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Fledglings Remember to FLY through November...

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BlueEyeshadow · 30/10/2012 22:25

If your house is a mess and you are strugging with C.H.A.O.S. (can't have anyone over syndrome) and S.T.U.F.F. (something that undermines family fun) then this is the thread where we (loosely) follow the step-by-step Flylady housekeeping system (in our own, unique, relaxed style) with lots of chat, support and wine along the way.

This little-and-often system is designed so that you can follow a series of steps and routines each day (which gradually become second nature) in weekly designated zones of the house; defining and minimising housework - which in theory should leave you with more time to do other more interesting things instead! At the same time it is intended to reduce that panicky "rabbit in headlights" feeling when you are overwhelmed and everything needs doing all at once. No problem if you miss a day or two; just jump right back in and it will all come around next month again anyway!

We advise not signing up to receive the Flylady e-mails as you will be inundated! All the information you need will be linked here on a daily basis.

From the first of the month, we will be following Flylady's steps and routines using a three-pronged approach (dependent on the stage everyone is at):

  • start or repeat baby steps
  • repeat baby steps + do 15 mins a day decluttering in the current zone
  • reinforce babysteps and do daily missions if you have finished decluttering.

[And if you are really enthusiastic and have finished decluttering - you can go on to detailed deep cleaning in each zone.]

More info here on getting started and Flying lessons. Here's the launch pad for more experienced fledglings. Don't be put off by the barf-tastic language of the site - the underlying system is sound (and you may discover a few of our subversions of the vocabularly along the way).

Many thanks to SC for leading the thread through October (and for such a good OP, which I've blatantly cut and pasted) - Thanks - and I'll post the first babysteps and mission tomorrow evening.

All welcome!!

OP posts:
GossipWitch · 18/11/2012 10:07

bitchy I occasionally have this issue also, during meltdowns when ds1 cant get his own way usually or when he's had a tough day from school, I usually spent the time with him while he's like this, because of his impulsiveness and when he's calmed enough for me to talk to him I remind him about how many people really do love him, and then we try and see what we can do to make things better for him, and if it's a reason where I have grounded something from him and he wants it back then I tell him he has to do something for me to earn it back.

Its so hard when they say things like this, and it shakes you to the core, I haven't took it any further personally because I'm sure my ds1 is only saying it through shear frustration. the rest of the time he is his normal happy mad self :) hth

castlelough · 18/11/2012 16:21

Well, I've allowed myself a week of distraction and googling lovely things to do with pregnancy etc etc, but must be stern with myself and get back to flying. Now there is even more reason to nail my routines and to declutter the junk I've been storing (and possibly relinquish some of my skinnier clothes I have been holding on to, in the hope of fitting into them again - will deserve new wardrobe if I manage to slim down to a size 8-10 in approx 8.5 months time! Smile

Took me ages to catch up with the thread and am now trying to remember everything going on with everyone :

Nicknacks I hope things can be sorted out. I think I'd feel very hurt if my dh was treating me that way.
Bitchy Oh god, things sound very tough with you and ds. I hope you are alright.
Lauren I clicked on your link. Am imagining you galloping across the moors! Sounds heavenly!
Swan you have been very good to your brother and dsil. I'm sure they appreciate it.
SC hope the decluttered room for being creative is working out! Sounds intriguing - tell us more! !
Gossip and Madwoman best of luck with the renovations/decorating. :)
Wingflaps to everyone else and thanks for the good wishes! Fingers crossed, am only 6w, 2d now, so a long way to go until 12 weeks!
I wonder how Issima is getting on? She was due her baby this month...

To Do:

nap (!!!)
visit dmil
dinner & clean up
school work
piano practice (have really let this slide Sad)
ironing and laundry sorting
evening routine
early to bed

BitchyDragons · 18/11/2012 21:15

ds has been at his dad's this weekend. It has helped both of us. we are both calmer. His dad is also being supportive over the situation which is helpful. He has made a few suggestions about alternative lines for information and support through his family which I am hoping might be useful. Sometimes a break makes a huge difference. not sure what tomo will bring but one day at a time. Thank you all for that advice and support. You are lovely ladies and so quick to go off topic to help where ever you can. Makes the thread special. It is appreciated.

madwomanintheattic · 18/11/2012 22:06

I have been ironing. but y'all know how I feel about that, so the least said the better...

I've reread the eleven commandments. I will go to bed on time.

Dd1 is making the Christmas cake as I type... I suspect there will be plenty for me to do in the kitchen later!! She has extra ballet in an hour for a Christmas display at a local festival, so I know she 'won't have time' to tidy up... Grin

And on toffee's 'fair distribution of labour' theme, dh vacuumed and ds1 and dd2 are brushing the dogs. Dh is also going to cook Sunday roast. Grin

Had a really productive day on Friday, with loads of outstanding admin put to bed. Lots more to do tomorrow, but am getting there! Yesterday I had to go into the city to take dd1 to a first aid course, and caught the local art market which was a lovely way to spend the day. Too skint to spend any money, lol, but I got to try lots of yummy artisan baking, balsamic reductions etc. mm mm.

BlueEyeshadow · 18/11/2012 22:30

Evening all. Sorry to post and run yesterday, and for missing the links, although nobody seems to have noticed... Wink

Glad you sound a bit calmer Bitchy - must be such a hard situation. No words but plenty of hugs.

Waves to trazzle, madwoman and castle, and anyone else around.

I've been crocheting like mad this evening trying to make a replacement scarf for the one DS1 lost at school. Not going to finish it tonight though, so need to do the links and then follow madwoman's advice and get to bed!

**
Babystep 19 - more reading. Hmm

We're moving into the master bedroom this week and the first mission is to get rid of anything that doesn't belong there.
**

OP posts:
madwomanintheattic · 18/11/2012 22:37

I never know what day it is, blue. Grin I read the day 18 baby step, but it just seemed to be a recap...

Oh, I remember crappy day 19 reading. Especially designed to make you feel really crap about the state of your house.

Er, as you were. I'm off to plump up my matching bedding and admire my bath lotion... Grin

madwomanintheattic · 18/11/2012 22:39

I do like master bedroom week though. Grin

swanthingafteranother · 18/11/2012 22:54

Have been on verge of floods of tears throughout today (mostly eve) but lunch for family members went really well.
Feeling v bad after Family therapist session on Friday and something ds1 said, but I will have to get over it!
Played lots with little niece today as well, and lovely to see DSis over from Ireland - her son is same age as my twins (10) so a long and muddy game of football ensued.
done
lots of boot/shoe cleaning
pasta supper
elaborate lunch
washing
exercise
usual calming down of ds2

sad to miss church Sadbut I suppose family had to come first

Bitchy I am beginning to see how situation with ds2 has me on a bit of knife edge emotionally even when I think I am dealing with life calmly, smallest thing throws me.

swanthingafteranother · 18/11/2012 23:01

Madwoman dd hates raisins, but I wonder what Xmas enterprise I can coax her into...Yule wreaths, scented candles, homemade soap perhaps...good idea to get them to make something important for xmas.
on a more positive note Dh got kids to do
hoovering
path sweeping
and errands
bed making

house is still in need of much improvement though and No Admin done for ages. I hid the calendar in a drawer as there was nothing written on it, and it was a bit embarassing. Hung up a cross instead Shock which a new departure in this house, but it is helping!!!!

madwomanintheattic · 18/11/2012 23:10

I quite like a visible 'touchstone' or whatever, as a reminder of calm and peace. (Not that I'm suggesting that's why the cross is working/ what it stands for in your pad, but ykwim)

My lovely friend is this very afternoon putting up a stencil of the serenity poem in her living space. Grin

And I totally get that a calendar has the exact opposite effect. Smile

I think we should all choose a 'something' as a wee 'stop and smell the coffee' reminder. Grin

BitchyDragons · 18/11/2012 23:46

I am painting ds a figure on his wall whilst he is away over christmas. I give you one guess what the figure will be doing Madwoman Grin

pst do you have a random collection of pucks in your house too?

madwomanintheattic · 19/11/2012 00:39

Ha ha.
Yes.
We appear to have lost the one with his shirt number and name on though, which was presented to him when we moved. Eeeek. Doubtless it will turn up under his bookshelf or something...

madwomanintheattic · 19/11/2012 00:39
madwomanintheattic · 19/11/2012 00:39

How they still have teeth is beyond me...

MrsHoarder · 19/11/2012 08:08

After we all had the sickness bug, managed to get nearly on top if the laundry and finally make the Christmas pudding over the weekend. To-dos for today:

s&s bathroom
Reboot laundry
Clear bedroom (where should I put the stock of blankets?)
Meal plan
Buy food
Ignore silly motivational reading
Actually spend 2 mins making control journal
Shine the sink

laurenamium · 19/11/2012 08:19

Morning all! Ill be back later with a catch up, just list dumping for now! To do:

Home bleugh
DD laundry
Walk dogs
Work
School run
Go buy dog food
Fill out form buy stamps and post
Routines
Today's mission
Paperwork later

BBL!

Jamillalliamilli · 19/11/2012 10:04

I let go of all of it again over the weekend. Shock Things have become impossibly stuck at the moment with no end in sight to the ?sludgefest? and several other trying things, and feeling overwhelmed ill, and exhausted,(everyone here is ill and needs looking after) but there isn't enough time and not doing things and trying to give myself a break hasn't fixed it, it?s made it worse, so back to trying to pick up the reins and plod on.

Apologies for limited personal's but will never get going if I don?t.

Swan I hope you?re feeling better, those we care about the most have the greatest ability to accidently wound us.

Bitchy I?ve pm?d you. I seem to put my foot in it with everything I say at the moment, so if I have again, please excuse me.

Nicknacks I'm not the best person to talk about respect and men, because while I like men well enough, I'm so sick of the ?I value nothing that doesn't carry status? attitude, and I'm tired of men who say if they can?t cope they?ll leave, (who knew there was a choice as a parent? Shock) but as a LP 100% of everything?s down to me, so if I can?t do all of it, then it doesn't get done, but not sure if it is worse or better than expecting equality from someone with no concept of what that is. (I?m really not the right person, am I? Grin )

Having proved I shouldn't have an opinion: I think the problem isn't going to be helped by ?my wages go on x, his wages go on y,? situation. It means you?re sort of ?billing? each other, rather than running as one unit. Changing it could be quite hard, but being able to set out what exactly you are both doing and what it costs, and what it saves, might change attitudes and help you both acknowledge some things? Doing a business expenses plan might be revealing.

If you don?t already then I'd do a serious analysis of your business costs, and what?s subsidising what, (include the invisible stuff like electricity, gas, water, and what decrease there?d be if you and the children weren't in the home most of the day) so you can lay out unemotionally and fairly what?s really happening, and definitely employ yourself a cleaner as a tax deductible business expense. (If he has any problem with that he could save the family some money by taking over their work!)

With how to use a cleaner, think about what are you finding hardest and most time consuming? Those are the tasks you really want her (or him!) to do. Time yourself doing them at a reasonable average speed, it will tell you if your list is reasonable/how many hours help you need. Look at what would you need to do or change so someone could walk in and do those things, without having to dig out or disrupt to get at them.

Still to do:
Ironing
Washing
Email
Get head round new SEN exam rules pink book.
Flask of coffee
Photographing stuff
Take to unit
Prep psychology
Shopping
Do psychology and English
Dinner
Get more sleep!

Engelsemama · 19/11/2012 12:28

Morning all, have been away at a wedding this weekend. MNing putting the house to rights while DS is asleep and DH is out doing the food shopping (didn't get back till 11 last night so he has day off).

haven't had time to do more than scan the thread but yes sc we get Sinterklaas over here - didn't realise the arrival was weekend just gone! Am guessing that now I have DC I will be forced to join in

Anyone talking about Christmas - I am VERY disprganised this year, have no presents or even ideas so will stick my fingers in my ears and ignore you all "La la la la la!"

Mt Washmore here too (great phrase trazzle - will be stealing). Have managed to unpack this morning (only need to put travel cot back in loft), 1st load of washing in td, 2nd load in wm, cleaned suede boots (dirty from standing on muddy lawn at behest of irritating wedding photographer), emptied bins, hoovered upstairs, called NATE to check I'm nto still a member after getting invoice for 96 pounds - convinced have not been a member for a year Shock.

Planning on not doing much the rest of the day but guess I should make a list...

To do
Plan lessons for tomorrow Blush
This may involved reading the stacks of Sunday papers I brought back from the UK yesterday (I'm doing British newspapers with my 5th years at the moment so this DOES count as work Blush )
Iron name tags onto DS's stuff for nursery tomorrow
Book ferry for christmas
order another car seat
type up handwritten stuff I did for Nanowrimo in the car on Friday and catch up (am 5,000 words behind Shock )
change bed
hoover upstairs

Think that will do for "not doing much today"

happy FLYing everyone Smile

swanthingafteranother · 19/11/2012 12:45

today I have
*Walked neighbour's dog
cleaner has changed some sheets and washed floors downstairs
I have put out recycling
washed another pair of wrecked muddy trainers
cleared decks for cleaner Blush
bought milk
bought juice
had annoying phone call [Avoid Avoid]

just actually you've cheered me up, as ds himself didn't say anything upsetting, it was just he said something I didn't want family therapist to hear as it was taken out of context [although of course there is no such thing as out of context with therapy ConfusedHmm and now I'm worrying what she will think and whether she will report me to social services Hmm Probably not Grin Hope today gets a little better for you.

GossipWitch · 19/11/2012 13:31

ahhhh I need to do some flying really haven't done much this last few weeks just been doing the superficial bits :)

BitchyDragons · 19/11/2012 14:57

ta da
gut ds' room and discover room under the stuff
Laundry - yes more laundry
room rescue lounge
ironing
folding
Half clear out my card
Cancel missing bank card
various random bits that distract me from the problem that is my room

Just - any advice is helpful. I suspect you have a great deal of experience to draw from.

Today a decision was made. Ex is taking over pushing for getting it sorted. I don't want the grief. So he is writing the letters and dealing with paperwork stuff and I am dealing with ds. So it is not just me doing everything. Not sure how it will work long run but in short term it makes it feel less stressful. So today i am dealing with the choas of the house.

swanthingafteranother · 19/11/2012 15:59

Bitchy that is wonderful Shock.

done
Ocado order for first time in a year! [attempts not to get carried away]
it really is more expensive than Morrison's though Wink however, I availed myself of 20 percent discount for Nov window, hoping it is not all smoke and mirrors....

ds2 is home, dd is at a friend

nothing else done Sad

madwomanintheattic · 19/11/2012 17:38

Engels, how goes nano? I am woefully behind and have lost the thread. Must dig it out later. I am planning on spending many hours on it for the next three days in an effort to catch up. Feeling productive! A few days off has given me lots of ideas!

laurenamium · 19/11/2012 18:06

Hi all, just back from the walk in A and E centre near me, DD shoved sweet corn up her nose so high that I couldn't get it out so we let the professionals do it Hmm

I'm slowly working through today's list, haven't started home bleugh yet so it's going to be a late one!

BB tomorrow with today's ta da and tomorrow's to do! I am keeping up with the thread but there's nothing I can add to all of the excellent advice that's been given Blush

Engelsemama · 19/11/2012 18:34

Worked like crazy last week to catch up madwoman and then fell behind again this weekend when we went away. Now 5,000 behind (on about 25,000). Losing a bit of momentum. Wishing I didn't have to work for the next three days Sad

I should take advantage of the fact that DH has just gone to bed with a temperature and get cracking - but I actually just want to watch a cheesy rom-com instead Blush