Welcome to the ongoing Fledgling Flyers thread for September, thanks to Bitchy who kept us posted through August.
Right, most of you should know how this works. It's a three pronged attack.
Phase one: The babysteps master these and you will be working like clockwork.
Phase two: Adding in Decluttering this will help you keep on top of the amount of stuff contributing to CHAOS.
Phase three: Missions Targeted activities to keep the chaos at bay and starting the deep cleaning.
The golden duster of Flying is stage 4: deep cleaning. This is for most me anyway, somewhat unrealistic and in theory you don't need to worry about it until you have finished decluttering that's never then. Just do it if you want to.
Now for those of you who are completely lost, lets rewind a bit.
CHAOS: Can't have anyone over syndrome. We've all been there
The fly lady approach works by breaking the house down into tiny activities which you do repeatedly until they become habit and don't feel like chores any more. The house is split into zones, each zone is tackled for a week before moving on and comes round again at the start of the next month.
There are lots of experienced Fledglings on here, hence lots of advice and support and chat about anything except housework some days. the main thing is that you can post any time you like even if you haven't lifted a finger around the house that day because with Flylady you just pick up again the next day and off you go again.
We advise against signing up for Flylady emails as they can lead to a great deal of clutter in the Inbox, each days steps will be posted on this thread to save you having to find them yourself.
In the meantime here is a link to the Flylady website for anyone who would like a browse.
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It's September so the Fledgings Fly, as we wave our clutter bye bye
WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 30/08/2012 21:22
Just - I'm so sorry to hear that you have been flooded again 
after all you've been through. We are here for you if you want us .
Kickboxer - sorry you have had to bow out. Don't forget to lurk though .
WhoKnows - sorry you are bored. How are you feeling? Are you being looked after?
And where is the October thread linkie?
Um, afternoon everyone. Todays' babystep is here.
I thought I'd be all helpful and link to the christmas plan, but I can't find it for some reason. There is cruising through the holidays, which has links to a christmas control journal and other things, but I'm sure I remember specific Christmas babysteps last year. Might have been a dream i had once....
We'll all be over on the new thread tomorrow, but in the meantime enjoy renewing your spirits 
Oops, cross post with just about everyone 
Bit behind today as the washing machine has flooded the kitchen (again!). It's all gone underneath the new(ish) floor, which is knackered now and to buy a ew washer dryer that is likely to be OK is going to cost ££££ that we really don't have at the moment. Plus the model I want will take 2-4 weeks to deliver. We do 17 loads per week and there is no laundrette for over 10 miles. Only a teeny tiny problem in the grand scheme of things, butI could honestly cry
just you poor thing. I can't imagine how heartbreaking it must be to be flooded yet again Sending you a big hug (and even bigger bottle of wine).
pmpy poor you too Is there anyone (sympathetic friends/family) who can help you out until you get a new one?
Christmas flylady? Am in heaven. First year having Christmas at home (in NL) with DS and am determined that it will be awesome. DH has been told that he WILL be pulling crackers and eating a delicious roast dinner with all the yummy stuff that goes with it. (Dutch people are weird....Christmas is just another bank holiday and even though they do spend it with family there's no traditional Christmas dinner 
Time to educate them ).
Have been a busy bee today...
Ta da
Peach and raspberry slice made and in oven
hoovered upstairs
3 loads of washing finally away (have been sitting in hall for a WEEK!)
One load of washing on
Changed beds
emptied all bins upstairs
washing-up done
ordered DS a birthday T-shirt
Investigated birthday cakes - I need to get organised!
To do
Book ferries
Book hotel for post Christmas family break in UK
bag up teen fiction books to take to school
order something for Sister's birthday (am thinking something from Send a thought)
write a shopping list for tomorrow's trip to town
empty paper recycling basket
eat peach and raspberry slice (though not all of it)
go for a run
wrap up DS's birthday present (winter coat)
send e-vites for DS's birthday
Declutter lounge table (hotspot!)
Pay credit card
so many other things should be on that list!
See you all on the November thread
Thank you all for the sympathy and hugs. I ended up wet, filthy, low, and exhausted last night, and got back to temp accom, internet and hot water, read people?s kind words, and felt a lot less low. 
Still to do
Emails re further maths site I?m so struggling costs, and still missing book.
Check pretend to fully understand psychology and statistics assignment--
New h/e file - backdated to Thurs.
Find Christmas file (actually own one of these thanks to Lakeland?s summer sale!)
Washing, drying
Ironing
Try digging up some spuds from unflooded bit of patch.
Repair d/s shoes
Patch jeans.
Find portable speakers for mon.
Whoknows you?re very kind, but just as well you couldn?t see or hear me on Thursday. It was beyond self-pitying whinging! I?ve since been to disabled swim (hot shower!) and been quietly reminded about quality of life by a group of severely disabled and very cuddly children.
Thanks for well timed Christmas control journal. very much need to think about Christmas while deciding what to do about all this. (They?re talking about structural surveys and digging below floors in Nov!)
Hope you can cope with enforced idleness. (a lot of mending tends to get done when I?m laid up)
Blue, it?s all relative, I?ve just seen what?s happened to those poor people in Andalusia and my woes feels very trivial, but it doesn't stop anyone?s problems, at any level, existing.
Madwoman I had to laugh at Trazzletoes ?Hang on a cotton-picking minute... You had glass in your foot for MORE THAN 3 weeks?! Talk about anti-procrastination day? Glad for you it?s out, but think it may go down in communal flying memory for anti-procrastination day, along with Toffee?s knob polishing. 
I don?t have (can?t get) insurance, so it?s down to what the various builders do and don?t have and proving liability. At the moment the only agreement?s they will cover some storage costs of damaged stuff while decisions are made as my lungs aren?t coping with mouldy damp stuff and if they?re liable they sensibly agree that preventing a ?health damaged? claim is in all our interests.
Can I be nosey and ask Bitchy and yourself, are you talking about wheels or blades please?
Bitchy hoping you can breathe better.
PMPY I?m actually in London but behind a reservoir and affected by an underground river. It?s ridiculous because we?re on a hill, but building works has diverted the flow, and the flood plains been built on diverting any water from there too. Only three houses are affected but we have our own disaster zone while everyone else carry?s on unaffected wondering what all the fuss is about (national grid closed the road and you?d think we personally demanded it!)
I?m so sorry about your floor and washer dryer, mine are dead from the first mini flood (just kitchen and lean to then) ages back, but I do have access to a launderette. Sympathies. 17 loads a week? Yikes!
Engels I think the de cluttering is the most time consuming part. Thanks for the hug, but especially the idea of wine! Are you missing a month or just very keen to get to Christmas? (?see you on November thread??)
Ellie Brilliant news about your CM. The more you?ve lost, the more precious what you have, is.
Swan Yes it?s DS as the main one, (there?s some DGD, and DGS, h/e but only part time from me) erm, he doesn?t see it as reliable, because he can?t imagine an unreliable mum. Something about ASD meets over compensating for one?s own childhood. Chuckling at your ?abominable monk? description. Was amazed at how angelic d/s looked wearing a surplus, just before he turned with his great long arm out, and took out his end of the row of them.
Good luck with DH making the brave transition to s/e. Recognising it brings it?s own issues should make it a lot easier.
MrsOnatop Am so impressed with your paperwork sorting.
Dizzy ( I don?t have an o/h any more but know the battle.) The way I look at it is you?re probably trying to change 25/35 plus years of conditioning so it?s going to take calm consistent ?retraining? to get anywhere. Coming at it from a different angle, I think many men don?t make the links between cause and effect well, and feel defensive when it?s spotlighted, along with defining themselves through their work and feeling very torn about responsibility. I?d refuse to be confrontational and just keep pointing out simple solutions that don?t ?cost?. I?d definitely gift him the stool just to negate the ?official? reason for not being able to use it.
Toffee thanks for the coffee and the Christmas countdown, it?s going to really help me not go putting the wrong things ?out of harm?s way? right now, and then create more chaos tearing everything apart in Nov. Hope you're making progress with recovering.
makingchanges Oh yes, some of us can certainly chat! Enjoy DD?s social life while it?s still in the easy party stages, dreaded boyfriends arrive fast enough.
Waves apologetically to everyone I've missed.
Adds make everyone let me watch Downton Abbey as spirit renewing! excuse
Just. Madwoman and I are talking blades.
I have retaped 3 lots of sticks. Which is exciting as we only have 2 sticks. Ds had decided extra training was needed and disappeared off into the garden. It has helped his mood. He has fresh hot out of the oven bread for tea and he is curled up in bed reading.
Bitchy thought it might be. Excellent! (I know I'll probably never get to use them again, but have kept my hockeys in eternal hope. )
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Wow Bitchy thanks, that looks fascinating! I did see Ade Adeptin trialling something less sporty but quite similar years ago, (just skating, not playing) but requests to be even allowed on the ice if I could get hold of one at our local rink (in a closed session) let alone them actually acquiring one, fell on deaf ears. They say insurance issue and I could only do it without other skaters present and that wouldn't be affordable, yet they insist I must pay as a spectator when d/s skates, because I am 'a potential ice user' as should I wish to pay extra, I'm allowed to be wheeled round the ice in my wheelchair, which they consider to be 'disabled skating'. (sorry but, oh Whoopee do!)
Wonders, not for the first time, how hard it would be to build one, it would be a lot harder to say no if I actually had one.
Dizzy, the best of luck!
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