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I hope Hula's ok?

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juniper68 · 12/08/2004 17:03

I was gutted when told today about the hurricane in florida and there's another due apparently? I feel bad for Hula and her family and just hope they're ok. Has anyone had a text?

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Earlybird · 13/08/2004 21:46

Here is the place I've been checking, and unfortunately it DOES mention Orlando....quotes the mayor as saying this storm is the worst in 40 years. I think the radar graphic is quite frightening, as it shows the severity of the storm in such a vivid way. Sorry I can't do links.

www.drudgereport.com

poppyseed · 13/08/2004 21:48

Lets hope that they are all OK.

JanH · 13/08/2004 21:55

This is the weather.com satellite (?) pic 20 minutes ago - doesn't look quite so scary, earlybird (it's the red bits that are worst).

Drudge Report - blue and green is not so bad - red and yellow are worst again. This is an hour earlier I think. But this one does look worse for Orlando because the storm is moving NE so the centre will miss Tampa but is heading for Orlando.

Earlybird · 13/08/2004 22:05

Thanks for that info JanH. Hope the storm simply turns out to be nothing more than alot of rain with some strong wind. Am sure that by this time tomorrow night we all will have read the first hand accounts of the storm from our friends in Florida. And we'll all heave a sigh of relief.

JanH · 13/08/2004 22:15

Latest report from NY Times, about 1-2 hours ago:

Hurricane Charley, with sustained winds of 145 m.p.h., made landfall about just off Fort Myers, Fla., this afternoon, with the center of the storm expected to push its way north.

"We didn't expect to have the eye as close as it is," Mayor Jim Humphrey of Fort Myers said in an interview on CNN.

Those who did not evacuate their homes earlier today were being told to stay put, mostly by radio, since the majority of the city was without power. The mayor suggested retreating to windowless bathrooms or closets, particularly in homes without shutters.

At about 4:30 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, the center of the storm was Charlotte Harbor, about 75 miles from here.

Gov. Jeb Bush estimated that the hurricane would cause about $15 billion in damage. Meteorologists are drawing comparisons to Hurricane Andrew, which devastated the state and killed more than 60 people in 1992, as well as to Hurricane Donna in 1960, the last major storm to hit Fort Myers.

The area's barrier islands are nearly deserted, Tampa International Airport has closed down, and train service between Miami and New York has been canceled. The Florida National Guard mobilized more than 2,500 troops.

While people in Fort Myers are coping with Charley's unexpected twist, those in Tampa, which was predicted to be the center of the storm, are breathing a bit easier.

"They will be on the weaker side of the storm," Ed Rappaport of the National Hurricane Center in Miami said in an interview on CNN.

Earlier today Governor Bush asked the president to declare a federal state of emergency.

In Orlando, which is in Charley's path, Walt Disney World has closed, though its hotels remain open, CNN reported.

"This is not the time to be getting on the interstate," Governor Bush said this morning. He urged Florida residents and tourists to stay indoors, but some ventured to beaches this morning to catch a glimpse of the choppy surf.

Soldiers and airmen of the National Guard are readying bottled water and coordinating with local law enforcement officials on how to best tackle potential problems like downed power lines and injuries.

"Tomorrow's really going to be the day they need us the most," said Sgt. Stephen Hudson, a public affairs specialist with the Florida National Guard.

The Guard is prepared to assist local law enforcement officials with evacuations, traffic control, the removal of debris and water purification.

Hurricane Charley is a category 4 storm, which is characterized by inland flooding, structural damage and winds of 131 to 155 m.p.h.

Even before Hurricane Charley joined the small ranks of Category 4 storms, meteorologists were already marveling at the fact that it was the second major storm to hit Florida in just over 24 hours. Tropical Storm Bonnie, which arrived on Thursday, was less severe than expected but yesterday, tornado spin-offs touched down in Eastern North Carolina, killing three people and injuring more than two dozen others.

Before the storm hit land, about 1.9 million people had been urged to evacuate the west coast. Most were in the counties of Hillsborough, which contains Tampa, and Pinellas, a peninsula that contains St. Petersburg.

For officials, the biggest worry had been informing a public unaccustomed to storms. "It's the largest storm to hit the Tampa area in quite some time," Erin Geraghty, a State Division of Emergency Management spokeswoman, said. "We don't want folks to get too comfortable. We get a lot of new residents in this state, I think we get 600 or 800 folks a day."

On Clearwater Beach Thursday, Frenchy's Rockaway Grill was closing up shop as the police trawled for stragglers. "Hurricanes always hit on the east coast," said April Coulter, 21, a waitress. "They hit like Louisiana. But we never have one in the Tampa Bay. That's why everyone's freaking out."

Tampa's streets were filled with testy drivers Thursday, and its stores were jammed with shoppers looking for last-minute supplies. At the Kash n' Karry Supermarket on Swann Avenue, the manager awaited a fresh truckload of bottled water. "There's no water, but I got beer," said Lisa Torres, 33, a teacher.

Peter Teahen, a spokesman for the American Red Cross, said Thursday that the agency had opened 10 shelters away from the coast, "but that number could soar dramatically."

The ones now open accommodate about 15,000 people, he said. Mr. Teahen said that those affected could call 866-GET-INFO to find out where to go.

Also, he said, in the Atlanta area the organization had "34 emergency response vehicles staged and ready to go to move into Florida, and 20 more coming in from Arkansas, Louisiana, Missouri" to provide food and emergency services after the storms passed.

nutcracker · 13/08/2004 22:18

Thanks for that Jan am proving useless at finding any info myself.

JanH · 13/08/2004 22:21

Well it's hardly getting any coverage here, nutty - which is surprising considering how many Brits go to Orlando in the summer! I've only got the NY Times thing because I subscribed from Kate's link earlier (it's free and you get a daily email which is quite interesting).

leander · 13/08/2004 22:21

Bl**dy hell I hope they are all ok

nutcracker · 13/08/2004 22:24

Well i tried Sky News but the signal keeps going (bloody freeview).

I find it weird that it's not getting much coverage. Surely they know we are all waiting to hear

JanH · 13/08/2004 22:25

BBC news report

HiJan · 13/08/2004 22:28

Sorry to hijack this for a minute,
Jan, are you receiving my emails. no need to respond to them but as i'm having trouble with emails at the mo just wondered? ttul

juniper68 · 13/08/2004 22:30

hope everyone is ok?

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JanH · 13/08/2004 22:33

Yep, ttul, just got your latest, thanks - don't panic!

Earlybird · 13/08/2004 22:36

Currently watching the BBC 1 news following the Olympic opening ceremony. We're 15 minutes into the broadcast (they're talking about oil prices at the moment), and there's still no mention of the Florida storm. Guess it's not considered a top story here yet.

juniper68 · 13/08/2004 22:37

lets hope no news is good news

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mummysurfer · 13/08/2004 22:45

itn news has just shown a reporter in tampa and he says it is still calm in the town but it is expected soon. no mention of orlando tho'

JanH · 13/08/2004 23:32

From yahoo's US weather website - have no idea which is Kate's county though. This means 11pm our time for another 1½ hours. Eeek.

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT - DAMAGE FROM HURRICANE CHARLEY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
605 PM EDT FRI AUG 13 2004

...EXTENSIVE WIND DAMAGE WILL CONTINUE TO AFFECT NORTHEASTERN
MANATEE...NORTHERN DESOTO...HARDEE...SOUTHERN POLK AND SOUTHEASTERN
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTIES...

AT 557 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED THE
EYE OF HURRICANE 13 MILES SOUTHWEST OF WAUCHULA...MOVING NORTH AT 22
MPH.

AT 557 PM EDT...EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS REPORTED SIGNIFICANT
WIND DAMAGE IN DE SOTO AND HARDEE COUNTIES.

WINDS OVER 110 MPH WILL AFFECT THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS THROUGH
7:30 PM EDT...
MYAKKA HEAD.
ONA.
ZOLFO SPRINGS.
WAUCHULA.
FORT GREEN.
BOWLING GREEN.
FORT MEADE.
BARTOW.
WINTER HAVEN.

THIS IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION! HURRICANE FORCE WIND GUSTS ARE
EXPECTED AS THE EYE OF THE HURRICANE MOVES THROUGH. THIS WILL CAUSE
SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE TO HOMES AND STRUCTURES. MOBILE HOMES MAY BE
DESTROYED. THIS IS A LIFE THREATENING SITUATION!

UNSECURED LIGHT WEIGHT OBJECTS WILL BECOME MISSILES...CAUSING
ADDITIONAL DAMAGE AND POSSIBLE INJURY. NUMEROUS LARGE BRANCHES WILL
SNAP...AND DOZENS OF TREES MAY BE UPROOTED. MOVE TO A STURDY BUILDING
AT ONCE...AND STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS!

&&

LAT...LON 2734 8217 2728 8167 2806 8147 2809 8202

Earlybird · 14/08/2004 07:06

Here's a report about the current situation, which was filed about an hour ago:

Hurricane Charley Whips Fla.; Three Dead

Aug 14, 12:58 AM (ET)

By JILL BARTON and ALLEN G. BREED

PUNTA GORDA, Fla. (AP) - Hurricane Charley struck west-central Florida with a wicked mix of wind and water Friday, ravaging oceanfront homes and trailer parks, tearing apart small planes and inundating the coast before moving inland to assault Orlando and Daytona Beach. Three people died during the storm and dozens were injured.

The Category 4 storm was stronger than expected when the eye reached the mainland Friday afternoon at Charlotte Harbor, pummeling the coast with winds reaching 145 mph and a surge of sea water of 13 to 15 feet. More than a million customers were without power statewide.

President Bush declared a major disaster area in Florida. His brother, Gov. Jeb Bush, projected damage from Charley could exceed $15 billion, but that estimate was preliminary.

Damage was especially heavy in downtown Punta Gorda on Charlotte Harbor.

"It looks like a war zone - power lines down everywhere, street signs, pieces of roofs blown off, huge trees uprooted," said Buddy Martin, managing editor of the Charlotte Sun.

Martin said he saw homes ripped apart at two trailer parks. "There were four or five overturned semi trucks - 18-wheelers - on the side of the road," he said.

Extensive damage was also reported on exclusive Captiva Island, a narrow strip of sand west of Fort Myers.

The hurricane rapidly gained strength in the Gulf of Mexico after crossing Cuba and swinging around the Florida Keys as a more moderate Category 2 storm Friday morning. An estimated 1.4 million people evacuated in anticipation of the strongest hurricane to strike Florida since Andrew in 1992.

By midnight, the center of the storm had moved offshore into the Atlantic Ocean northeast of Daytona Beach.

Charley reached landfall at 3:45 p.m. EDT, when the eye passed over barrier islands off Fort Myers and Punta Gorda, some 110 miles southeast of the Tampa Bay area.

Wayne Sallade, director of emergency management in Charlotte County, was angry that forecasters underestimated the intensity of the storm until shortly before landfall.

"They told us for years they don't forecast hurricane intensity well, and unfortunately we know that now," he said. "This magnitude storm was never predicted."

Florida Emergency Management Director Craig Fugate was adamant that local officials should have been prepared but acknowledged: "Hurricane forecasting is not a perfect science."

The president's declaration made federal money available to Charlotte, Lee, Manatee and Sarasota counties. "Our prayers are with you and your families tonight," Bush said from Seattle.

About 138,000 customers lost electricity in Lee County - including the emergency management center.

A crash on Interstate 75 in Sarasota County killed one person, and a wind gust caused a truck to collide with a car in Orange County, killing a young girl. A man who stepped outside his house to smoke a cigarette died when a banyan tree fell on him in Fort Myers, authorities said.

Anne Correia spent a harrowing two hours alone in a closet in her Punta Gorda apartment.

"I could hear the nails coming out of the roof," she said. "The walls were shaking violently, back and forth, back and forth. It was just the most amazing and terrifying thing. I just kept praying to God. I prayed with my whole heart."

Don Paterson of Punta Gorda rode out the hurricane in his trailer. It began to rock, a flying microwave oven hit him in the head, and then the refrigerator fell on him. He spent the rest of the storm hiding behind a lawnmower, as his home was demolished.

"Happy Friday the 13th," he said.

As an airplane hangar at the Charlotte County airport flew apart around him and his wife, "It sounded like a calypso band gone crazy," said Jim Morgan.

The eye of the hurricane passed directly over Punta Gorda, a city of 15,000. At the county airport, wind tore apart small planes, and one flew down the runway as if it were taking off. The storm spun a parked pickup truck 180 degrees, blew the windows out of a sheriff's deputy's car and ripped the roof off an 80- by 100-foot building.

At Charlotte Regional Medical Center in Punta Gorda, up to 50 people came in with storm injuries. The hospital was so badly damaged that patients were being transferred to other hospitals on Coast Guard helicopters.

"There's a lot of crush injuries," hospital CEO Josh Putter said. "Things have fallen on people, crushed their legs, crushed their pelvis - a lot of bleeding."

In Arcadia, 20 miles inland, one wall collapsed at a civic center serving as a shelter for 1,200 people. Only one person was hurt, and her injuries were minor.

The wall "started peeling back," said one evacuee, Alida Dejongh. "It lifted, and you could just see more and more light. You could hear this popping and zipping noise like a giant Ziploc bag."

On Sanibel Island and in Cape Coral, streets were flooded, trees uprooted and power lines down, but there were no reports of major damage. In Desoto County outside Arcadia, several dead cows, wrapped in barbed wire, littered the roadside.

On Fort Myers Beach, sea water swamped the barrier island. At least 20 people sought treatment at a hospital in Fort Myers.

"We're going under," said Lucy Hunter, a hotel operator. "When the ocean decides to meet my bay, that's a lot of water. It's already in my pool."

At 11 p.m. EDT, the center of the storm was about 10 miles southwest of Daytona Beach and moving north-northeast near 25 mph, with an increase expected. Maximum sustained winds were near 85 mph with higher gusts.

The center was expected to move into the Atlantic Ocean near Daytona Beach, then approach the South Carolina coast Saturday morning. A hurricane warning was in effect from Cocoa Beach to North Carolina.

About a million people in the Tampa Bay area had been told to leave their homes. Some drove east, only to find themselves in the path of the storm as it moved north.

"I feel like the biggest fool," said Robert Angel of Tarpon Springs, who sought safety in a Lakeland motel. "I spent hundreds of dollars to be in the center of a hurricane. Our home is safe, but now I'm in danger."

The storm forced the closing of Orlando theme parks Walt Disney World, Universal Orlando, SeaWorld and Animal Kingdom. The only previous time the parks closed for a hurricane was in 1999 for Floyd.

Charley was the strongest hurricane to hit Florida since the Category 5 Andrew hit south of Miami in 1992. Hurricane Mitch, which stalled over Honduras in 1998, also was Category 5 with sustained wind over 155 mph. Mitch killed some 10,000 people in Central America.

Charley was expected to slide along Georgia's coast on Saturday. Farther north, hurricane warnings and watches were raised along the South Carolina coast.

triplets · 14/08/2004 09:20

Hi,
So hope to hear from Kateand the girls, hardly slept thinking of everyone out there, anyone heard from Hulaby? Trying to find out if Anna Maria Island was hit, we are going there soon. Just pray that all our fellow mums out there are safe xxxxxxxxx

JanH · 14/08/2004 10:13

Well it pretty much missed Tampa (though they will have had heavy rain and strong winds even so) so Kate's family should be OK.

Orlando did cop it, but most proper buildings resist, it's the trailer parks etc that get the worst damage; Hula's and sunny's families (and everybody else of course) will have had a terrible evening and night but should also be OK, if stunned.

Florida houses can't have basements because of the risk of flooding so they can't shelter in there but I think they usually have at least one internal bathroom with no windows and at worst they can retreat to that.

New York Times:

TAMPA, Fla., Aug. 13 - A ferocious hurricane packing winds of 145 miles an hour ripped into Florida's west coast on Friday, leaving a half million people without power, flipping roofs off houses, blowing out hospital windows and peeling brick walls from their frames. A 15-foot storm surge followed in its wake.

Hurricane Charley, the most intense storm to hit Florida since Hurricane Andrew devastated South Florida in 1992 and the worst on the west coast of Florida in at least a century, prompted state and local officials to order the evacuation of nearly two million people all along the heavily populated coast.

The storm screamed through Charlotte Harbor, about 90 miles south of Tampa, and headed straight for Orlando, slightly weakened but still at hurricane strength. It spared the densely populated Tampa Bay area, full of modern high-rises and waterfront condos, which had expected to be hardest hit.

By early evening, Florida officials estimated the property damage to be $14.5 billion and attributed another $2.3 billion in losses to business interruptions. The officials estimated that 377,000 buildings were damaged. Officials in various counties said they had heard reports of injuries but the state emergency management office said it was still compiling figures. Before the storm hit Florida, three people were reported killed in Cuba.

Schools, universities, airports, SeaWorld and Disney World closed, the Kennedy Space Center sent employees home early, and passenger train service between Miami and New York was canceled. Tornado warnings were issued for south-central Florida, and the storm drenched ground already saturated by recent rains, increasing the risk of floods. At the request of Gov. Jeb Bush, President Bush declared the region a federal disaster area.

At one point Governor Bush said the damage could exceed $15 billion, but he became more optimistic after the hurricane missed the Tampa area. "There will be ramifications for this for many families in our state for months ahead," he said. "And we are going to be prepared to provide support."

As the storm advanced, traveling faster than 20 m.p.h., eastern Florida residents made preparations while those on the west coast were already assessing the damage.

Residents who lived in mobile homes or prefabricated homes and in low-lying areas were evacuated. In Orlando, three out of the five shelters in local schools were closed to newcomers because they were full, officials said.

On the Saffir-Simpson scale, used by meteorologists to denote hurricane strength, Hurricane Charley was rated a Category 4 when it made landfall. A Category 4 hurricane has sustained winds of 131 to 155 m.p.h.

As the storm hit La Costa Island, west of Fort Myers, about 3:45 p.m., sheets of rain wiped out any visibility and lawns turned into ponds, but the worst damage came from high winds. Waves tossed boats as if they were made of balsa wood, and small planes were flipped. The howling wind could be heard inside shelters where residents hunkered down, waiting for the worst to pass.

"It's something like you've never heard before," said Matt Rechkemmer, the 911 coordinator for Lee County, where Fort Myers is located. "It's a constant whining sound, it's sustained, to the point where it just doesn't even seem real. I've been in Lee County for 20 years and I've never heard winds and seen rain like that before."

Hurricane Charley sheared the roof from a shelter where 1,200 had sought safety. It stole the door from a nursing home in Port Charlotte, and Charlotte County's emergency operations center had to decamp to a jail. An overturned fire truck was another indication of the hurricane's might.

The center of the hurricane passed near Orlando around 10 p.m. with sustained winds of about 90 m.ph., according to the National Hurricane Center near Miami. At 11 p.m. the storm was near Daytona Beach and was expected to be near or over the South Carolina coast by morning. A hurricane warning was in effect from Cocoa Beach, Fla., to Oregon Inlet in North Carolina.

A state of emergency was declared in North Carolina and South Carolina as rainfall of 3 to 6 inches was expected along the storm's path.

The hurricane center forecast that Hurricane Charley would continue along the coast, weakening to a tropical storm with sustained winds of 39 to 73 m.p.h. by Saturday night. It could pass near New York City on Sunday, and by Sunday night, near Maine, the storm was expected to be a tropical depression, with winds below 39 m.p.h.

The Florida National Guard activated 5,000 troops, saying it expected the destruction to approach that of Hurricane Andrew, which caused $25 billion in damage and killed more than 60 people. The Guard deployed special teams trained in policing and security, as well as search and rescue and humanitarian aid.

During an early evening news conference, Governor Bush described the storm as devastating. "People on the east coast as well as central Florida need to take this storm very, very seriously," he said. "These winds will be Category 2 winds by the time they reach central Florida. Those are still powerful winds."

Hurricane Charley screamed across Cuba early Friday, ripping apart roofs, yanking up huge palm trees and killing three people. Throughout much of the morning it appeared to be heading straight for Tampa Bay. But then the storm turned abruptly to the east, sending people in Charlotte and Lee Counties scurrying into shelters.

The storm was the second to hit Florida in just over 24 hours. The first, Tropical Storm Bonnie, was less severe than expected, but spun off tornadoes Friday that killed three in North Carolina and injured more than two dozen.

Perhaps because of the memory of Hurricane Andrew in 1992, officials said, many of the 1.9 million residents who were urged to flee the coast heeded the call, filling area hotels and shelters. On Madeira Beach near St. Petersburg, plywood covering a business window was spray-painted with the words, "Sorry Charlie, We've Gone Home." Over all, officials said some 45,000 people took refuge in public shelters.

There were, of course, some holdouts. Carl and Betty Wieczorek live on Pass-a-Grille Beach near St. Petersburg, an island that was thought to have been wiped out in 1921 after the last bad storm, an unnamed Category 3 hurricane, hit Tampa Bay. It was a few days before boaters found it was still there.

But the Wieczoreks are newcomers to Florida, and said they did not have the money to go to a hotel and did not want to go to a shelter because their Doberman pinscher and parrot would not be allowed.

Most of all, the Wieczoreks said, they did not want to leave their uninsured collectibles. "We've got thousands of antiques that we haven't even unboxed yet," Mr. Wieczorek said. "I figure if the water comes in and we're here, we can at least lift things up to keep them from getting wet."

In Punta Gorda on Charlotte Harbor, Susan Evans decided not to leave her 1920's wood-frame house despite a mandatory evacuation in her area. "They told me I was required to leave, and when I told them I was staying, they asked me to name my next of kin," she said. "That really freaked me out."

After spending two hours of the storm in her bedroom closet, underneath a queen-size mattress, she said she would never make that mistake again.

"I felt like the house was lifting me," Ms. Evans said. "I didn't think anything could lift like that."

When she emerged to inspect the damage, she saw that two of her palm trees had been uprooted, and the second floor of the house across the street had been demolished.

At the nearby Temple Bar, Kevan Doyle, the owner, continued to serve beer throughout the storm, even after the second-floor roof collapsed and tankards and pitchers were set out to catch the leaks. By Friday evening, his only customers were storm chasers who had sought out Hurricane Charley with their video cameras.

Still, even places that did not feel the brunt of the storm remained on high alert. Tampa General Hospital canceled all elective surgeries, brought in extra staff and stopped accepting new patients, said John Dunn, a hospital spokesman.

"We were bracing for storm surge of 14 to 16 feet, so our collective blood pressure has dropped considerably," Mr. Dunn said. A storm surge is the difference between normal high tide and the storm tide.

In Pinellas County, horse owners evacuated their mounts to a county park on high ground. More than 50 horses waited out the storm, grazing around swing sets and picnic pavilions. Welch Agnew, assistant director of Pinellas County Animal Services, said animal specialists learned from Hurricane Andrew that stables can be more hazardous than helpful in a hurricane. "Most stables are less secure than a mobile home," he said. "In an open field, the horse will turn its rear to the storm, and ride it out."

In Arcadia, about 40 miles from the coast, residents emerged after the storm to watch a golden sunset. Arcadia is a small town with century-old oak trees, antique shops and ice cream parlors lining Oak Street downtown, and old-fashioned wood-framed homes. It feels historic in a state where most everything is new.

But Arcadia lost much of its history when the hurricane hit on Friday, clearing away trees, battering proud buildings so badly that their bricks spilled into the streets and shocking residents who thought living inland made them safe.

Robert Van Kempen, 68, weathered the storm in the 100-year-old Heritage Baptist Church. When the stained glass windows shattered, he and the others moved to a small concrete room in the back. "It was very scary. Once you go through this, you don't want to go through it again," Mr. Van Kempen said. "We were huddled together, we didn't know each other, but we were huddled together for dear life."

notthecod · 14/08/2004 12:53

sats in the times that tourists were ordered to leave so mybe she is home

hercules · 14/08/2004 13:31

Hula? Are you back yet? Oh god I hope you havent had to cut your hols short!

hercules · 14/08/2004 13:31

Is that you coddy?

hercules · 14/08/2004 13:32

Must be due to poor typing.

JanH · 14/08/2004 13:37

They couldn't leave Florida, not by air anyway!

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