for undergoing dentist's waiting room ordeal - I find it very nerve-wracking too.

Very admiring of people on here (such as you and Feetheart) who can participate in a sporting activity with their dc.

Sympathies Blue It never rains but it pours! Hope today is less stressful for you than yesterday and that meeting goes OK.

Hope you got some shut eye Bitchy [glugs special brew gratefully]

Good luck with the job applications Goth!

Do take it steady Angrybuddha! Swan is right - the shakes sound awful - are you on antibiotics? (If not, should you be?)

Swan thanks, I think you've hit the nail on the head about the sense of time running out! It's a consequence of having a child late in life I guess (and thank heavens we could!) that our plans will change radically. I have sympathy for your sister's (and bil's) situation. Obviously, priorities lie in order of (a) work (b) schooling, but I sometimes think if the SAHparent (or the one who earns less) feels powerless/demoralised/unfulfilled then the whole 'demeanour' of the family (can't think of correct word!) goes down the pan - I see it a lot here - and sometimes what-appears-to-be "selfishness" (again it's not selfishness really - that's not the the right word) can be unselfish if any of that makes any sense at all! Now I've managed to confuse myselfConfused Grin.

Btw, I know hwk is a real trial atm but your dc always seem to be learning about such interesting topics! And writing ballads! Fabulous!

Tangential aside > I must be getting old because I am really enjoying watching Tudor Monastery atm!!

Poor you Toffee only having a day between mega-dental traumas!

Elliepac Hope you are OK x So sorry everything is such tough going right now and absolutely no need to apologise fhs! I take my hat off to any parent who works full time but from the experience of having two siblings (well one has just retired in fact) in education, I think it is a particularly draining profession. Hope you can get the support you need and find a way through the crapola Flowers.

Feetheart as I mentioned up-thread, I think it is so great you can go running with your ds!! (I try and go horse-riding with dd every once in a while, but she is a bit embarrassed by the ladder and winch Grin!!)

Oh no Just a fearsome stomach bug is the very last thing you need right now (well it's never a good time, but I hope you haven't over-done things helping your neighbours). Here's to a very speedy recovery! (That mould cannot be doing your grungy chest any good at all.) Take it steady Flowers x

Rowingboat ha! Grin I wish I had just a tad of obsessiveness about my cleaning!! (pauses while stack of papers falls on my head too Grin) Arf at Eeyore dentist ... I think it must be quite depressing spending the majority of your time staring at people's molars. Hope you are not too sore today!

Btw, hotspots (baby-step 6 here) are just 2 mins I think!! (Sorry not to get back to you about this last night.)

Alice Hope you are now all back up to full strength in your household. And yes, it does make total sense, the agitation comes sporadically I find: long periods of feeling fine and then the odd 'oh dear, why are we here, what are we doing, are we doing the right thing'?? I'm the same as you in that I probably feel more at home here than in the UK now (and of course UK not remotely the same now as when I left it anyway!). And you're right that it's the people that one misses the most in whatever country! (One problem about living here is that you make good friends and then they move on after three or four years.) However, I must confess to a hankering for British countryside and housing. And sense of humour. And inclusivity. Not homesick at all me, oh no Grin!! [Btw, have I remembered correctly that you are from the States? If so, "Happy Thanksgiving"!!! Apologies if I have this totally wrong!]

Big, encouraging wing flaps to eveyrone else I have missed!

Hope everyone has as good a day as possible!

BitchytheGreat · 28/11/2013 10:38

I have milk whoknows

Struggling, it is lovely to see you and today i am finding your post motivational. although like whoknows i have not suceeded with a tidy house Enough messing about on the internet. Time to kick the ass and get this alteration done so I can get into my bedroom without breaking my neck. no joke

BitchytheGreat · 28/11/2013 10:38

Oh poo bold fail. sorry Blush

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