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Home ed a place to really let rip and debate

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singingmum · 09/07/2007 12:21

OK so it seemed needed so I'll start.
I HE.It is best fro my dc's in my opinion and that of my dp.
Why? Well a number of reasons really.I'll be short as have tired fingers from posting on other HE threads where anyone who wishes can see the full story.
My dp,my brothers,my friend and myself all attended the same comp over diff years.It was crap.
I actually became bored of learning the same stuff over and over again.My dp and brothers were pigeon holed for having learning difficulties(ie dyslexia)and were taught very badly and left to rot.My friend could learn much but was often left to it and did not do as well as she could.
My son had mega probs caused by nursery and am not putting either of my dc's go through that as my ds is bright but may have aspergers and my dd has dyslexic tendencies.
So as everyone has been letting rip indiscrimenently(bad spelling sorry)I thought I'd put it all in one place.
Let rip ladies and gents

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singingmum · 09/07/2007 12:36

Anyone feel like debating?
You were all at it not long ago just thought this was a good way to not hijack other threads.

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sarah293 · 09/07/2007 13:08

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Mistymoo · 09/07/2007 13:12

Do you think you can provide all the social skills your child will need to deal with the outside world?

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singingmum · 09/07/2007 13:32

Misty Yes.Definitely.
My son has probs with socialisation as he has susspected aspergers so for him socialising is hard enough without the pressure put on dc's in schools to fit in.My son just can't fit in he has to work at it.My dd however is extremely sociable,confident and has excellent conversational skills.We get complimented on the way our dc's discuss issues rather than fighting over them like the other dc's in our area that do go to school most of whom are of the opinion that they are untouchable by anyone and can bully and pester to their hearts content while my dc's are well mannered and polite to everyone possible.
They meet people from all walks of life ,are extremely accepting and helpful.
They even are nice to people they don't like very much or who bully them.

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SueBaroo · 09/07/2007 14:09

Actually, as this is the thread for it - I would like someone to explain what they mean by social skills and socialization. It just seems to be a term that crops up in connection with HE and different people seem to mean very different things by it.

So, there you go, that's my initial contribution to those for whom this is a concern - define the terms used

VioletBaudelaire · 09/07/2007 14:14

School isn't necessarily a good place for learning about positive socialisation, ime.

Nor does it necessarily prepare you for life in the big wide world. Unless your chosen career consists of 25 minute slots of one subject at a time, whilst you are surrounded by people of the same age as you.

SueBaroo · 09/07/2007 14:19

Well, precisely. I know my BIL was really concerned about 'socialization' and his first example was "What about when they hear their first swear-word? Won't they be really shocked?"

I'm still baffled about why he thought being shocked at swearing was self-evidently a bad thing.

bozzy · 09/07/2007 14:27

Singingmum, sorry to change the subject slightly... it is just that our nursery manager has given me a paper on aspergers to see whether this is what we think my DS has. He is 4 in august, and although is very bright, knows his numbers, alphabet etc, finds it difficult to have conversation with anyone, including us. We think he is just developing speech late but it did give me a bit of a shock when she mentioned aspergers. DS is very well coordinated, has great vocab etc, but finds it difficult to communicate and to make friends (although he is still very close to those he used to know until we moved when he was 3). We have requested that he be deferred from school for a year to give him time to catch up. Any advice on recognising aspergers? If we are not allowed to hold him back a year, DH and I have decided to teach him from home as I don't think they can stop us...

sarah293 · 09/07/2007 14:34

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bozzy · 09/07/2007 14:42

Riven, how do I find out about HE? Also, how do I find out if my DS has Aspergers. Who diagnosed him? I know DS would lose any of the confidence he has only just gained in the past 6 months. TBH, there are 2 boys in his class who are loud and rebelious and I think this may have had a negative affect on him. They are nice kids, just a bit loud! The rest are girls and as they chat quite a lot, I think they aren't interested in talking to DS. Need to find him a compatible mate fast!!

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singingmum · 09/07/2007 14:42

bozy
I can only go by what I myself have found on the web aand what has been said by mums on here about aspergers.Tbh I haven't had him checked he just fits the profile so to speak.He has poor social skills when it comes to dc's his own age,he misunderstands facial expressions and certain sayings.He is fixated on certain subjects,he can't do simple things like if we ask him to show us a smile(for photo etc.)he shows his teeth and stretches his mouth so that it looks more like a grimace.He also has poor co-ordination although playing PS 2 has helped his hand eye cordination and he can now catch things better.
He's almost 13 and we have never before considered having him checked for it as we thought that we could help more as he is HE.However recently we have discovered that we will have to get him seenas he wishes to go to college/uni etc. and that he may have probs there if they don't see a diagnoses just our speculation.
If you do a search you will find loads of threads on MN about it.They are what made me realise that we need more than before to get him checked and have more info than me to help you.

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singingmum · 09/07/2007 14:45

Bozzy
Education otherwise have loads of info on their website can't do links address is www.education-otherwise.org.uk
They are really good.

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SueBaroo · 09/07/2007 14:46

lol, I love how the threads asking for help and advice are hijacked by folks wanting to debate HE, and the thread that is set up to debate HE turns into a help and advice thread

(Not at all a criticism, just mildly amusing )

VioletBaudelaire · 09/07/2007 14:47

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singingmum · 09/07/2007 14:48

LOL

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bozzy · 09/07/2007 14:51

thanks singingmum. The nursery teacher gave me some info but I am a little confused as DS is well coordinated, has a good sense of humour etc, just seems to lack social skills (although he is responding well to us now that we give him eye contact and insist that he answers simple questions). Our priority now is to ensure that he is deferred in school.. and if they won't agree we will keep him at home (although the nursery has said they are happy for him to continue there).

lionheart · 09/07/2007 15:01

Just goes to show we shouldn't decompartmentalise, SB.

bozzy · 09/07/2007 15:09

SORRY Guys...! I will bugger off now.. just that I saw the word aspergers and it is the first time I have heard of it...! Please carry on with the debate!!

bozzy · 09/07/2007 15:10

and do let rip

SueBaroo · 09/07/2007 15:15

lionheart indeed!

SueBaroo · 09/07/2007 15:16

Did you mean decompartmentalise or compartmentalise?

flamingtoaster · 09/07/2007 15:30

bozzy - you should also be able to find some useful HE information on your County Council website, including (often) a downloadable form. There are a lot of great American Home Education websites with loads of useful activities, etc. useful as a jumping off point. This is not a HE site but has links to some superb sites which I used when DD was Home Educated for a while:

www.ala.org/gwstemplate.cfm?section=greatwebsites&template=/cfapps/gws/default.cfm

terramum · 09/07/2007 17:02

"Do you think you can provide all the social skills your child will need to deal with the outside world?"

Yes - because he will be learning in the outside world!

NKF · 09/07/2007 17:05

I think it's difficult to debate because it always moves into the personal and stays there. "I did this and it worked" or "My son hated school and now he's happy". There's not much to debate really is there?

SueBaroo · 09/07/2007 17:07

NKF, that's true of any debate, surely?

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