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Be honest, I want everyone's views......what do you think of home ed???

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3Ddonut · 16/02/2008 15:19

I suspect this may get nasty, but please try to keep it nice ladies (and gents) I really like the idea of home ed, I would dearly love to home ed my dc but there are some problems, firstly I work 3 nights a week and my dh works 2 full days,my eldest dd is 5 and she really loves school, but some of things that she says about school unsettle me, I always said that it is their choice if they want to go to school or not, which is why she is there and my ds is in nursery but I wish she'd want to stay home and the longer that she's there, the more I feel that we're wasting time...

I've read a lot of the other threads and see that you can do some home-ed stuff alongside school but I don't think that it's enough for me, I want them to remain interested and not be moved on from one thing too quickly or forced to spend time on things they dislike.

We're already a close family because of mine and dh's shifts there is nearly always someone in the house and we get to spend a lot of time with the kids. I suppose I'd just like it to be more of the same.

My main concerns are that the dc would resent us for it in the future (although I would not take a happy child out of school) I also worry about the effect of home ed-ing the children would have on future employers and university places, I do worry about the socialisation aspect although the kids are in a few groups and are very social, they interact well with adults as well as other children, I'm concerned about how much time I'd have to work with them with working full time myself (no opportunity to cut hours)

I'm going round in circles at the min, I think my ds would be more open to the idea and I'm considering not sending dd2 to nursery at all.

The other biggie is that the school they attend is out of area and it's a really good one, they wouldn't get back in there if we deregistered, I've considered flexi-schooling but I feel that would bring more problems than solutions....

OK, Open fire!!!

OP posts:
Saturn74 · 23/02/2008 22:57

"oh i see is this thread one of those sycophantic we are all so right and any divergent view is wrong?"

No, it's one of those threads where people who actually do have some experience of HE attempt to politely advise those who don't.

And where they attempt (yet again) to rectify any of those (oh so tedious) false myths and incorrect assumptions about HE.

scottishmummy · 23/02/2008 22:59

haha! bash a differing view so only the HE mantra and devotees can be heard - good discussion. robust ability to respond to divergent opinion. and so able to openly explain HE view without being derisory to poster - illuminating

maybe take a deep breath and in a non-emotive way do tell me all about HE.As i have clearly stated i have no experience of it. i hate to rock your HE world but i suspect my views are not unilateral

so without being personal, please elaborate

Saturn74 · 23/02/2008 23:00

Or perhaps you'd care to browse through some of the other 344 threads in the HE topic?

Bubble99 · 23/02/2008 23:00

Why so aggressive, SM?

TheodoresMummy · 23/02/2008 23:02

Read the thread if you are actually interested.

I'm not going to type several hundred posts out again.

Oh and idon't HE btw, but think you are ridiculously out of order to post what you have. No back up to your arguments/opinions, yet almost venomous.

Bubble99 · 23/02/2008 23:02

I just don't undertand how you can have such strong views on a subject that you've said you have no experience of..

scottishmummy · 23/02/2008 23:05

But you berate me for not knowing about HE? Presumably you do.so instead of referring me to other like minded posts why dont you elaborte. dont get personal, stick to the non emotive question

please tell me about HE

Efficacy
Statistics
Rates of Placement in HE/Uni
GCSE passes obtained
benefits of HE as opposed to school
Audits and research about HE

Bubble99 · 23/02/2008 23:05

SM. Are you there?

Where do your views/opinions come from? I'm genuinely interested.

Bubble99 · 23/02/2008 23:08

Here's a link for you, SM

seeker · 23/02/2008 23:10

I am in, I think, in a unique position on this thread as an he'd adult. As usual when I discuss with HE parents, it was suggested that any negatives I took from the experience are the result of my personality, rather than my education! This could be true, but I do sometimes get a little irked by the fact that it seems impossible to question any element of he without being accused of bashing, or pedelling myth or misapprehension. I have done neither. HE can be wonderful - but there are downsides. School can be wonderful - but there are downsides.

TheodoresMummy · 23/02/2008 23:13

Why would I have statistics ? I don't HE. My DS is 4.

We need JNS or Juule.

But they have gone to bed.

Anyway, you are very aggresive and arrogant in your tone, so I will just say again read the 600 posts already typed. I can't be bothered any more. It's late and we have already had a debate/discussion.

terramum · 23/02/2008 23:14

Efficacy - All children must have an efficient full-time education suitable (a) to his age, ability and aptitude, and (b) to any special educational needs he may have? (Education act 1996)....not quite sure how you can generalise or see exactly how all HE parents achieve this as they are individuals & HE in different ways and there is no need for a child to have their education monitored. But there have been some studies that show HE children do better than their peers. I'm sure others can provide links...

Statistics - of what exactly? HE numbers are impossible to know. Estimates I have seen vary from around 30,000 to 150,000.

Rates of Placement in HE/Uni - Have no idea tbh - the universtities themselves would probably be the best people to ask.

GCSE passes obtained - again - probably best to ask the awarding bodies although I'm not sure they will distinguish HE students from others.

benefits of HE as opposed to school - covered numerous times on this and loads of other threads in the HE section - too tired to type them all again!

Audits and research about HE....I think there are references to he studies & research on the EO site...

terramum · 23/02/2008 23:15

Apologies for the terrible typing

Bubble99 · 23/02/2008 23:16

seeker. I'm not even HE (will be taking the plunge after Easter,) but I was shocked by the venom in SM's first post....

"...at home with mummy"

If a HE parent posted something as misinformed and aggressive about teachers they would (rightly) be challenged for it.

terramum · 23/02/2008 23:17

HE research:
www.education-otherwise.org/Publications%20Files/Leaflets/Research.htm

scottishmummy · 23/02/2008 23:18

Bubble - thanks for links.Is this a peer reviewed site, for other HE? If so how is impartiality ensured?

as i said i would be interested to know

please tell me about HE

Efficacy
Statistics
Rates of Placement in HE/Uni
GCSE passes obtained
benefits of HE as opposed to school
Audits and research about HE

Intrigued why what i have said appears to have touched a raw nerve. this can not be the first time one has encountered such queries/views i genuinely have no hidden agenda or prejudice (i stated i have no experience of home ed)

i think as seeker said there are advantages and disadvantages to both methods

scottishmummy · 23/02/2008 23:20

bubble it is quite wearing and erroneous that you ascribe words like venom to my posts. actually it is called a differing opinion. i have not been so churlish to you

refrain from the personal slights, stick to the plot - please

terramum · 23/02/2008 23:21

SM - I am wondering - how do you see a typical HEed child living day to day? What kinds of things do you think they do?

scottishmummy · 23/02/2008 23:22

well as the expert practitioners why dont you tell me!when i express an opinion i get berated for having no experience

terramum · 23/02/2008 23:25

If "you are disadvantaging your child for no particular valid reason.other than to indulge your own whim preference." isn't an insult to HEers then what is it?

Whilst I am not opposed to helping inform others who may not be aware of HE or some of its aspects/styles...I do find it a bit when people openly criticise others choice for doing so & then wonder why they get jumped on for saying so....

terramum · 23/02/2008 23:26

SM - I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from with your view of HE....

seeker · 23/02/2008 23:28

I disagrre fundamentally with scottishmummy's approach and am wondering what agenda she is following. However, I must point out that there has been an implicatio all the way through that those of us who send our children to school are damaging them. And that my own observations on my experience were dismissed as something to do with my personality!

Scottishmummy illjudged her post, in my opinion. But it would be good if HEers could try not to be blinded to the usual rules of debate by their passion for their subject.

Bubble99 · 23/02/2008 23:30

SM. It is very difficult to even determine the number of HE families in the UK as, if a child is not registered with a school for reception - they do not exist wrt LA statistics.

terramum has given some answers to your other questions.

If you're interested in HE it is definitely worth checking the HE threads - as there are established HE parents with children at uni/in employment who will be able to give more info about HE young adults.

Before I even considered HE I had a preconceived 'type' of a HE family in my head. Strangely, lentils figured in the image too.

The families DH and I have met to help us make this decision have not conformed to this stereotype at all. Most have left the school system as they are unhappy with class sizes and the 'one size fits all' nature of the National Curriculum. All seemed fairly 'normal' and not oppressive 'mummy' types.

scottishmummy · 23/02/2008 23:32

is this really the first time such views/queries have been expressed about HE?Well then as HE practitioners lets have a non personal, non emotive discourse. so far many posters are doing a splendid job in drawing attention to my alleged shortcomings and inadequate knowledge of he

and don't forget the OP asked for "Be honest, I want everyone's views......what do you think of home ed???

obviously there is interpretative differences between "be Honest"

terramum · 23/02/2008 23:36

No it's not the first time & I think that's why you are getting a lot of flack SM - this kind of thing comes up pretty much everytime HE is mentioned on a mainstream or non-HE based board or IRL for that matter.....HEers regularly get asked daft things like 'is it legal?'...gets on your wick after a while

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