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Plane etiquette

148 replies

SJane48S · 07/11/2019 21:07

Not a big deal at all and could very well be just middle aged annoyance (where really really small things just seem to getting on my wick pretty much all the time, I'm even annoying myself!) but are people ruder & less considerate on planes than they used to be? We flew to New York 2 weeks ago, just before half term and our flight was full of loved up milennials on splurged 'you're taking me to New York, you must really be into me' mini breaks taking selfies snogging and then putting their seats on full recline from take off to touch down.It was a day flight and 3/4 of the seats were on full bloody recline. As an ex pat brat, I spent a lot of my childhood on longhaul flights and was taught it was ok to recline when you wanted to sleep but seat up otherwise, especially when people are eating. We spent the entire flight with seats in our faces and didn't recline ours as there was a young family with small children behind us. Is this standard practice for this generation?! And while I'm in full whinge mode, what is this new trend for having the shutters down the entire flight, even in daytime? Do other people like this?!

I know the answer is if I don't like it, upgrade, before anyone else says it but as well as being an increasingly grumpy old bag I seem to be becoming increasingly tight grumpy old bag!

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Parker231 · 08/11/2019 00:04

If someone reclined their seat during meal service I’d ask them to put their seat back up but otherwise day or night flight it’s ok to recline.

newmumwithquestions · 08/11/2019 00:05

If you are so horrified and inconvenienced by people reclining then you need to book seats like the bulkhead or exit row seats

^^ this.
Seats recline because it makes it more comfortable. If you want to sit bolt upright feel free, but don’t inflict it on everyone.
(I do always have my seat in upright for meal service)

dreichwinter · 08/11/2019 00:09

Seats are meant to recline apart from during a meal.
The reclining functionality isn't there by accident.
Pay to sit in one of the bulkhead seats if you are unable to deal with this.

Peakypolly · 08/11/2019 00:10

Recliners give me rage, but I don’t think it is an age related habit.
I now realise I have to include the price of business class seats in any long-haul holiday plans.

Tortoiser · 08/11/2019 00:17

I’m with the reclining people.
If a seat reclines I’m reclining it - when I want to sleep or watch a film.

TheTeenageYears · 08/11/2019 00:22

I would rather people reclined their seats from the off. It means I don't get used to having space which can be taken away when they recline and then feel really enclosed plus my tall son tends to find the only way he can sleep is by putting his head on his arms on the tray table. If he's got his head down and someone then reclines their seat it could be really dangerous.

SeaToSki · 08/11/2019 00:30

The main reason for putting the window blinds down is so that you can see the tv screen. Its also very difficult to sleep with bright sunlight streaming into your face and often a good way to manage jet lag is to have a quick cat nap on the plane. I think good plane etiquette is to just assume the best in others and try and keep your impact on your neighbours to a minimum.

Croquembou · 08/11/2019 00:33

Oh, my mum refuses to recline and spends the entire flight being annoyed by people who do. I've seen her be the only unreclined person on an entirely reclined flight. I don't understand it, she's really only spiting herself. I can't see that it's rude to use a seat function.

(With a special exclusion for people who recline at high velocity or at high velocity mid food service)

Croquembou · 08/11/2019 00:35

it could be really dangerous

As someone with a tall husband who also occasionally sleeps like this and has been reclined upon, I can assure you it's not really dangerous. Mildly amusing for onlookers, a little irritating for him, but not really dangerous.

Peaseblossom22 · 08/11/2019 00:39

I was also an expat child who did a lot of flying when young and so was always instructed to only recline if you had asked the person behind you . I think the problem has been exacerbated because in general leg room is less now than ever which means that if the person in front reclines there is literally no space.

PrincessaCarrisi · 08/11/2019 00:41

I don't really get the anti-recliners. The seats are designed to recline, I'm not doing a 16 hour flight sitting up the whole way!
I have had someone kick and push the back of my seat even before it went back - I think she was hoping for an upgrade.

BrokenLogs · 08/11/2019 00:44

I'm a frequent flyer and I always recline.

Seat goes upright at meal times and I'll ask the person in front to put theirs up if they don't.

To the pp 'clumsy' flyer who constantly would grab my headrest, you'd be asked nicely not to do that, then told to fuck off if you kept at it

Who wants to spend 10 hours sat bolt upright?? If everyone declines, you all have the same space.

Not rocket science.

EnFinale · 08/11/2019 00:47

The seats are supposed to recline...

EnFinale · 08/11/2019 00:52

Those of you saying you use your knee or cold air to ‘punish’ the person in front are really just displaying your rudeness and ignorance to the rest of us!

Honeybee85 · 08/11/2019 01:15

The last time I was on a plane when I was 25 weeks pregnant and the *sshole in front of me thought it was ok to recline his seat so far that I was stuck because of my huge belly, could barely get up to the toilet without hitting my bump on hos chair. Because my chair was at the end of the row with a wall directly behind it, I couldn’t recline mine. The lovely couple next to me also thought it was incredibly inconsiderate of him and even offered to switch seats so I could have more space (I declined because I had to get up to get to the bathroom quite often and would have to disturb them too much). Eventually the cabin crew asked him to be more considerate and thankfully he put the seat back in upright position. Some people are just nasty and selfish!

BrokenLogs · 08/11/2019 01:18

How is it his fault your chair didn't recline Honeybee85 Confused

Most people would expect the seat behind to recline, did you actually ask him to put his seat up or just assumed he was a selfish so and so because you were pregnant and he should have known?

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/11/2019 01:20

I’m with the reclining people.

I'm Team Recline too

Lipperfromchipper · 08/11/2019 01:23

@Honeybee85 maybe he didn’t realise you were pregnant Confused

Honeybee85 · 08/11/2019 01:24

@Brokenlogs

The type that of plane didn’t allow seats with a wall behind them to recline. It wasn’t my fault, just bad luck. Asked the cabin crew to give me another seat given the unfortunate situation but the plane was fullbooked.

I was VERY visibly pregnant and I made eye contact with him on my way back from the toilet to my seat. He could very clearly see I was pregnant.
Also the guy next to me was quite pissed off on my behalf about his behavior so he purposely spoke loudly about how rude it was of this man to behave like he did.

VaggieMight · 08/11/2019 01:24

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cstaff · 08/11/2019 01:34

On a long flight no problem but on a 1 or 2 hour flight I really don't see the need for 70% of passengers to have to put their seats on your lap.

This is one of the few reasons I love Ryanair as their seats are locked in place and can't be moved.

ShanghaiDiva · 08/11/2019 01:34

I think it's acceptable to recline (although it is irritating for the people behind) ,but not during meal service and ime cabin crew will ask the recliners to move their seat back to the upright position.

Shutters down is normally so that you can view the tv screen properly.
I don't recline my seat on short haul and on long haul I now fly business.

Lipperfromchipper · 08/11/2019 01:38

I was VERY visibly pregnant and I made eye contact with him on my way back from the toilet to my seat. He could very clearly see I was pregnant.

To be fair @Honeybee85 You are assuming that because you made eye contact he knew you were pregnant! You cannot assume that at all, some people are really not that bothered or observant unfortunately.

On another note not everyone on a plane is going on holiday, my dh mostly gets on a plane after three weeks of 90+ hours work. He reclines his seat and goes to sleep for the whole flight as he then has a long drive.

Honeybee85 · 08/11/2019 01:46

@lipperfromchipper

Was it your DH who did this too to a pregnant woman? Why are you trying to find excuses for behavior that is just rude by any normal standards?

I am pretty sure he saw that I was pregnant because we made eye contact after I saw him glancing at my body which was as I wrote before VERY obviously pregnant 🙄

BrokenLogs · 08/11/2019 01:59

You made eye contact 🙄

How about saying I'm pregnant, it's tough getting up and down, would you mind... Seriously you're sounding a bit entitled. I made eye contact, therefore everyone should know.

I was 39 weeks pregnant, very obviously pregnant, painting windows out the front when my next door neighbour started chatting. They were shocked when I told them I was due any day. Someone I saw most days, was standing chatting to. I was in a t-shirt and maternity skirt.

To me, very obviously pregnant. To him, it was a total surprise to hear.

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