Plane etiquette

[SJane48S]

Not a big deal at all and could very well be just middle aged annoyance (where really really small things just seem to getting on my wick pretty much all the time, I'm even annoying myself!) but are people ruder & less considerate on planes than they used to be? We flew to New York 2 weeks ago, just before half term and our flight was full of loved up milennials on splurged 'you're taking me to New York, you must really be into me' mini breaks taking selfies snogging and then putting their seats on full recline from take off to touch down.It was a day flight and 3/4 of the seats were on full bloody recline. As an ex pat brat, I spent a lot of my childhood on longhaul flights and was taught it was ok to recline when you wanted to sleep but seat up otherwise, especially when people are eating. We spent the entire flight with seats in our faces and didn't recline ours as there was a young family with small children behind us. Is this standard practice for this generation?! And while I'm in full whinge mode, what is this new trend for having the shutters down the entire flight, even in daytime? Do other people like this?!

I know the answer is if I don't like it, upgrade, before anyone else says it but as well as being an increasingly grumpy old bag I seem to be becoming increasingly tight grumpy old bag!

Somebody next to you keeping on turning round and talking through the seats

They were turning into the aisle. Given they both had aisle seats.

No one is suggesting unfolding the table half way. The poster was referring to the fact that the whole thing can be slid out towards you as it is extendable and also that it can be raised a couple of inches higher. You can definitely fit a whole meal on it, I have.

The Emirates ones aren't like that - they fold in half and come out at one height.

What Honeyroar said. There's no 'etiquette' that says you cannot recline your seat during a day flight or short flight. It's not rude.

I've never had trouble on Emirates, they told in half yes (just like Virgin PE ones do) but they still extended.

Seats can recline because you're allowed to be more comfortable and this right is given to everyone. It is not rude IMO. Some people might be on a connecting flight, injured, too tall, feeling sick, so many reasons. If the airlines didn't want you to recline your seats they would change the seats to ones that don't recline!

When that happens to me I suddenly have the need to get up and down quite a lot and as I’m a little clumsy, always grabbing the headrest each time as I bang my way out.

This. Clearly in the minority but I find reclining your seat during a day flight incredibly rude and inconsiderate. Am quite shocked at the number of selfish arseholes on this thread, but perhaps I shouldn't be. Threads like this remind me that people generally are selfish arseholes.

It's nothing to do with being a 'selfish arsehole' to recline your seat, on the contrary, passive aggressive wankers who think they're getting revenge by banging the seat or kneeing it are the selfish arseholes. Get a fucking life!

Threads like this remind me that people generally are selfish arseholes.

Including the selfish arseholes who deliberately bang into seats and pull on the headrest.

Including the selfish arseholes who deliberately bang into seats and pull on the headrest.

It wouldnt happen if people didnt recline in the first place. What is it that posters dont understand that reclining can effect everyone behind all the way to the back of the plane, its like a domino affect, and unfortunately you end up with the person at the back who cant recline, or in my dh's case last month his chair didnt recline.

He is 6f 2, his knees were jammed into the back of the seat as it was. As explained previously woman 2 seats in front chose to recline. Man stuck in the middle had the seat in his face , was squashed, DH seat would recline at all either, We were once on back row and same thing happened DH squashed and not able to eat or watch the screen, air stewardess was useless and refused to help.

2 people really uncomfortable because 1 person chose to recline.

I would also say we pay extra for leg room if possible so dh isnt stuck , suggest people who "need" to recline pay extra for a chair that will not affect others ie premium economy.

The seats are made to recline. So imo you can do just that. You should not recline during pre meal drinks or the meals. That is damn rude and makes the person behind have a v difficult time eating their food. Afterwards it's fine!

If you are v tall you should book an extra legroom seat or save up for a cabin with more legroom. Simples.

If you are v tall you should book an extra legroom seat or save up for a cabin with more legroom. Simples.
We do but not always possible, but same if you need to recline , you should do the same. Thankfully companies are seeing sense and not including reclining seats on their new planes.

Well, then, use companies whose planes don't recline, bruffin. Diddums. It's not rude or 'selfish arsehole', it's must people choosing to use the seat in one of the forms it's made to do so (on planes where the seat reclines).

I'm scared of flying. Having the shutters down helps me pass if less.
Seat reclining is rude tho

@clucky3 If you had read the thread, you'd realise that some people are travelling between timezones and to them, it may be night. They may be in pain or sick, they may have been travelling for 26 hours straight and that leg is the only leg they've been able to get to sleep on. I think the selfish arseholes are the ones who cannot or won't consider these things, and think that everyone is taking an ordinary daytime flight with no problems. Try putting yourself in someone else's shoes before being so judgemental.

@clucky3 yeah because there'sNo chance someone could have been working or traveling all night before that “day flight” how short sighted are you???!!!!ffs...

Those who suggest that sliding the tray table closer to you, obviously don't have my boobs & belly! I don't need a seat belt extender but once sat down, there's not much room between me and the tray table.

I'm a recliner and people behind getting shitty and childish about it, are the rude and ignorant ones. Don't like it- then pay for a seat where it doesn't occur. I despise the dramatic huffers and seat drummers- and the levels of pathetic raw they sink to. It's cattle class. It's not comfortable, the slight crappy recline makes it's slightly more so. I always do the gentle warning recline (and only after meal service) with a few centimetres so you get used to the idea, and then we are off and down. The kamikaze recliners who are there ore take off giving me a head injury due to the force of recline as I line up my snacks and books irritate- but I don't say anything or okay passive aggressive arsehole- because I'm in cattle class and they have a reclining seat and can do as they wish with it.

I’m happy personally if someone wants to sleep (day or night) and reclines or needs to for some physical reason but quite honestly, let’s be real, while you’re never going to know this sitting behind, the likelihood of all the recliners across the entire plane sticking their chairs back on the get go having just come off a flight or being in physical pain or having just had some personal tragedy is quite slim. It is by and large people who assume it’s their divine right. Nor do all people by any any means who don’t like a reclined seat in their front act the arsehole & knee people etc. The whole ‘I’m not the arsehole here, it’s the person behind who minds me constricting their space’ I’m just not getting.

It is by and large people who assume it’s their divine right.

It actually is their right to do it. That's the whole point here.

Well yes you can off course recline from the get go, you have the right too .. but it’s whether you should the entire flight out of consideration for other people that’s the point here. We can do lots of things, whether we should is another question @SarahNade