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Please tell me where Brits can holiday this Christmas?
Blackpoolhotelier · 14/10/2021 20:48
My dp and I are double jabbed. DCs are 13 and 12 and not yet vaccinated.
We have never been abroad but this year are finally financially able to afford a holiday over Christmas. We can't go anywhere in summer or half terms due to our business.
But I'm so confused, googling shows endless sites about our green list but not which of those countries are admitting Brits.
Is anyone able to tell me where I should start looking? I really fancy centreparcs in the Netherlands or Belgium but open to anything really
Geamhradh · 15/10/2021 06:55
Most EU/European countries accept British travellers but in some, unvaccinated teens will have to be tested, in others quarantine, which is obviously no good for a short break. Each country has different regulations, you just have to go through each one's regulations to see where they won't need to quarantine.
I'm in Italy, and they'd need to quarantine for 5 days so that's off your list sadly.
CactusFlowers · 15/10/2021 07:29
Belgium and Netherlands won’t be possible as the children will have to quarantine.
BlowDryRat · 15/10/2021 15:56
TUI has an excellent tool to check where you can go and what the restrictions are depending on vaccination status: www.tui.co.uk/destinations/info/entry-restrictions-map
Tal45 · 15/10/2021 16:12
It's all very unclear. UK gov site says that for Italy under 18's travelling with vaccinated parents don't need to quarantine - but I just read on another thread that the Italy gov site doesn't say this. Then there's the covid pass app thing that lots of countries now want for you to be able to eat in/use public transport etc and the teens would have to be tested regularly if they need to be double vaxxed to get that. I read on eoronews however that to get the Italy covid pass you only need one jab. Who knows what's the case, it's a logistical nightmare and could change at any time.
Geamhradh · 15/10/2021 16:26
That's me causing confusion on the other thread! Sorry!
But yes, anyone travelling needs to check exit and entry rules for each country.
In Italy you are able to generate your green pass after one dose, but it becomes invalid if you then don't take up the second one.
You definitely need a Pass or negative test no older than 48 hours to do lots of things. And there are people at the doors checking. We went to the Colosseum about a month ago, and DD hadn't yet had her second jab do she had a neg test which was due to expire the same day. The guy was very specific and said "right, you've got 90 minutes then this expires".
Muchtoomuchtodo · 15/10/2021 16:29
Not many places with kids that age unless you’re happy to run the gauntlet with pre departure and during the holiday testing.
We’re in the same situation.
Blackpoolhotelier · 15/10/2021 21:11
Thanks all. Even the government websites are unclear. I wish some clever person would do a table of whi can go where and what each requirements are.
I saw the beginning of the other thread and then accidentally clicked on hide thread instead of watch thread. Could someone link it for me so I can read the rest of it. It seemed Spain might get the easiest
underneaththeash · 15/10/2021 21:14
The issue is that it keep changing.
You’ll be fine with any country which relies on tourism / eg. Caribbean.
US possibly not.
Bramshott · 18/10/2021 15:47
France and Spain are currently the easiest places with teens I think - test before departure and then Day 2 test for all on return. For France you also need to top the teens TousAntiCovid app up with a 29euro antigen test every 72hrs.
Germany, Belgium, Netherlands and Austria are all a big fat no for the time being if you have teenagers.
littlestmunchkin · 18/10/2021 17:07
What's Greece like anyone know? I am also confused !
loopsngeorge · 18/10/2021 17:51
@Geamhradh
But yes, anyone travelling needs to check exit and entry rules for each country.
In Italy you are able to generate your green pass after one dose, but it becomes invalid if you then don't take up the second one.
You definitely need a Pass or negative test no older than 48 hours to do lots of things. And there are people at the doors checking. We went to the Colosseum about a month ago, and DD hadn't yet had her second jab do she had a neg test which was due to expire the same day. The guy was very specific and said "right, you've got 90 minutes then this expires".
Geamhradh do you know what the situation is for teens when flying home from Italy? Do they need to be within a valid negative test window in order to access the airport as its inside?? Just trying to work out how many tests DD will need while we are there!
Blackpoolhotelier · 18/10/2021 18:21
Spent the day looking at Thailand rules. Looks like they may relax rules on November 1st. If you stay in one area fir a week you can take unvaccinated teens. So I'll be keeping my eye on that the next few weeks.
Geamhradh · 18/10/2021 18:31
@loopsngeorge, I'll see what I can find. Which airport is it?
Muchtoomuchtodo · 18/10/2021 19:23
@Bramshott
Germany, Belgium, Netherlands and Austria are all a big fat no for the time being if you have teenagers.
France is tricky because everyone has to sign a declaration that they’ve not been in contact with anyone whose tested positive in the last 14 days.
Neither of our teenagers could do that atm, nor me as an NHS worker.
AnnieSnap · 18/10/2021 23:03
@littlestmunchkin
Pretty sure it’s cold in late Autumn and Winter.
Geamhradh · 19/10/2021 06:30
@loopsngeorge
I've had a look and can't see anything specific on the Naples airport website, though it does say you need a green pass to actually get on a plane in Italy (that's a blanket restriction that came into force on 1/9- and it's any plane to any destination)
Do Brits still have to test before leaving Italy? Because that would cover that requirement. Neg test= green pass.
That seems logical as though I haven't flown I have been on a train, and you don't need a pass to get into the station, but you do to get onto the train iyswim?
On the general Italian airport website (though they're all run by different companies) it does say "to enter sensitive areas" you need a pass. Again, I presume that means airside.
I'd check with whoever is organizing the trip or the airline itself though to be sure.
There's a really useful group on FB called Covid travel or sth that is often more handy than the gov websites because it's people that have actually done the trips! I'll find the link.
CeeceeBloomingdale · 19/10/2021 06:35
@AnnieSnap
Although the entry rules might let us in, most resorts insist all over 12s are double jabbed so that would restrict OP.
littlestmunchkin · 19/10/2021 11:22
@AnnieSnap we're after sightseeing, not beaches , so that's ok !
AnnieSnap · 19/10/2021 16:06
@littlestmunchkin I hear you. We’re not into lying on beaches either, but I think it’s properly cold. Also, if you’re thinking of the island, most restaurants etc are closed from the beginning of October.
littlestmunchkin · 19/10/2021 17:19
@AnnieSnap ah, well, it was a nice thought for about ten minutes!
loopsngeorge · 21/10/2021 12:00
Geamhradh thanks for your reply about the airport. We have just been to do another test for DD just to be sure. No restaurants here in Sorrento are asking for anything, but Pompeii was, and was checking the time of her test.
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