Can't go to an EU country - where else for August?

[LittleGreyFluffyCat]

I was planning to start researching and book a holiday in the South of France. Eldest DC just told me today that won't work for him, because he's already had his 90 days in Europe (gap year activities).

Brexit rules mean he can't go back into the EU "After Brexit, you can stay in the EU, Iceland, Norway, and Switzerland without a visa for up to 90 days in a 180-day period."

I'm feeling stuck now! Anyone got any ideas? Ideal criteria:

• Not so hot you can't do anything


• Shortest flight possible (I hate flying)


• Not super-expensive luxury prices, as budget as possible for non EU

I mentioned Bulgaria because the 90/180 day rule is for the schengen area. Bulgaria isn't in the Schengen area so you can visit for 90 days regardless of how long you've been in other EU countries. Same with Romania, Cyprus and Croatia.

It's not 90 days in a year/6 months.
It's 90 days in any rolling 180.

So, count back 180 days from when you want to go away. How many days will he have spent in the Schengan zone?

There are online calculators

ec.europa.eu/assets/home/visa-calculator/calculator.htm?lang=en

And yes, they are checking- your passport is scanned on entry...

My passport was checked last week for this very thing (I was fine - hasn't overstayed the 90 day rule, but they do check. I honestly wouldn't risk it, unless you go to one of those countries mentioned above which have a separate 90 day rule per country.

Yes, it is the Schengen area, not the EU, so plenty of places outside of that agreement. Cyprus (proper Cyprus, not the north) is outside of the Schengen area.

As another poster mentioned it is 90 days within 180, and therefore you could be ok. And YES the do check this, and the typical fine is €1k per day.

It is a rolling 90 in 180 days - find one of the on line calculators and it will work it out for you

Croatia is beautiful, lots of variety, Dubrovnik is a lovely walled city, then you have gorgeous beaches, pretty islands, stunning scenery. So if that's a possibility I would go there

@SapereAude ah ok. I have been in and out of the country this year too. I got residency in eu country earlier this year and was over the 90 day limit. I do have residency now but don't have my card issued yet. And I travel on a uk passport. I've had no issues. Maybe it depends where in the EU.

I travelled into Spain on my UK passport and they stamped it.
I left on my EU passport to see whether it would flag up and it didn't.
According to my UK passport I am still in Spain from what people on here are saying.

Do they really stamp your passport in and out each time?

There are some very helpful suggestions here, thank you.

I've done the online calculators as some of you suggested and yes he'll be over the 90 days. But looks like we have some options with other suggestions on this thread - either get a visa for France, or go to one of the non Schengen area places you've suggested.

Thanks!

Not yet.
But as time goes on they probably will.
In any case, your ppt is scanned. The info from APIs etc and any therefore any entry/exit anomalies are flagged up anyway.

This. The 90 day thing is up there with not being allowed to take sandwiches and fruit when you drive from the UK to the EU.

I didn’t even know about it. Presumably it doesn’t apply to people with dual citizenship?

The “stupid fuckers” are probably working , not winging about how hard life is that you can only spend 3 months every half a year on holiday.

@hupfpferd yes they do stamp non-EU passports on entry and exit each time. If you left on an EU passport it wouldn't have caused you an issues as they wouldn't have been expecting it to have been stamped on Entry.

@Kendodd no it doesn't apply to people with dual EU-UK citizenship or to people with EU residence permits.

Only if you travel on the relevant passport.
You would need to enter Spain on your Spanish passport and enter the UK on your British one. You'd obviously need to check your residency status as citizenship doesn't necessarily confer residency.

@lightisnotwhite , holidays aren’t the only reason why people spend time abroad. There’s work, study, looking after family members, the list goes on. Use your imagination.

Canary islands are not in EU and the breeze factor makes it cooler than mainland

Umm they're part of Spain.

They definitely are in the EU.

Are you sure about that? I seem to remember the biggest Leave voting demographic was the retired.

Still waiting for a tangible positive from Brexit, anyone?

Christ the amount of ignorance amongst the average Brit about what brexit travel restrictions would mean is staggering!
no wonder we have these gangsters in power!
Thank fuck I have duel citizenship!
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@Bunnyfuller

Yes, I'm not finding a lot of pleasure in 'I told you so'
One peice of news that cheered me though. Immigration is ABOVE pre Brexit levels. This delighted me and I can't wait to deliver the news to red faced racists I know (I know, NALVAR) who voted Leave because the don't like foreign people. They replaced white European Christian immigrants (who they hate) for brown Asian Muslim immigrants (who they really, really hate). 😀

That’s because there’s absolutely none! They’ve all gone very quiet!