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France - would you still go?
Tiredandtorn · 20/06/2021 13:44
Hey,
We have 10 nights in a camping village booked for august.
Dh & 1 are both double jabbed and the kids are under 11 so don't need to PCR. And currently we can enter France without an isolation period.
I just can't decide if going is the right thing to to do or not?
Accommodation is self contained and self catering and we'd be very happy chilling at the beach/pool for 10 days and wouldn't use kids clubs anyway as just not for us. Our travel is in our own car and on the Eurostar. We can afford the time to quarantine when we get home.
Currently covid rates are less in France than here.... it all sounds like a no brainer to go!
But with so many feeling travel is 'too risky' I can't decide!
Anyone else going for it with a self drive? Or anyone cancelled?
Tiredandtorn · 21/06/2021 06:48
Possible worst case scenario would be to pack up and leave early but I don't know what the official rules would be around this. If the uk becomes red whilst we're there, do we have to leave immediately or when planned?
loginfail · 21/06/2021 07:16
The risk I would want to be prepared for is that they close the border between France and the UK , so that you can't get back
Even when France has a very high case rate vs. the UK at the end of March France didn't go on the Red list, as much as anything possibly because doing that screws up freight/goods and other traffic inbound to the UK via the Channel ports/tunnel....
ATM the situation is very much reversed with France having very low case numbers vs. the UK so there's no sign of a return to that situation in the near future but it is something to watch if (?when) the delta variant becomes widespread over here.
DuchessMinnie · 21/06/2021 07:49
We will be going to France in august for 3 weeks. I have been so compliant all the way through but I have had enough now. We will drive in our own car and stay in our own accommodation. We'll do a big supermarket shop when we get there then get stuff from the markets and local shops. We will be absolutely safer there than here.
The photos of football crowds have finished me off now. I feel fed up with all the restrictions- do masks work? Why are rates rising if they do? Why do I need to wear a mask for 14 hours a day at work and on trains despite distancing and being double vaccinated? And I can't easily fly off on a break or even have a meeting with colleagues in the same room yet the G7 bbq on the beach looked fun and carefree.
So, I'm going and I will quarantine if needed.
Frazzled2207 · 21/06/2021 07:51
@Tiredandtorn
You’d get a few days notice most likely.
Flower8919 · 21/06/2021 07:52
I’m sorry I haven’t read the whole thread but I just think it is so very selfish for people to go on holiday right now.
Save yourself some worry and be sensible and stay at home. Why can’t people last one year without a holiday?? It’s crazy
loginfail · 21/06/2021 08:13
Save yourself some worry and be sensible and stay at home.
There are lots of people working in the UK travel industry right now worrying themselves sick that if people do all "stay at home" they will soon be out of work, and by this winter will have no means of supporting their own families or even keeping a roof over their head..
There's more to this than many people realise "Stay at home" will have dire consequences to tens if not hundreds of thousands of households, if it isn't already.
Hopefully at least some in UK Gov have the bigger picture and we might see further relaxation in restrictions later this week.
Flower8919 · 21/06/2021 08:20
Well that should be down to the government to support not for ordinary people to have to risk everything so some people don’t loose their jobs
iminthegarden · 21/06/2021 08:26
Yes!!! Go. It's your right as a free human you are not in prison. Why is travel too risky?
Frazzled2207 · 21/06/2021 08:50
@iminthegarden
Because the way this government makes mistakes you can’t be sure the rules aren’t going to change while you’re there! You have to pcr test to get back in the Uk, what happens if you or your df tests positive? So many what ifs. It’s not about it being safe it’s just the faff and uncertainty.
zafferana · 21/06/2021 08:51
@Flower8919
Save yourself some worry and be sensible and stay at home. Why can’t people last one year without a holiday?? It’s crazy
Oh, give over do! This kind of attitude is why so many of us want to get away from the nannying, self-appointed Covid police who think they get to dictate what others do with their time and money. Driving to self-contained accommodation, whether in this country or abroad, poses no more risk than staying at home, shopping in your local supermarket and going to restaurants in your local area. People are NOT selfish for wanting to go away and it's not for you to dictate to them!
Flower8919 · 21/06/2021 08:58
It’s not a nanny state! It’s the middle of a pandemic!! But sadly yes some people do need to police it to make sure others are following the rules.
Yes it is a big risk because you could bring back a variant from another country. It’s not such a hardship to go one year without a holiday abroad… their are plenty of nice places in the uk you can go to!
pantjog · 21/06/2021 09:01
I thought you still have to quarantine in France? Has anyone got a link?
loginfail · 21/06/2021 09:03
@Flower8919
WTH would "ordinary people" be risking everything??
Looking at this from overseas, reading all the posts about reluctance to travel/go back into the office/ do x, do y, it does look as if a lot of folks in the UK have lost all sense of proportion over the last year plus and certainly have become incredibly risk averse.
...HMG seem have done a bang on job at undermining parts of the national psyche.
If people are cognisant of the real risks and have made sure they can comply with any current or possible restrictions both in the country of holiday and on arrival back in the UK then there is no reason why they should not travel if they are comfortable in doing so.
loginfail · 21/06/2021 09:09
@pantjog
Not necessarily..Unlike some countries being vaccinated on arrival in France can have it's advantages...
"All travellers arriving from an amber list country must present the transport company and border control authorities with a negative PCR test less than 72 hours prior to departure (first flight departure in case of connecting travel) or a negative antigen test less than 48 hours prior to departure (first flight departure in case of connecting flight). Children aged below eleven years are exempt from testing.
Vaccinated travellers must also provide:
A sworn statement certifying the absence of COVID-19 symptoms and of any contact with a confirmed case of COVID-19;"
Proof of their vaccination status."....
Full details here:
www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actualites/L-actu-du-Ministere/Certificate-of-international-travel
Snooper22 · 21/06/2021 09:09
We are going for 3 weeks in Aug to our own accommodation, I'll be going whether it's amber or not. So sick of all this scaremongering. We are double vaxxed like the government wanted so why can't we have our freedoms.
Lalliebelle · 21/06/2021 09:12
We are off to France in August too so yes! I would go. All vaccinated, France happy to let us in, can't wait for the bread/cheese/wine in the sun fest 
Flower8919 · 21/06/2021 09:16
@Snooper22 because even if you’re vaccinated you can still catch and transmit the virus
Frezia · 21/06/2021 09:16
I would. I have flights booked for an amber country in July to go see family, but I'd go for a holiday too. Just take sensible precautions. I'm 0% bothered about people trying to guilt trip me. I'm more likely to pick up and spread the Delta variant here than spending time with my fully vaccinated family, being tested every step of the way and following the rules.
loginfail · 21/06/2021 09:16
@Flower8919
Yes it is a big risk because you could bring back a variant from another country. It’s not such a hardship to go one year without a holiday abroad… their are plenty of nice places in the uk you can go to!
- Do you realise how sinister this is starting to sound?Why do you think you should police anything?
2. If you are in the UK I'd be really really cautious about preaching to the rest of Europe or the world about how they should handle the risks from other variants, or the threat that returning Brits could present to the UK....
If people are OK to travel iaw with the national rules at botht end of the journey then best of luck to them.
Flower8919 · 21/06/2021 09:22
I don’t mean to sound sinister and I don’t mean specifically me! But for the same reason you would police anything else yourself! If you saw someone committing a crime or doing something that is risky to others would you call them out on it? This is the same! If the government won’t enforce it properly then sadly some of us have to speak up about what is right
oldwhyno · 21/06/2021 09:25
observe the rules and it's "right" as far as I'm concerned.
beggingforsleep · 21/06/2021 09:26
Bit of a different angle to it but has anyone been to france recently? And if so how was the reception?! We have two weeks booked at the end of July to stay in a house in northern france. It's a seaside town that relies on French tourism not British. We're double vaccinated so can go and it's somewhere I've been every year (bar last year) since birth as my grandparents lived there so it feels like home but I'm now feeling like even though I'm allowed to go I doubt the French want brits there.
mamaoffourdc · 21/06/2021 09:28
All kids have to do the pcr test when returning to the uk
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