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Pre schoolers Thread

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patito · 12/10/2011 18:35

I ve lost the thread HE for Pre schoolers. Are you lot still around?

Anyone new want to join in the what we do/share ideas thingy?

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YouHaveNoPowerOverMe · 13/10/2011 12:32

Oooo can I join please? Not exactly pre-school age at 13months & 2yrs 6months but getting some ideas on what to do with the 2yr old especially would be very helpful.

We've just moved to a new house miles away from our last one so trying to find HE groups at the moment.

MoonFaceMamaaaaargh · 13/10/2011 17:38

i will lurk with interest to steal ideas for when my dc's (20m and 1wk) are older. Grin

patito · 10/11/2011 19:55

Hi YOuHaveNoPowerOverMe and Moonface.

Sorry started this thread and then disappeared. Blush. Have been away (and busy the other days!).

A thread was started some time ago for HE preschoolers. I have 2 DC´s 1 yr and 3.5 yrs, so also just starting out on this.

We generally just shared what we´d done that day/week etc.

Ive been following a blog challenge - 30 days of hands on play (Thats us!). Each day a new play theme is suggested (by The Imagination Tree and Hands on:as we play) and then you write back what you´ve been up to. Todays was science, mixing food dye with vinegar and baking powder and watching it bubble right up and over the jar!! DS (3 yr old) loved it.

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JingleAllTheSoddingWay · 12/11/2011 23:41

Oh cool patito I was following the Imagination Tree for ages until we moved and had no Internet connection. Love that blog.

Ds1 has a fascination about animals at the moment so he's been learning all the names, the sounds they make etc. He's getting very good. He has speech delay so listening to him naming 20 animals after I've only told him what they are once is music to my ears.

Will have a look at 30 days to hands on play.

Ps: it's YouHaveNoPowerOverMe here. Just name changed! Grin

glastochick · 14/11/2011 15:11

just marking my place as DS (17mo) will hopefully be homeschooled. Still undecided as to what's going to be best for him but hopefully we'll be homeschooling.

Just difficult when the mum's I know are talking about registering for pre-school soon and which one their little DCs will be going to. No groups, that I've been able to find, in my area (Mid Essex) either.

stmumschool · 15/11/2011 15:42

Hi There, I'd like to join in this thread too. My dd is 3.3yrs. We don't attend nursery but go to several good mother/child groups, swim etc. It can be a bit hard when people even friends ask why she isn't at nursery, even harder I imagine if she doesn't go to school. I have found a Home School group but they only meet once a month and so this thread will be great!!

Gracie123 · 20/11/2011 18:52

Ooh! Can I join? We blog at www.homeschoolblogger.com/gracieschool but I very rarely update (lazy)

A thread would be much easier to keep up with steal ideas from Grin

Our recent science experiment was making 'rock candy' lollies. DS (3yo) loved the bit on frozen planet where the ice crystals grew, so we dissolved sugar in jars, added food colouring and flavourings, the suspended lolly sticks in them and put them in the boiler room.

One week later we have beautiful delicious, rot your teeth lollies and DS got to check on them each day to see them grow.

Just make sure you dip the Lilly sticks in water and sugar before you start to encourage crystallisation. Otherwise you end up with crystals growing all over the jar and not just on the stick! Grin

AngelDog · 23/11/2011 08:22

Also marking my place although my 22 m.o. DS is young yet.

If I ever get to the stage where I can manage to do more than just struggle through housework / do shopping with him, that is. Blush

HauntyMython · 24/11/2011 16:19

That was my thread :o have name changed lots since then.

I only have one preschooler now - DD is having a fab time in reception. Although she is tired and I do yearn for home ed :( it just isn't possible at all right now for several reasons.

DH is at home with our DS who is 2 - I work PT now. Focus with him ATM is getting him to make choices, as he has a slight speech delay and is going to a therapy group.

patito · 24/11/2011 21:01

Hi

Wondered what you´ve all been up to?

We did some numbers play the other day. Using foam numbers and wooden blocks, matching number of blocks to number symbol. here

I started DS (3.5 yrs) on letters yesterday using a Jolly phonics work book. I was so surprised at how quick he picked up holding his pencil correctly and writing the letter S. up till now we´ve just done free-style art so had no idea what to expect.

With DD (14 mth) have been block building and stealing big brothers toys!

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TimeWasting · 24/11/2011 21:27

I've been allowing DS to express himself creatively, making mess assemblages with various household objects, toys, clothes etc.
He loves arranging things and stopping myself from stopping him requires effort.

I really want to take him out of nursery, but he says he likes it now. I can see the negative impact it's having though.
It's tricky when he's come on so much in the past two months that I don't know what good things are down to the teachers and what he would have been doing anyway. Bah!

stmumschool · 24/11/2011 22:16

My dd jumped in the swimming pool all by herself today for the very first time. So proud I nearly burst. So glad she's not at nursery school.

patito · 29/11/2011 20:48

Timewasting just curious to what the negative impact your seeing is?

Im glad DS isn´t at nursery for many reasons but speaking with one of his play friends (who does go) from playground just confirmed it:

We were drawing and I broke one of his crayons, the little boy said I had to pay for it as I´d broken it, so we talked about it. He then went on to say that he broke a boys pencil in class and the teacher had told them that if they break someone else´s things they have to bring in a toy so he (the teacher) can break it. Shock Shock

What is that all about!
I said perhaps the teacher was joking and he said oh no he meant it! Obviously don´t think he does mean it, but the children do. And this is the place to inspire our children for the future. Sad

Not that I want to teacher bash, being one myself Blush albeit out of work at the moment.

stmumschool I love those moments.

Today we played a numbers game again. DS dressed up in his chefs outfit and we placed duplo bocks in the baking tray and sang "3 current buns" (Only in the case it was 12) and we role played baker and buyer (including some of his duplo characters). I wrote the number of buns his wipeboard as we counted down. He liked doing the actions and passing me the buns as we went along. After we´d done that we lined up the blocks in the tray according to colour.

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TimeWasting · 29/11/2011 21:12

There's aggression that I don't remember before, certainly how it manifests. The first couple weeks he pinched me a few times and spitting occasionally. Hitting.

He's been in trouble a lot, I've been told he's stubborn. He's had to sit out a few times for being naughty.

As soon as I ask him not to do something etc., he's so very quick to anger and tell me I'm not his friend anymore.

He has settled down a lot since the start of term and he tells me he loves it.
It's a good nursery and they mainly play, sing, craft etc.
His absolute best friend goes there too, or he may not have learned to put up with the negatives as I can see he has.

Also, he appears to have learnt how to say Grace before eating! Shock

Anyway, today he did number stamping in playdough, free-form assembly of baby sisters new playmat, discussion of the weather and lots and lots of make believe.

Gracie123 · 30/11/2011 15:07

We saw lots of negative behaviours after DS joined nursery (only 1/2 day a week!) but he has ASD so it may be atypical. He learnt to snatch and shout 'mine' or 'I'm first' a lot. He also learnt to bite when he wasn't getting his own way. This may have just been an age thing, but it's coincidental that he was bitten twice before he started doing it.

It's a noticeable difference, even at 4yo when he plays with HE children and when he plays with those who are schooled. When he plays with children from school he comes out with phrases like 'I'm gonna kill you!' or 'I hate you' which he wouldn't normally say.

I don't think it's a teacher or a schools fault necessarily, just a large group of similar age children policing themselves because 90% of the day the teacher is dealing with someone else. It's inevitable with large class sizes that we have and now mixed ages to model more mature behaviour. Sad

As for what we've done, me and DD (15mo) played with corn flour and water (if you haven't tried it you should). I'm not sure what the educational benefit was, but she loved it.

DS refused to touch it.

Then we all painted some paper mâché planets we made earlier this week to use as pinatas at DS birthday party on Sunday (he wants an astronaut theme).

Currently DS is attempting to teach DD to read whilst I have a cup of tea and play catch up on important events on MN Grin

Gracie123 · 30/11/2011 15:09

*no mixed ages - iPhone predictive text thwarts me again. Wink

MudAndGlitter · 02/12/2011 14:08

Watching with interest! DS is 2.9 I've just ordered a few jolly phonics things of amazon for him. We also have the Oxford reading tree but it bores me stupid!

MoonFaceMamaaaaargh · 04/12/2011 14:25

jumping in to say hi. Love the crystal lolly idea!

Ds has been doing crow impressions in the park this week. We also recently made a papier mache pig. He dropped a ceramic pig and it broke. This was months ago but ever since he kept saying "oink oink, uh-oh". Being so young i think it was his first experience of something (so obviously and irredeemably) breaking and stayed with him. He seemed sad whenever he said it so i thought it might help if we made a new pig. (btw no one in any way indicated to him that the pig breaking was bad/his fault etc,). And he hasn't said it since, though of course this might be coincidence.

I'm enjoing reading about everyone's antics.

Was just wondering if people have any idea yet how they will be he-ing (if they will). We're planning on an autonimous (sp...my phone refuses to believe the word exists and i'm not sure in to spell it!) approach.

JingleAllTheSoddingWay · 04/12/2011 17:44

We're probably going to
Go down the autonomous route.

It's already perfectly clear to us the Ds1 picks up and learns things quicker/easier if it's something he's started off his own back!

He's currently well into animals, asking what they are, what noise they make.

He asked me what the meat on his plate was tonight! I said "Pork, it comes from a pig" he said "peppa oink oink"

We'll get there Grin

philbee · 05/12/2011 17:27

Hi there. My DD is at preschool but I really like to do some more HE type planned stuff at home too. We tend to do the same sorts of things again and again. I'm also keen to read a bit more about HE as I think if he doesn't get a school place near us I'll keep her out a year.

Just wondering if anyone has recommendations for books / websites / blogs with good ideas an approaches. And what are you aiming for? I feel like education should be about stimulating curiosity, building confidence and giving children the tools to research and find out for themselves. Are there other principles that I've missed?

AngelsfromtherealmsofgloryDog · 12/12/2011 22:44

We're thinking about fairly informal learning, but probably not entirely autonomous, Moonface.

I like your description of your aims, philbee. :)

John Holt is good IMO. How Children Learn is the classic. I found that and quite a few other books in our library (but we're in an affluent middle class area obsessed by education so that might influence the choice available!)

How Children Learn at Home and Educating Your Child at Home by Alan Thomas are good. He?s got a website as well I think. He?s an academic who has spent a lot of time researching HE in the UK and Australia (if I remember rightly).

23 m.o. DS has been learning about numbers, days of the week and the sounds that letters make at the start of words (T says 't' for train etc). He definitely learns quickly when it's something he's particularly interested in.

He had his first foray into playdough today and we're going to make Christmas tree decorations from salt dough this week. Otherwise 'helping' me with cooking and taking the existing decorations on & off the Christmas tree are the main activities here. Xmas Smile

MoonFaceMamaaaaargh · 13/12/2011 11:24

hi angeldog, Smile do you know where you'll draw the line between informal and autonomous?are there particular things you want to cover that you don't think will come up autonomously? I'm just curious? Do you plan to he full time/indefinatly? Smile

Philbe i completely agree with your principles. Can't offer any recommendations i'm afraid, this is very much the begining of a journey for us. Smile

AngelsfromtherealmsofgloryDog · 13/12/2011 22:06

Well, we're not terribly well thought out really, MFM. Wink I think we'll probably want to initiate things a reasonable amount. But no way do we intend to do 'school at home'. I think it's too restrictive, and there's no way I could be organised enough for that approach either!

We're Christians so we obviously want to teach him about the Bible and so on. And in theory we'd like to him to be able to learn about logic, philosophy and maybe Latin/classics. Basically all the things we wish we'd had chance to learn when younger.

I think really our approach is to give it a go and adjust what we do accordingly - we don't have much of a plan really. I do like the idea of working with what he's interested in. It helps that I'm a generalist and interested in everything. Grin

I did use to be a primary teacher which is useful in that it gives me confidence to ignore a lot of the stuff that's done by schools, or do it a different way. :)

The main constraint on how long we can HE for will probably be whether we can afford to live on DH's salary. (And I suppose that'll be affected by how many DC we end up with. Wink Incidentally, AF has come back AT LAST after all my posting about it on the bf board so we can TTC now - woo hoo! Grin)

The current plan is to try HE a year at a time (full time) and see how it goes and whether it works for us as a family.

AngelsfromtherealmsofgloryDog · 13/12/2011 22:31

We are getting a lot of mileage out of a simple phonics type song which I learnt during teacher training.

A more official version is here but I have my own adaptation. It's to the tune of Skip to the Lou and goes:

A is for apple, a a a
A is for ambulance, a a a
A is for afternoon, a a a
A a a a a

I use words which I know DS uses or understands.

He 'learnt' letters by playing with foam letters in the bath, and now he often makes a letter sound and asks me to sing about it. (T for train/track/trailer/tractor is a particular favourite, as is C for car/carriage/coach - you can spot his interests there!)

MrsOlf · 14/12/2011 06:08

Hello
Can I join? We're moving to Houston for 9 months in Jan and I will be HEing DD1 (5) and DD2 (3). Lots of things to think about here, so thank you!

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