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Best/worst city breaks

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Newmummy87123 · 27/01/2018 09:50

Saw a similar thread recently and wondered what are people's best/worst city break destinations?
I loved most of the typical places Paris, Rome, Venice and so on. However, I think a lot of people will disagree with me here I was very unimpressed with Amsterdam. Apart from some nice architecture and Anne Franks house. I just didn't see what everyone else sees. I'm not a prude the red light district didn't bother me. I fell asleep on the most boring river cruise ever. It just all seemed abit dull. I find it strange because I am not one not to enjoy places.
Is it just me?

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tracelab · 29/01/2018 09:41

I'm an Amsterdam blogger so I'm definitely biased but Amsterdam is amazing if you know where to go (which definitely isn't the red light district).

If you ever consider going ahead let me know and I'd love to help you put together a really fabulous itinerary. Incredibly good food, interesting things to see, lovely people, hidden corners to explore - I promise you, you'll never think it dull again.

Lots of ideas and inspo here:

www.amsterdamwonderland.com

witchofzog · 29/01/2018 09:44

I loved New York, Vilnius and Amsterdam (though it is too pricey imo)

I am going to Porto soon so am really happy someone on here has said they loved it. It does look really pretty

Trailedanderror · 29/01/2018 10:01

Marrakesh was a really revelation! So exotic and yet so near.
Love New York.
Paris, LA, Sydney are cities to live in rather than visit imo
Salzburg a bit dead, Munich is lovely, Florence gorgeous.

FeedtheTree · 29/01/2018 15:11

@tracelab - thanks for that. I want to take DC to Amsterdam soon and am looking for for some fun off-the-beaten-track places to go.

applecatchers36 · 29/01/2018 15:16

Loved Naples, Amsterdam, Lyon
Didn't love Atlantic City, New Jersey, Enidhoven

BriocheBriocheBrioche · 29/01/2018 15:40

AnnaMagnani what do I need to know about Tapas/Madrid?
I’m going next weekend with dh and another couple.

tracelab · 29/01/2018 16:58

@feedthetree Definitely take a look at the blog and message me via there if you're looking for some specific tips!

Laska5772 · 29/01/2018 17:08

I adored Florence! would go again in an instant..

also loved Copenhagen, Edinburgh, Dublin and Lisbon

However apart from Lisbon we went in the winter to these places .. perhaps they are less crowded then..

AnnaMagnani · 29/01/2018 17:14

Tapas - basically this is no place to be English! Even if the place is heaving full, there is still room for more people. Go in, and in the words of our guide 'Claim your real estate'. We would have been stood outside the door going 'Oh it looks too busy here'.

Everywhere has a specialty. Order that, if necessary by just pointing at what the person next to you is having. Don't expect anything else on the menu to be worth eating. However the specialty will be amazing.

The Spanish don't turn up till late. A restaurant may be deserted but still excellent - the Spanish just haven't arrived yet.

Beer comes as 'a cana' which is a small glass as you will be moving on. Food portions are totally confusing as raciones may be tiny portions, half portions, massive portions and vary from place to place. Just see what someone else has and copy. If the restaurant makes it's own vermouth, drink that (esp with anchovies) but be prepared to be absolutely shitfaced if you do that too often.

Our tour was with this guys and they were fantastic:

madridfoodtour.com

There's more info about what and where to eat here:

spanishsabores.com/2016/12/16/madrid-gastro-guide-where-to-eat-in-madrid/

KERALA1 · 29/01/2018 17:49

No bad experiences though my parents very under whelmed with Lisbon and we normally have similar taste so not gone there.

We loved Berlin - go when it's hot we went a May half term stacks of fab outdoor pools we swam in morning museums in afternoon.

Madrid fun too.

Don't get the Paris dislike either.

KERALA1 · 29/01/2018 17:49

Bordeaux is brilliant too.

bakingaddict · 29/01/2018 17:59

I loved most cities i've been to, top of the list are Vienna, Cologne, Venice, Budapest and Singapore. I sort of liked Bangkok even though I didn't expect to.

Was a bit meh about Barcelona, Frankfurt, Dublin, and Lille

Hated Paris and Johor Bharu in southern Malaysia as it's basically Croyden with tropical humidity. I've not actually been to Croyden so may be doing Croyden a huge disservice

LockedOutOfMN · 29/01/2018 19:01

BriocheBriocheBrioche Go to Txirimiri on Calle Ibiza (east of the Retiro park). All the tapas are great.

Also go to Mercado San Anton in Chueca (corner of C/Augusto Figueroa and C/Barbieri), go to the first floor and you can get a drink, a small tapa or more tapas o raciones to make a whole meal. There are all sorts of different stalls. On the rooftop is a nice bar, but it closes early. Also, on the first floor, the bar sells cheap and good raciones of all the classic Spanish dishes like pisto con huevo which you can buy and share between you.

Mercado San Miguel next to Plaza Mayor (off Calle Mayor) is a similar vibe but more touristy and expensive. I would go there only for the jamón Serrano as it's cut right in front of you and no more pricey than in other bars for the same - good - quality.

Mercado San Idelfonso is nice for a drink but expensive for eating. I like the little garden area at the back on the first floor. It's on Fuencarral just south of Tribunal metro station. Also if you do a nose around the stalls they do give you free samples.

For cheap and cheerful very filling tapas at their best, go to one of the El Tigre bars (on C/Las Infantas or the south end of Hortaleza, both in Chueca) and order a drink which will come with a huge plate of fried potato and typical tapas - bread with stuff on top.

El Buo taberna just off Plaza de Chueca (C/Gravina) is also good for raciones to share.

If you get sick of tapas, I strongly recommend the local chain of La Mucca restaurants (lamucca.es) which also serve great, inexpensive cocktails. The bread with tomato (pan con tomate / pan tumaca - with or without jamón ibérico on top) and the platter of Spanish cheeses and meats makes a superb sharing meal. There's one on C/Prado (off Plaza Santa Ana, in the direction of the Prado museum) and one just off Alonso Martínez (bottom of C/Almagro).

If you fancy a short metro ride out of the centre for a great Argentine steak, go to metro Concha Espina on the purple line (line 9) - just 5 mins. ride from Príncipe de Vergara metro station which is at the north east corner of the Retiro park - and to Bayres Beef on C/Pradillo. Delicious, authentic and inexpensive. Superb service and great Malbec too.

Also if you fancy pintxos (the fancy Basque version of tapas, basically), I recommend Orio on Fuencarral. Keep your cocktail sticks as that's how they calculate your bill. Try a glass of Txakoli which is a Basque white wine.

For a nice wine, go to the Vinoteca on the corner of Plaza Santa Ana next to the Teatro Español.

For a treat, check out celebrity chef Alberto Chicote's Asian / Spanish fusion restaurant, Yakitoro. Expensive for Madrid but delicious and not expensive in comparison to London. It's in Chueca.

Lastly, not a place to eat or drink but the Hammam al Andalus (Arab baths) are stunning and still in use as a spa. Book online as they're really popular. The baths are amazing, the massages are so-so, as they're just a cheap mini add on to the baths.

BEWARE OF PICKPOCKETS! I cannot say this enough. Never put down your bag - see how the locals keep them slung across their bodies or on their laps everywhere. Never put down your phone and take the time to put your purse, phone, etc. away properly in the zipped part of your bag rather than rushing and leaving it vulnerable to be stolen. Use a cross body bag and even consider one of those under clothes wallets for your most valuable items. Don't put anything in your pockets. Just be super vigilant all the time.

BriocheBriocheBrioche · 29/01/2018 23:09

Anna thanks for your advice. I’m not so English anymore after loving 7 years in France so i’ll get my elbows out and claim my space at the table!

LockedOut this is amazing. Thanks so much for all this information, will screen shot it all and look up all your suggestions.

The Asian/Spanish fusion sounds rights up our street and i’ll definitely check out the hamman as the men are going to bernabeu to catch a game.

Thanks again! Will report back in a couple of weeks.

LockedOutOfMN · 30/01/2018 22:29

BriocheBriocheBrioche Hammam Book in advance as it's popular. Discount Monday to Thursday.

Yakitoro Asian fusion on Calle Reyes in Chueca (just off Gran Vía at its east end). You don't need to book but do be prepared to wait for a table. You can also ask to eat in the small bar area at the front.
Round the corner, for a drink before or after dinner, the bar at the Only You hotel on Calle Barquillo is nice.

[http://oribugastrobar.com/en/home/ Oribú]] is another good luxury restaurant with Asian Spanish fusion food, also on C/Barquillo, very close to Yakitoro and the Only You hotel.

Enjoy! But expect it to be freezing cold at night.

R00tat00tt00t · 30/01/2018 23:41

Love: Edinburgh, London, Paris, New York, Florence, Barcelona, Fes, Munich.

Like: Antwerp, Bruges, Bergen, Marrakesh, Madrid.

Underwhelmed by: Dublin, Brussels, Pisa, Nice.

Still to visit: Copenhagen, Stockholm, Rome, Venice, Granada, Seville, Lisbon, Dubrovnik.....

implantsandaDyson · 31/01/2018 12:23

I absolutely loved Krakow - like really loved it, have bored everyone silly about it type of love Blush.
I've never really been disappointed by a break, I suppose whilst I liked New York (have been twice), I wouldn't rush back.

Hersetta427 · 31/01/2018 16:52

Loved

Salzburg
Iceland
Berlin
NY

Taffeta · 31/01/2018 17:32

Favourites:

London
Lisbon
Barcelona
Valencia
Rome
Venice
Edinburgh
Boston
Cairo
St Petersburg
Tallinn
Copenhagen
Stockholm
Sydney
Miami
Hong Kong

Less impressed:
Dublin
Istanbul
Lille
Madrid
Riga
Helsinki
Brisbane
Los Angeles
Singapore
Bangkok
Prague

Would like not to go again:
Paris
New York

Branleuse · 31/01/2018 20:17

I totally loved Krakow too

rookiemere · 31/01/2018 20:50

Loved: Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Rome, Barcelona, Milan, Vienna, Brussels, Vancouver

Underwhelmed by:
Venice - nice to see but too expensive
Paris
Milan - didnt seem to be that much to do
Boston, New York, San Francisco - just not a big city fan

Sometimes I think how much you enjoy a city depends a lot on the circumstances of your visit and also the weather.

juneau · 01/02/2018 19:56

Yeah, I agree with most of Taffeta's list - the ones I've been to. We go back to Paris again and again, live near London and never get bored of it, love most Italian and Spanish cities, although Florence is ruined by tourism IMO for 9 months of the year, and Madrid is strangely soulless (but has amazing art museums). I like Amsterdam, but agree that the red light district is depressing and I hate crowds - the museums are wonderful though and the 9 straats area is really charming. Bilbao was a recent favourite of ours - really interesting and different and not too touristy - but with loads of local interest and great food. New York was my home for six years and while I love it, it has a bloody awful climate and I find it dirty and rough around the edges, but it has amazing restaurants, shops and museums. Prague wasn't as fun as I was expecting - a weekend was plenty. Athens has amazing sights for a couple of days (but the city itself isn't that nice). Istanbul is amazing - tons to see - but the creepy men were vile. Dublin was grotty - I just remember litter blowing about O'Connell Street and how tacky Temple Bar was. Savannah is lovely. Chicago is great fun. San Francisco is weird - can't decide if I like it or not, but love Seattle and Portland.

AnnaMagnani · 02/02/2018 17:32

Madrid being souless - it may have helped that I accidently went there during the festival of San Isidro and was staying across the road from where the procession of San Isidro happens.

This was pure chance - dates of my conference - but meant we got to see all the San Isidro events and Madrid had it's best party hat on.

Similarly DH managed to go to Valencia during Las Fallas and thought that was amazing but isn't sure about Valencia.

notacooldad · 02/02/2018 20:48

Love and would go on the next plane if I could to
Oslo
Copenhagen
Gothenberg
Geneva
Zurich
Detroit
Berlin. ❤️
Tallinn
Brussels
Glasgow and Edinburgh

I wasn't keen on Bratislava but to be fair I don't think I gave it a fair chance.
Villinus was ok
I dont like Dublin at all
Warsaw is ok for a day or so but then it's time to move on to much nicer places.

notacooldad · 02/02/2018 20:50

I meant to add I love Seville but I don't like Gibraltar.

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