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Students halls first year. Any tops tips please?

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WhiteRosesAndCandles · 10/03/2025 13:50

DC is off to university next year.

Applying for halls of residence feels like a minefield.

One has stated rent will not be payable if they can prove the didn't get the grades or the offer Is refused by the uni. No other circumstances. Reviews look ok, this concerns me.

I can think of other circumstances.
DC will decide where they want to go after their A level results in August.

For anyone that has navigated this, do you have any top tips to share please?

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RedSkyDelights · 10/03/2025 13:54

You can generally only choose accommodation at your firm choice university.

The expectation is that you will take up that offer unless not making grades or offer withdrawn. If your DC thinks they might not take it up for another reason, then they should probably hold off choosing (or pick a university that doesn't allocate accommodation until A Level results day).

pengwing · 10/03/2025 14:02

Your dd can't decide where she wants to go in august though. You choose one firm and one insurance choice.

If on the day she gets the grades and accepted by the firm, the insurance choice disappears.

WombatChocolate · 10/03/2025 15:03

Op, are you looking at privately owned halls or uni owned accom?

Uni owned won’t usually ask for payment now or any financial commitment if grades not achieved (and uni will know this).

Student generally register interest in uni accom after firming and insuring. Firmibg creates a contract to go to that uni. Most places won’t allocate actual accom until after results when they know who is actually coming.

Is your DC looking at standard unis with uni owned accommodation or something a bit different. Why do they think they will be making choices after results?

WombatChocolate · 10/03/2025 15:07

Op, are you saying your DC might turn down firm on results day and choose to go through Clearing to somewhere else?

If so, if they have signed up for specific accommodation at firm place - esp if privately owned - they may well be contracted to pay.

Only sign up for accommodation which commits you if you def want to go there.

Most places with uni owned accom won’t actually allocate or ask for money until post results. At this stage it’s just expressions of interest and meeting deadlines to ensure some form of allocation is given - to meet the uni accom guarantee.

Ceramiq · 10/03/2025 15:11

You apply for halls of residence at the university which you have Firmed on UCAS. Each university has its own accommodation offer and allocation system so yes, it's a whole new algorithm to get to grips with and there is definitely luck involved.

Ceramiq · 10/03/2025 15:12

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 10/03/2025 13:50

DC is off to university next year.

Applying for halls of residence feels like a minefield.

One has stated rent will not be payable if they can prove the didn't get the grades or the offer Is refused by the uni. No other circumstances. Reviews look ok, this concerns me.

I can think of other circumstances.
DC will decide where they want to go after their A level results in August.

For anyone that has navigated this, do you have any top tips to share please?

Is your DD applying to university in other countries?

bellinisurge · 10/03/2025 15:16

Silly question but is there a first come first served element to it. My DD is taking a gap year and won't be applying for halls until next year to start sept 2026

RedSkyDelights · 10/03/2025 15:23

bellinisurge · 10/03/2025 15:16

Silly question but is there a first come first served element to it. My DD is taking a gap year and won't be applying for halls until next year to start sept 2026

Depends on the university.

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 10/03/2025 15:36

There have three offers for three different universities in the city they want to live. There are two courses/ universities they really want. They have a firm, unconditional offer for their third choice.

They are on a reserve list for their absolute favourite uni. They have privately owned university halls. If they don't get accepted or the results they need, halls will give a refund for the deposit. This is the contract I'm worried about.

They are waiting to hear about their second choice. They have only just had an interview. They offer university halls with a minimal deposit.

It all feels up in the air until their actual results are in. DC could end up in clearing in a completely different city.

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Ceramiq · 10/03/2025 15:40

It's hard to understand what you are worried about. The system works (just about) and you don't get landed for hall fees for accommodation unless you take up your place.

RedSkyDelights · 10/03/2025 15:44

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 10/03/2025 15:36

There have three offers for three different universities in the city they want to live. There are two courses/ universities they really want. They have a firm, unconditional offer for their third choice.

They are on a reserve list for their absolute favourite uni. They have privately owned university halls. If they don't get accepted or the results they need, halls will give a refund for the deposit. This is the contract I'm worried about.

They are waiting to hear about their second choice. They have only just had an interview. They offer university halls with a minimal deposit.

It all feels up in the air until their actual results are in. DC could end up in clearing in a completely different city.

Is the favourite an International or private university?

Otherwise you have to apply through UCAS and you have to pick a firm choice ahead of A Level results (it's a date in June, I think). Your DC should make accommodation choices at the same time he is choosing his firm choice.

WombatChocolate · 10/03/2025 15:58

Don’t sign up for accommodation now. Sometimes private providers pressure students.

Wait until all offers are in.

Assuming applications are via ucas, when they firm and insure, other places they apply are declined and no longer available to them.

Your mention of waiting lists and unconditional offers whilst still doing exams and waiting for results, suggests they are either doing or applying for non-standard courses and perhaps not via ucas.

Can you elaborate on what DC is applying for and what qualifications they have or are doing? This sounds like a non-standard application and that impacts advice about accom.

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 10/03/2025 21:23

The applications are through UCAS for a university in a big city.

My concern is, that I will be charged for a full year of accomodation that will not be used AND have to pay for another. There are two ways out of the contract. Lower grades and the university withdrawing the place.

Changing your mind and accepting another course is not one of them. Neither is getting ill, or deciding not to go for any other reason. Only for grades or the uni pulls the place. They are on a reserve list, this is not a firm offer. I've got no idea how that works.

Thanks everyone.

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PersonaPersona · 10/03/2025 23:19

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 10/03/2025 21:23

The applications are through UCAS for a university in a big city.

My concern is, that I will be charged for a full year of accomodation that will not be used AND have to pay for another. There are two ways out of the contract. Lower grades and the university withdrawing the place.

Changing your mind and accepting another course is not one of them. Neither is getting ill, or deciding not to go for any other reason. Only for grades or the uni pulls the place. They are on a reserve list, this is not a firm offer. I've got no idea how that works.

Thanks everyone.

are you anticipating an incapacitating illness? or a massive change of mind?

Halfemptyhalfling · 10/03/2025 23:23

Unless you are happy to pay for expensive accommodation don't put it down as a low preference.

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 10/03/2025 23:58

@PersonaPersona I don't know there will be a massive change of heart. I hope they get their top two choices.

So much can happen, how can choices be made until they get their results? I don't want to be stuck in a contract paying ££££.

There is a stark difference in communication and flexibility between university halls and private halls.

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clary · 11/03/2025 00:11

I'm a bit puzzled by this tbh.

How is your DC on a reserve list for a university place? Have they had an offer or not? I don’t think I have heard of reserve lists. They should know yes or no on an offer in the next few weeks (tho technically unis have till mid-May). Then you will know if it is feasible (are the offer grades close to their mocks/PGs?) and can make that their firm choice.

Some unis offer the chance to choose accomm for the firm choice before exam results, others wait until you know you have a place; it varies. But I have never heard of anyone paying any money out in advance of actually accepting the place.

CarpetKnees · 11/03/2025 00:31

Another who is a bit confused.

Universities make an offer, or don't make an offer.
The student then choose which of the offered places they would like to go to.
They then 'firm' this offer.
Most Universities then let you choose the accommodation you would like (different systems as to how specific this will be) but no money usually changes hands until your place is confirmed on results day. Private accommodation works more like any contract in that they are more likely to make you pay a deposit and they are reasonable to expect that, having signed that contract, you will honour it, with the caveat they know you will only take it up if you get a place.

On results day - if the grades are good enough, it is confirmed you have a place at the place you chose.
If not (as you've stated) you aren't locked in to the accommodation.

I'm not sure why you think you would be paying for 2 sets of accommodation.

clary · 11/03/2025 00:39

DC will decide where they want to go after their A level results in August

This is odd from your OP. It’s not how it works – if they are going through UCAS that is. They need to choose a firm offer and possibly an insurance in advance of their A level results – by 4 June in fact, tho most candidates will do it in advance of that, so they have some element of certainty (grades dependent) as they go into their A level exam period.

They don't get their A level results while holding a clutch of offers and then choose between them. This is assuming you are in the UK and applying in the UK tho.

KittenPause · 11/03/2025 01:34

Just don't put down a deposit yet for accommodation

Your DC will put down a firm and an insurance

You'll just have wait to see what the results are before committing to private halls

If it's normal uni halls you'll have sent a preference list as requested for the firm and insurance although some insurance don't allow that or guarantee halls

RedSkyDelights · 11/03/2025 07:38

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 10/03/2025 23:58

@PersonaPersona I don't know there will be a massive change of heart. I hope they get their top two choices.

So much can happen, how can choices be made until they get their results? I don't want to be stuck in a contract paying ££££.

There is a stark difference in communication and flexibility between university halls and private halls.

If you think your child might realistically change their mind, then don't commit until A Level results day. It may mean (depending on university) that you have less choice of accommodation, but that's a decision for you to make.

I'm not sure from your last sentence whether you are looking at private or university rental, but if private you can find someone else to take your place (there will be people looking) and if university, they are likely (in practice) to be more flexible.

The vast majority of students who get an offer at their firm choice, accept that offer if they meet the grades. That's why the clause is in the contract.

Ceramiq · 11/03/2025 07:58

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 10/03/2025 23:58

@PersonaPersona I don't know there will be a massive change of heart. I hope they get their top two choices.

So much can happen, how can choices be made until they get their results? I don't want to be stuck in a contract paying ££££.

There is a stark difference in communication and flexibility between university halls and private halls.

You seem not to have understood the UCAS system, nor the specificities of applying for accommodation at each university (there aren't general rules so asking on MN has limited use unless posters know the university well. And even then, universities change their accommodation guarantees year on year). Don't overthink it. Your DC must Firm one university course and Insure another and must then apply for accommodation ASAP at the Firm university. On A-level results day your DC will automatically get a place at the Firm university if they fulfil the requirements of the offer. If they don't get a place at the Firm university they will automatically get a place at the Insured university and will only then be able to apply for accommodation there (probably with no guarantee but London has lots of accommodation).

MarchingFrogs · 11/03/2025 08:19

@WhiteRosesAndCandles If your DD has applied for university places through UCAS, then if either or both of you has got to this stage in the process without a basic understanding of how it all works, it would be a good idea for you both to sit down and go through the whole of the Undergraduate section of the UCAS website (and for you, if not both of you, to go through the guidance for parents).

And for both of you to read through the section on the websites of the universities which your DD has as genuine contenders for Firm / Insurance (that is, the ones which have already made an offer, or from which she is still awaiting a decision) which deals with that specific university's process for applying for accommodation. Whereas the UCAS process is set, how accommodation is applied for is up to the individual university to determine.

LincolnLegends · 11/03/2025 08:34

Can you just tell us what the city this is because this isn't making any sense.

Unless you are looking at private halls of residence instead of the ones used by universities to house their first years.

Both my children went into private halls of residence for their second years and beyond and what you are describing as a deposit scheme and the whole if you don't get the grades sounds like private halls of residence. University halls of residence don't take a deposit.

Lots of international students choose private halls of residence for the guarantee of a particular type of room ie en-suite as opposed to being allocated a room in university halls of residence which could mean a shared bathroom.

If you tell us which universities there should be some posters who can guide you on specific halls. If you are worried about identifying details you can name change for that post and change back to your usual one.

pengwing · 11/03/2025 12:48

@WhiteRosesAndCandles is your dc doing a music / drama based degree? They are the only ones I can think of that have reserve lists.

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