Wood painting nightmare

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I understand that there is a crisis at the moment, so this doesn't compare. However, I'm having a wood painting nightmare and don't know what to do.

The paint I have is Johnstones Silk wood paint, once. It's find on the skirting boards but really bloody awful on the shutters/door. There is previous gloss paint on there and I sanded it down but it's very patchy.

Do I need a primer do you think? Don't know what to do. Also, the previous paint has drips on it, do I sand those off? I actually looked up how to remove paint but it seems really time consuming but may have to do that.

Any ideas much appreciated.

I hate woodpainting and have acres to do. You HAVE to strip and sand it properly and use a primer or it just won't look good. There are no short cuts. I hate it.

Really?! I have to strip all the paint off? I'm going to be doing this for weeks then. At least the skirting boards are fine. It's the door and shutters.

Do you recommend any strippers? I saw that there was one which is a kind of gel that is put on and some paper is put over it which takes off a lot of gel and paint. Does that sound familiar?

Do you need to give it another coat?

No the paint is just sliding over the gloss in patches. It's not the paint as it was fine on the skirting boards.

I'm currently researching Super Grip Primers to see if that would work before I strip them.

OP

You don't need to strip the paint off. I will be a mammoth task as you said.

But you do need to sand it really well especially the fine detail on the door. Suggest you use a good oil based undercoat (we used Johnstone's ). Sand gently the undercoat and then use an oil based top coat. Don't used "once" paint. It is always a compromised. I don't use water based paints either as although they don't yellow as quickly, they are not as robust.

It doesn't need to come off down to the wood but you need to sand it down properly. You can buy liquid sander to get a good bit off then a sander attachment for your cordless or corded drill. That should do it. I have dark brown gloss varnish to paint over on all the door frames and skirting boards. It's hell on earth.

Thank you so much. I actually ordered Zinsser B-I-N Shellac-Based Primer Sealer today. I perhaps should have added an oil based paint to the order! Too late now.

The woodwork does need stripping at some point as it's very old and covered in layers of paint. I was even thinking about just buying a new door...which is how much I want to avoid doing it.

Op, you need a super grip primer, you can buy one off of Amazon. You can’t paint over gloss as it just slips off. So you need to use a super grip primer that the paint grips to.

@madcatladyforever thank you, that's a great idea. Didn't think about getting a sander drill attachment. Will look into that.

@Bluntness100 Thank you, I bought a primer which is meant to work on gloss. It works on high gloss surfaces. Let's wait and see and yes, I have seen to my chagrin, how the paint just slips off. Couldn't believe it when I was trying to paint.

My first thought was that you're trying to use a water based paint on top of oil based gloss- never going to work. Just painted a bunch of skirtings, doors etc and where I suspect it's previously oil based I've used zinsser BIN first and had no issues with my water based eggshell on top.

@TiddleTaddleTat Thanks. Yes, I believe that's the problem. I'm waiting for my order of Zinsser to arrive. It should have arrived today but has been delayed until Monday now. I hope that will sort it out.

We’ve used Zinsser BIN over all kinds of old woodwork and had no problems painting over with a water based paint afterwards. We’ve done minimal sanding and just used the primer. It’s amazing stuff!

I'm currently using this for the bannisters and then some finer bits for the areas that need more detailed sanding.

www.amazon.co.uk/Coarse-Grit-Wheel-Sanding-Drill/dp/B077BN3322/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=sander+attachments+for+drills&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&qid=1585436059&sr=8-14

www.amazon.co.uk/SIQUK-Sanding-Backing-Buffering-Grinder/dp/B07RB4WTLV/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=sanding+attachment+for+drills&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&qid=1585436171&sr=8-5

P,S If I could afford to replace all the woodwork in the house I would but I can't.

@slewts it looks very good. I'm also wondering if it will do on a varnished wardrobe as I might paint it instead of getting a new one. It's good to hear that it worked for you.

@madcatladyforever that's just brilliant. Thank you so much. I will check those out further. I don't envy you having to strip back loads of wood though, having said that, my banisters do need a coat...

The Zinsser primer you've bought is great. I've used it lots and only sanded drips on the previous surface before starting work. I've used it on a stained, varnished fire surround which I then painted with a water based satinwood and on wood grained doors and on woodwork, changing from gloss to satinwood. It's worth every penny imo and far less messy than sanding.

@wowfudge I applied the primer today. Will wait and see how it looks tomorrow as I'm unsure about adding a second coat. Seems a bit ott though as I'm planning on a couple of coats of paint.

Bought mini rollers which are a game changer. If there's enough primer left, I'll do the wardrobe as well.

Will report back with results.

We had all our brown varnished internal doors painted white(by a painter and decorator)

He sanded them with an electric sander. Then used two coats of primer then two coats of satinwood.

They look amazing. I have done a couple of others since and didn't get quite as good a finish but I'll keep trying.

Primer and paint were a trade brand.

I finished decorating our walk in coat cupboard yesterday - the skim coat just came off with the tatty wallpaper inside - so I've used loads of plaster repair and another Zinsser product called Gardz to seal and prime prior to wallpapering and the wallpaper went on really easily. The doors are going back on tomorrow. I did two coats of primer on each side of the doors, but having given the frame only one coat think I could have saved myself a bit of work.

@Duckingell it sounds like he did a really thorough job OP. They sound lovely. I didn't sand the drips and now regret that.

@wowfudge the one coat seems to have worked as the paint went on today with no problem. It is absolutely brilliant. There is a load left so I'm going to do my wardrobe. I don't know what paint to use for it though or what colour.

Any photos? Sounds like a lot of work and it sound really nice.

We haven't put the doors back on yet - this wfh lark is busy!

It was a lot of work and I'm glad it's finished! I re-hung the doors today - here's a photo as requested. I've not taken a full length photo as it's really distinctive and I think recognisable if anyone who knows me is on here.