Irish passport question.

[MegCleary]

DD has Irish passport and we want to head to Ireland in august. Her passport expires in dec is there enough validity on it?

If you are travelling from the UK, technically she doesn't even need a passport at all.

But the airline or ferry company will want to see a passport or other ID as part of their terms and conditions of carriage. As long as the passport is still in date (which you've said it is) there is no other rule that has to be complied with (e.g. 3 months validity as for Schengen - RoI is not in Schengen).

It’s the common travel area so those rules as to passport validity don’t apply.

Thanks

Right now we are trying for Spain in October, passport still expires in dec will it be ok for travel from uk to Spain?

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Thank you. The travel agent booking thought it had to have 6 months valid or that’s what they recommend. I stated what you did but I am now crapping myself that easyJet from Luton will disagree 😳 holiday may be gone.

Any one had this?

Hi OP, I had this very thing.

Travelled to Malaga from UK on my Irish passport and I needed 3 months. They checked it very carefully at passport control. I went in May and passport expired in August.

The good news is the renewal is all done online and I got a new one in about a week from applying.

You can probably update it online very quickly. my mum got it in 4 days.

Was that at passport control in Spain @AhNowTed ?

Could they not tell you were Irish by your username?
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According to Dept of Foreign Affairs, it just needs to be valid for the duration of the stay.

https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/spain/#:~:text=General%20Travel%20Advice&text=When%20travelling%20within%20Europe%20with,de%20Extranjeros%20(Foreigners%20Office).

@Whatsfordinneragain

Yes the Spanish control, and they told me it needed 3 clear months. I literally had a few days spare.

ravelled to Malaga from UK on my Irish passport and I needed 3 months. They checked it very carefully at passport control. I went in May and passport expired in August.The good news is the renewal is all done online and I got a new one in about a week from applying.

this is NOT TRUE. Any EU passport is valid for travel for any EU country as long as it has not expired. That's it. No member state is allowed under EU law to require any other validity.

You do not need 3 or 6 months on any EU passport to go to Spain, or anywhere else in the EU.

You may well be right but that's what they told me. He was literally calculating the days as I was stood there.

I can assure you I am 100 per cent correct and you can easily check for yourself if you like.
It's a fundamental piece of EU legislation.

It is correct to say that the 6 months is not needed at passport control going from UK to Ireland, but the airline/ferry company might have have slightly different ID requirements - so it’s worth checking. I booked flights for my family who all have Irish passports and when I went to check in online and add the passport info, it wouldn’t accept one of my kid’s passport details. I kept trying and then realised it was because the Ryanair ID requirements were 3 months validity on passports. I used her UK passport instead.

Well this is a mine field isn’t it, this what dfa.ie

I just wish someone would take responsibility and say yes or no. EasyJet says it’s what the embassy says. The embassy says double check if airline might have own rules. It’s bull crap

So why do airline get to change what countries require

@AhNowTed that goes against all I have read!

So why do airline get to change what countries require

They don't! Ryanair DO NOT require you to have a certain validity, as they are not allowed to by EU law, and if they did they would have had massive repeated fines and all kinds of legal troubles. They don't.

Please ignore the poster above advising you that airlines and ferries can have their own requirements, they are absolutely not allowed to and would not even think of trying to do so.

Any EU passport only has to be valid on the date of travel to go to any other EU state. It doesn't even need to be valid for the length of your trip.

Freedom of movement is one of the fundamental pillars of the EU and is taken very seriously.

Oh and the DFA webchat is staffed by untrained temp staff who haven't a notion. It's not really their fault but I would ignore them entirely!

Fair enough, but can you think of another reason they wouldn’t let me check in with a less than 3 month validity Irish passport then? I even tried checking in with the wrong expiry date, which did give 3 months validity, and that was accepted into the system (but obviously I removed it, because it was incorrect and would’ve been flagged at boarding and just used her UK passport instead)?

My dilemma is I now shell out £126 to get her uk one renewed or risk going on her Irish one. Just cuts into our spending money. I delayed booking the flights a day as I was unsure about passport and they went up £230. All and all £350 so far potentially on what should be a yes or no question.

There's no risk involved. No airline can stop an EU national from entering an EU member state with a valid passport. If they do you can laugh all the way to the bank....